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[Swowl]

Well it’s moot now. By moving to fang scola has made shraeye nonviable, I think.

I'm not on fang.

My preference would still be shraeye, then robz, then fang third.

but you are on robz.....

because it didn't seem like shraeye was happening...

It was a 1 off difference!!!

[Swowl]

welp I think we are twilight anyways at this point.

[MiX]

Thread Locked!

[MiX]

Vote Count 1.Final

Robz888 (6): Awaclus, joth, scolapasta, infangthief, Didds, Cuzz
shraeye (3): Swowl, Jimmmmm, Robz888
scolapasta (1): faust
mcmcsalot (1): shraeye
infangthief (1): mcmcsalot
Not Voting (0):

[MiX]

(...)

Wirt - Here we are adrift on an aimless steamboat, unsure of both destination and purpose…

Greg - Wirt!

Wirt - Our past decisions becoming a tangible web of our failures and happenstance…

Greg - Wirt!

Wirt - Our only guides are the frogs that pilot this vessel, and the steady current of the river…

Greg - Wirt!

Wirt - What is it Greg?

Greg - DID YOU KNOW THERE ARE MORE PLANES IN THE OCEAN THAN BOATS IN THE SKY?

Wirt - Yes.

Greg - That’s a ROCK FACT!

Wirt - Sigh…

Greg - Oh, and the frogs kicked Robz off the boat.

(...)

Robz888 has been exiled! They were Vanilla Town.

Vanilla Town

You have no powers other than your voice and your vote.

You win when all Mafia are dead and at least one town-aligned player is alive, or nothing can stop this from happening.

Night 1 starts now and ends July 31, 2024, 08:00:00 pm.

[MiX]

Dearest mcmcsalot,

I write to you in what I can only hope is a timely warning of your impending doom. I fear my research on the subject of your home has proven far more informative than either of us would have preferred.

I am aware this news may be foreign to you, and any explanation I could provide would likely yield little understanding, but I must try.

An unspeakable darkness is at work here.

I first became interested in your case after hearing of your insistence that your dining hall had become infested with-

Eh, who am I kidding, it’s already too late.

mcmcsalot has been killed! They were Vanilla Town.

Vanilla Town

You have no powers other than your voice and your vote.

You win when all Mafia are dead and at least one town-aligned player is alive, or nothing can stop this from happening.

Sincerely, Edward

Vote Count 2.0

Not Voting (10): Jimmmmm, infangthief, Awaclus, faust, joth, Didds, Cuzz, shraeye, Swowl, scolapasta

With 10 alive, it takes 6 votes to exile. Day 2 ends August 05, 2024, 08:00:00 pm

Thread Unlocked!

[jotheonah]

Well that could have gone better.

[Swowl]

K well that’s an annoying nk.

I have an early day so I will have to get to most my thought tomorrow - but everyone feel free to tear apart the fact that I think pasta needs to 100% claim something now.

[Swowl]

Vote: Shraeye

[Swowl]

Vote: Shraeye

[shraeye]

Well that could have gone better.

 Sure, but you know... Like reads and whatnot. 

My hot take is jimmm bad, faust good.

[shraeye]

K well that’s an annoying nk.

That's less self-evident than I think you're implying

[faust]

shraeye, where were you at the end of D1?

[faust]

K well that’s an annoying nk.

I have an early day so I will have to get to most my thought tomorrow - but everyone feel free to tear apart the fact that I think pasta needs to 100% claim something now.

Funny, I have similar thought on infangthief.

[faust]

Alternatively, we could go we no exile.

[faust]

*with no exile

[Awaclus]

IIRC in a purely vanilla game, no exiling asap when you have an even number of players is good, but it would be super lame if we no exiled and then there was a night with 0 or 2 deaths because of PR shenanigans.

[faust]

IIRC in a purely vanilla game, no exiling asap when you have an even number of players is good, but it would be super lame if we no exiled and then there was a night with 0 or 2 deaths because of PR shenanigans.

This is true but I think given that we still have all of our PRs, it can be worth it. That means that no exile benefits us more than it would in pure vanilla.

[Jimmmmm]

I think shraeye has been accused of "acti-lurking"? I think that is a kind of vacuous statement. shraeye has been playing pretty close to the chest, but it's clear that he has opinions. Yes, some posts are just jokes, but I can't fault anyone for having fun. Maybe I'm biased because I really enjoy pretty much all of shraeye's posts.

What opinions are you referring to?

I've collated everything from shraeye's 23 Day 1 posts that could possibly be considered an opinion. (They're copy-pasted and some of them modified for clarity. * means it came after shraeye was called out.)

Jokes
Words are important. Gotta find the best words.
Like this. We all know Jimmmm is fluffy. Famously fluffy in fact.  Perfect word, thanks Jimmmm.
drunk mafia is best mafia.
This is basically mafia in a nutshell.  Back up feelings with analysis, lean heavy into the confirmation bias on those times I have miraculously been right. *

Etiquette
Did you just underline "absurd" from his post? (implying it shouldn't be done)
I am not supposed to do the strong underlining jimm

Theory/Meta
Who is the #1 most/least content-full player right now? (implies it matters in theory; potentially implies that it was relevant to the game at that point)
I do not recall PRs going silently down with the ship ever. If you're argument is that they should, then I possibly agree but it's irrelevant
I see no downsides from swinging momentum from [fang] to [Robz] , especially when [fang] has likely been considered by all players and [Robz] is relatively less-spotlighted thus far. *

Self-analysis/defense
But cagey was not as perfect for for shraeye.
Flippant. Mostly stubborn (trying to improve this), and only accidentally helpful (no plans to change).
I mean, I'm biased. But I still totally disagree with this ("acti-lurker") take. *

Neutral
It is, unfortunately, perfectly Swowl-neutral in my mind
It is, unfortunately, perfectly faust-neutral in my mind

Opinions on words/actions taken by players
I don't consider mcmc to be the most active player, lots of back and forth that gets his post-count up sure...but that's not "active" in my book.
the conclusion you are really giving is "I know I called this out initially and brought extra attention to it, but it's a dangerous topic to discuss so nobody should say anything"??!!

Unexplained reads
I'm willing to give up my fourth-from-top scum read... It's scolapasta. (maybe belongs under "jokes")
Vote: mcmc Because of the thing
I'm still down for mcmc. Still because of the thing. *

Reads with something vaguely approaching an explanation
Didds is too middle of the road for me to move from mcmc.  Although I am liking her breakdown of scola...could move there *

So if we filter down to non-neutral opinions about this game and the other players in it, we get:
scola is the 4th scummyest player
mcmc's post count is boosted
mcmc was a bit hypocritical
mcmc is scummy
Didds is middle of the road
Didds lurker case on scola was good

Which of these opinions are helpful?

[Jimmmmm]

Someone is scared of a player that they can't anticipate what they're going to do and is trying to get rid of him.

Do scum ever actually do this? Surely if they were scared of someone, they would be less likely to be confrontational during the Day, and instead inclined to NK them?

[infangthief]

vote: faust

[faust]

Which of these opinions are helpful?

I don't think I said anything about shraeye being helpful.

[Jimmmmm]

You just enjoyed his jokes?

[Jimmmmm]

Is having opinions a Towntell? Do some of his particular opinions indicate he's Town?

[Jimmmmm]

I intend to move to Robz at some point, but at the moment I think that just consolidates the Robz v shraeye alternatives. I would rather we had like Robz v scola.

Hmmm… I agree with that. And we’re at the point where we need to consolidate for real.

Vote: Scola

I interpret fang's quote here as expressing a Townread on shraeye (ie wanting to remove him from consideration). Didds, did you intend to agree with that?