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Re: M141: the coalition (the coalition phase)
« Reply #25 on: August 26, 2024, 02:49:43 pm »

If we randomly chose a group of five people, like using random.org, which might not be allowed but that's beside the point, we'd expect to win the game one time in six, if I've done the math right. Which it's entirely possible I haven't.
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Re: M141: the coalition (the coalition phase)
« Reply #26 on: August 26, 2024, 02:57:41 pm »

If we randomly chose a group of five people, like using random.org, which might not be allowed but that's beside the point, we'd expect to win the game one time in six, if I've done the math right. Which it's entirely possible I haven't.

That might be better odds than if we actually try, no joke. I feel like town here at f.ds does worse than expected in setups with very few PRs, or situations where you at least get named townies.
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Re: M141: the coalition (the coalition phase)
« Reply #27 on: August 26, 2024, 02:58:33 pm »

Do you have to vote for the same five people IN THE SAME ORDER to successfully get a coalition?
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Re: M141: the coalition (the coalition phase)
« Reply #28 on: August 26, 2024, 03:01:26 pm »

Hello! I haven't played much Mafia on this site, but have already gained a reputation for being an absolutely terrible mafioso. With that in mind, I suggest you vote for me as part of the central coalition, on the grounds that if I do turn out to be scum, I will be easily spotted and disposed of.
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Re: M141: the coalition (the coalition phase)
« Reply #29 on: August 26, 2024, 03:37:35 pm »

Can you vote for yourself for the coalition? And if so, isn't that something we're all going to do...
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Re: M141: the coalition (the coalition phase)
« Reply #30 on: August 26, 2024, 03:38:44 pm »

Do you have to vote for the same five people IN THE SAME ORDER to successfully get a coalition?
no.
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Re: M141: the coalition (the coalition phase)
« Reply #31 on: August 26, 2024, 03:39:18 pm »

Can you vote for yourself for the coalition?
yes.
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Re: M141: the coalition (the coalition phase)
« Reply #32 on: August 26, 2024, 03:45:10 pm »

Hello everyone! I'm actually playing the game, wheeeeeeeeee!

The coalition's a very strong mechanic, it basically just lets us win immediately if we guess correctly, and otherwise we immediately know we were wrong and can start thinking differently. That's how I've looked at it, at least.

If we randomly chose a group of five people, like using random.org, which might not be allowed but that's beside the point, we'd expect to win the game one time in six, if I've done the math right. Which it's entirely possible I haven't.

This is not a bad plan but we have 9 days to get a better plan :P Good backup though.
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Re: M141: the coalition (the coalition phase)
« Reply #33 on: August 26, 2024, 03:46:29 pm »

Can you vote for yourself for the coalition?
yes.


Uh, okay... add: Robz888
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Re: M141: the coalition (the coalition phase)
« Reply #34 on: August 26, 2024, 03:49:27 pm »

it looks like i didn't include this in the ruleset for this game but i generally prohibit "provable randomness" such as the forum's dice tag. but randomization from some other source which is reported (without screencap or other proof like that) in this thread is fine
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Re: M141: the coalition (the coalition phase)
« Reply #35 on: August 26, 2024, 04:10:28 pm »

Obviously add: Cuzz out of the gate here.

Anyone who didn’t do this is obvscum imo.

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Re: M141: the coalition (the coalition phase)
« Reply #36 on: August 26, 2024, 04:11:43 pm »

Can you vote for yourself for the coalition? And if so, isn't that something we're all going to do...

Of course. But you also have to vote for 4 other people.
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Re: M141: the coalition (the coalition phase)
« Reply #37 on: August 26, 2024, 04:14:28 pm »

If we randomly chose a group of five people, like using random.org, which might not be allowed but that's beside the point, we'd expect to win the game one time in six, if I've done the math right. Which it's entirely possible I haven't.

I dislike this plan.

subtract: joth
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Re: M141: the coalition (the coalition phase)
« Reply #38 on: August 26, 2024, 04:19:08 pm »

Obviously add: Cuzz out of the gate here.

Anyone who didn’t do this is obvscum imo.



There's no point in adding people until you have 5...
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Re: M141: the coalition (the coalition phase)
« Reply #39 on: August 26, 2024, 04:22:41 pm »

Obviously add: Cuzz out of the gate here.

Anyone who didn’t do this is obvscum imo.



There's no point in adding people until you have 5...

The list doesn’t count toward the vote count until you have 5, but surely you can add to it one at a time, no?
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Re: M141: the coalition (the coalition phase)
« Reply #40 on: August 26, 2024, 04:30:38 pm »

It seems like it’d be hard to produce a lot of informative discussion if no one is allowed to commit to any member of their coalition list until they’ve chosen all 5.
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Re: M141: the coalition (the coalition phase)
« Reply #41 on: August 26, 2024, 04:31:55 pm »

schadd do we have to select all 5 members of our list in a single post?
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Re: M141: the coalition (the coalition phase)
« Reply #42 on: August 26, 2024, 04:53:16 pm »

adding one at a time is fine.
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Re: M141: the coalition (the coalition phase)
« Reply #43 on: August 26, 2024, 05:14:31 pm »

Obviously add: Cuzz out of the gate here.

Anyone who didn’t do this is obvscum imo.

Wouldn't scum obviously want to do it too? I don't see a reason why anyone would prefer to not be in the coalition, regardless of alignment.

Add: Awaclus
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Re: M141: the coalition (the coalition phase)
« Reply #44 on: August 26, 2024, 05:23:30 pm »

Obviously add: Cuzz out of the gate here.

Anyone who didn’t do this is obvscum imo.

Wouldn't scum obviously want to do it too? I don't see a reason why anyone would prefer to not be in the coalition, regardless of alignment.

Add: Awaclus

Yes I was being slightly facetious.

Otoh posting but not adding one’s self does maybe indicate excessive caution.

(Or just a completely understandable confusion about the mechanic that is in no way indicative of alignment.)
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Re: M141: the coalition (the coalition phase)
« Reply #45 on: August 26, 2024, 05:24:56 pm »

But yes all brave and virtuous folks should yearn to serve their town by joining the coalition.

Add Cuzz, folks, he’ll fight for you.
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Re: M141: the coalition (the coalition phase)
« Reply #46 on: August 26, 2024, 05:29:29 pm »

Is there a shortcut for abandoning your current coalition list to start a new one from scratch? Seems like that could come in handy if you're in a hurry to lock in a coalition, you need to remove people from your current list and you've lost track of who's on it (which is admittedly a lot of conditionals but each of them sounds pretty likely to happen individually).
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Re: M141: the coalition (the coalition phase)
« Reply #47 on: August 26, 2024, 05:56:08 pm »

Hi all!

I mean I think the most important thing is we have to agree to a coalition by the end, since not having one, we get no info. So I'd say we shold relativley quickly (within next few days) pick a something (random is fine) and agree to go with that if we don't get anything better.

For now:

Add: scolapasta
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Re: M141: the coalition (the coalition phase)
« Reply #48 on: August 26, 2024, 05:57:41 pm »

sure, you can say "remove: everybody"
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Re: M141: the coalition (the coalition phase)
« Reply #49 on: August 26, 2024, 05:57:58 pm »

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