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Re: M140 - Gladiator Bomb Mafia
« Reply #2350 on: August 24, 2024, 03:01:58 pm »

um.... I did nothing.

I tried a gambit, and failed. I had made up the part of my RP recycling (and it almost bit me, when it was suggested that was overpowered).

My hope was that I would be the NK last night in order to save any actual PR. Of course, then the NK was VT swowl, so we did get the result I wanted (assuming one of Didds / Jimmmm is town).
Never lie as town. Seriously.

What's the reasoning to not? I know it can be risky - i.e. getting caught in it, but other than that.

I mean in this case, it backfired on me since they didn't target any PR and now I'm an admitted liar on this. But if it had worked, it would have saved a PR. wasn't that worth the risk?
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« Reply #2351 on: August 24, 2024, 03:02:23 pm »

um.... I did nothing.

I tried a gambit, and failed. I had made up the part of my RP recycling (and it almost bit me, when it was suggested that was overpowered).

My hope was that I would be the NK last night in order to save any actual PR. Of course, then the NK was VT swowl, so we did get the result I wanted (assuming one of Didds / Jimmmm is town).
Never lie as town. Seriously.

What's the reasoning to not? I know it can be risky - i.e. getting caught in it, but other than that.

I mean in this case, it backfired on me since they didn't target any PR and now I'm an admitted liar on this. But if it had worked, it would have saved a PR. wasn't that worth the risk?
No.
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Re: M140 - Gladiator Bomb Mafia
« Reply #2352 on: August 24, 2024, 03:03:27 pm »

Didds, can I get a reasoning for why you would target Jimmmmm?
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Re: M140 - Gladiator Bomb Mafia
« Reply #2353 on: August 24, 2024, 03:03:50 pm »

Good gravy, Scola. No wonder you act like you’re caught in a lie. You keep lying! Why should we believe you now?

Now this is not the case - I have not acted like caught in a lie. I also do not "keep" lying. This was the one (I get it why would you beleive me, but that'd be the case with anything we say in this game unless we're confirmed IC).

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« Reply #2354 on: August 24, 2024, 03:05:46 pm »

I tried a gambit, and failed. I had made up the part of my RP recycling (and it almost bit me, when it was suggested that was overpowered).
Can you make more clear what exactly happened?

If it wasn't clear, my RP was jost the three one shots. I used them all as previously claimed, so for last might was effectively a VT. Hoping to get scum to NK me (thinking I still had useful powers) when I had just become a VT.
And who exactly were you hoping to protect with this?
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« Reply #2355 on: August 24, 2024, 03:08:12 pm »

either Didds or Jimmm, whoever is town. (while there is still a chance they are both scum, I don't know seems unlikely tha the only tracker would be my 1 shot, given cuzz's role.
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« Reply #2356 on: August 24, 2024, 03:14:21 pm »

either Didds or Jimmm, whoever is town. (while there is still a chance they are both scum, I don't know seems unlikely tha the only tracker would be my 1 shot, given cuzz's role.
Why did you think it was better if you were dead today compared to one of them?
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Re: M140 - Gladiator Bomb Mafia
« Reply #2357 on: August 24, 2024, 03:28:49 pm »

I mean isn't that clear? I'm now a VT.
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« Reply #2358 on: August 24, 2024, 03:39:03 pm »

I mean isn't that clear? I'm now a VT.
Investigative roles just don't seem all that helpful at exlo. Any result could be a framing. I wanted to know why you thought that was worth keeping up a lie over.
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« Reply #2359 on: August 24, 2024, 04:09:25 pm »

Well, I claimed the recycling before I knew what the other PRs were.

But also, it's still more info (whether true or not) than a VT gives us. And it was only for one day yesterday, I didn't actually see there being much harm, and I thought I'd be dead at this point.

i.e. right now we have Didds saying Jimmmmm targeted swowl.

So case 1: didds telling truth, Jimmmm scum.
Case 2: diddis lying, didds scum.
Case 3: scum has some other power, redirect, blah, blah, blah. Seems unlikely at this point, due to cuzz's role.

I'm assuming 2 more scum, that they are both mafia goons, and not PRs. (of course if for some reason only 1 scum, then definitely a goon).

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Re: M140 - Gladiator Bomb Mafia
« Reply #2360 on: August 24, 2024, 04:13:22 pm »

Other observations:

From my POV, cuzz only voted town n D1,D2,D3. Does that make it more likely that cuzz voted town!EFHW? Or would this have been cuzz's first bussing?

I'm also trying to figure out if cuzz opining so much about there being 1 bomb was truthful or if there are 2 bombs.

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Re: M140 - Gladiator Bomb Mafia
« Reply #2361 on: August 24, 2024, 04:13:42 pm »

Well, I claimed the recycling before I knew what the other PRs were.
This is true, but you kept up the lie even after you knew all the claims.
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« Reply #2362 on: August 24, 2024, 04:14:37 pm »

Didds, can I get a reasoning for why you would target Jimmmmm?

My thinking was that one or both Scola or Jimmmm would be a baddie. After the way the vote went down, jimmm was my best guess. I also thought after the cuzz vote, Jimmm wasn’t looking good.   So, my thought was that if his partner was the other was one of the bombs, they’d have him do the action since he probably wasn’t going to pull off escaping suspicion today anyway. If his partner was Scola, then i think they’d have had a similar discussion about who should do it. Which is why I don’t think my result surprised anyone. Because I either got him or I was going to have been blocked.

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Re: M140 - Gladiator Bomb Mafia
« Reply #2363 on: August 24, 2024, 04:17:20 pm »

Well, I claimed the recycling before I knew what the other PRs were.

But also, it's still more info (whether true or not) than a VT gives us. And it was only for one day yesterday, I didn't actually see there being much harm, and I thought I'd be dead at this point.

i.e. right now we have Didds saying Jimmmmm targeted swowl.

So case 1: didds telling truth, Jimmmm scum.
Case 2: diddis lying, didds scum.
Case 3: scum has some other power, redirect, blah, blah, blah. Seems unlikely at this point, due to cuzz's role.

I'm assuming 2 more scum, that they are both mafia goons, and not PRs. (of course if for some reason only 1 scum, then definitely a goon).

I pushed Cuzz all day yesterday. There’s no way I do that if he was my partner and potentially the most powerful one
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Re: M140 - Gladiator Bomb Mafia
« Reply #2364 on: August 24, 2024, 04:17:29 pm »

Well, I claimed the recycling before I knew what the other PRs were.
This is true, but you kept up the lie even after you knew all the claims.

Sure, but:
a) revealing the lie at that point seemed more risky.
b) I truly thought I'd be dead by now
c) if scum!didds tracked me and said something then I would've caught her
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« Reply #2365 on: August 24, 2024, 04:21:23 pm »

Well, I claimed the recycling before I knew what the other PRs were.

But also, it's still more info (whether true or not) than a VT gives us. And it was only for one day yesterday, I didn't actually see there being much harm, and I thought I'd be dead at this point.

i.e. right now we have Didds saying Jimmmmm targeted swowl.

So case 1: didds telling truth, Jimmmm scum.
Case 2: diddis lying, didds scum.
Case 3: scum has some other power, redirect, blah, blah, blah. Seems unlikely at this point, due to cuzz's role.

I'm assuming 2 more scum, that they are both mafia goons, and not PRs. (of course if for some reason only 1 scum, then definitely a goon).

I pushed Cuzz all day yesterday. There’s no way I do that if he was my partner and potentially the most powerful one

I'll admit this is a good point. Sinced I'm lazy, can you point me to some of those posts?

Didds if there is only 1 bomb (from your PoV I could still be scum) which one do you think is good and which do you think is bad?
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« Reply #2366 on: August 24, 2024, 04:29:42 pm »

Didds, can I get a reasoning for why you would target Jimmmmm?

My thinking was that one or both Scola or Jimmmm would be a baddie. After the way the vote went down, jimmm was my best guess. I also thought after the cuzz vote, Jimmm wasn’t looking good.   So, my thought was that if his partner was the other was one of the bombs, they’d have him do the action since he probably wasn’t going to pull off escaping suspicion today anyway. If his partner was Scola, then i think they’d have had a similar discussion about who should do it. Which is why I don’t think my result surprised anyone. Because I either got him or I was going to have been blocked.

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You were aware that if Jimmmm was town he would be trying to target the nightkill?
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« Reply #2367 on: August 24, 2024, 04:30:42 pm »

I pushed Cuzz all day yesterday.
Can you present some examples of you pushing Cuzz?
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« Reply #2368 on: August 24, 2024, 04:32:17 pm »

Also, Didds, extra question!

Your first three targets were all townreads that you were trying to confirm. You last target was a scumread. What changed?
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« Reply #2369 on: August 24, 2024, 04:37:19 pm »

Also, Didds, extra question!

Your first three targets were all townreads that you were trying to confirm. You last target was a scumread. What changed?

We’ve narrowed it down such that I thought I could catch scum.
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« Reply #2370 on: August 24, 2024, 04:42:36 pm »

Didds, can I get a reasoning for why you would target Jimmmmm?

My thinking was that one or both Scola or Jimmmm would be a baddie. After the way the vote went down, jimmm was my best guess. I also thought after the cuzz vote, Jimmm wasn’t looking good.   So, my thought was that if his partner was the other was one of the bombs, they’d have him do the action since he probably wasn’t going to pull off escaping suspicion today anyway. If his partner was Scola, then i think they’d have had a similar discussion about who should do it. Which is why I don’t think my result surprised anyone. Because I either got him or I was going to have been blocked.

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You were aware that if Jimmmm was town he would be trying to target the nightkill?

I hadn’t thought that fully through. But I figured there was a low probability I’d Liebe alive today. To me mind, it was me or Swowl

I don’t have any idea, though, why Jimmm would have watched me.
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« Reply #2371 on: August 24, 2024, 04:43:03 pm »

I pushed Cuzz all day yesterday.
Can you present some examples of you pushing Cuzz?

Sure, let me grab my computer. Hang on for a few
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« Reply #2372 on: August 24, 2024, 04:45:33 pm »

I'll ask one more question for now, and I am well aware that this may take some time to answer.

You seem confident that you found scum in Jimmmm. Who is the third member of a Cuzz/Jimmmmm/X scumteam?
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« Reply #2373 on: August 24, 2024, 04:47:58 pm »

Youv'e basically asked both the same questions I did. (since from my POV, I'm town, leaving you/efhw as the third)
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« Reply #2374 on: August 24, 2024, 04:59:17 pm »

I'll ask one more question for now, and I am well aware that this may take some time to answer.

You seem confident that you found scum in Jimmmm. Who is the third member of a Cuzz/Jimmmmm/X scumteam?

That is what I have not figured out. Once upon a time, I'd have said Efang. But Swowl seemed to think her bomb claim was legit. If there are two bombs, then the other two baddies are scola and jimm, I think maybe that is balance? 2 bombs, tracker, and doctor? I doubt that there will be any evidence to implicate any of you, Efhw, and Scola are all pro at being scum, so it will all be the feels. Which is all kinds of uncomfortable. I thought that would be the point of today. Otherwise, I'd vote for Jimmm and peace out for the weekend.
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