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Re: M140 - Gladiator Bomb Mafia
« Reply #525 on: July 29, 2024, 06:37:09 pm »

I'm here now.

Good morning! I hope there’s coffee.

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Re: M140 - Gladiator Bomb Mafia
« Reply #526 on: July 29, 2024, 06:38:07 pm »

There certainly is!
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Re: M140 - Gladiator Bomb Mafia
« Reply #527 on: July 29, 2024, 06:43:55 pm »

I was busy over weekend but was also ok with trying to keep a low profile. And I did try to hint very vaguely when I suggested my goal was to exile scum or at worst a non PR. Clearly too vague for anyone to catch

I'll leave it up to you to decide if this is something you should answer, but could there be concrete evidence of you actually having a PR later? I mean something like observable effects on the number of deaths per night, targeting actions that a tracker or watcher could see, an investigative role whose results could later be confirmed e.g. from flips or from other people's claims, etc. Doesn't have to be absolute proof, just anything that could potentially ruin a planned fakeclaim later (and again I'm not asking what it is, just whether or not something like that is there).
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Re: M140 - Gladiator Bomb Mafia
« Reply #528 on: July 29, 2024, 06:44:11 pm »

I forgot I have a concert to attend tonight. Green Day / Smashing Pumpkins wooo

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Re: M140 - Gladiator Bomb Mafia
« Reply #529 on: July 29, 2024, 06:48:08 pm »

I guess we shouldn’t exile a claimed PR.

Vote: shraeye
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Re: M140 - Gladiator Bomb Mafia
« Reply #530 on: July 29, 2024, 06:50:34 pm »

I was busy over weekend but was also ok with trying to keep a low profile. And I did try to hint very vaguely when I suggested my goal was to exile scum or at worst a non PR. Clearly too vague for anyone to catch

I'll leave it up to you to decide if this is something you should answer, but could there be concrete evidence of you actually having a PR later? I mean something like observable effects on the number of deaths per night, targeting actions that a tracker or watcher could see, an investigative role whose results could later be confirmed e.g. from flips or from other people's claims, etc. Doesn't have to be absolute proof, just anything that could potentially ruin a planned fakeclaim later (and again I'm not asking what it is, just whether or not something like that is there).


I can't tell if answering much more makes too much sense. Either you beleive me that I'm a PR and don't vote me or you don't, no?

But I'm willing to be convinced that it helps town for me to answer more. Swowl, thoughts? (and not because I'm 100% convinced your town, but I think either town you or scum you would give an honest and reasoned answer) Others too, of course.

(and if I do survive day (and night) we could continue to discuss "tomorrow".
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Re: M140 - Gladiator Bomb Mafia
« Reply #531 on: July 29, 2024, 06:51:09 pm »

I’m here.

I’m not gonna move to scola, though I can’t say I believe him.

Can I make a plea for Robz or fang over shraeye? I think the odds are better.
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Re: M140 - Gladiator Bomb Mafia
« Reply #532 on: July 29, 2024, 06:51:57 pm »

I guess we shouldn’t exile a claimed PR.

Scum can counter this strategy by claiming a PR.
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Re: M140 - Gladiator Bomb Mafia
« Reply #533 on: July 29, 2024, 06:53:58 pm »

I was busy over weekend but was also ok with trying to keep a low profile. And I did try to hint very vaguely when I suggested my goal was to exile scum or at worst a non PR. Clearly too vague for anyone to catch

I'll leave it up to you to decide if this is something you should answer, but could there be concrete evidence of you actually having a PR later? I mean something like observable effects on the number of deaths per night, targeting actions that a tracker or watcher could see, an investigative role whose results could later be confirmed e.g. from flips or from other people's claims, etc. Doesn't have to be absolute proof, just anything that could potentially ruin a planned fakeclaim later (and again I'm not asking what it is, just whether or not something like that is there).


I can't tell if answering much more makes too much sense. Either you beleive me that I'm a PR and don't vote me or you don't, no?

But I'm willing to be convinced that it helps town for me to answer more. Swowl, thoughts? (and not because I'm 100% convinced your town, but I think either town you or scum you would give an honest and reasoned answer) Others too, of course.

(and if I do survive day (and night) we could continue to discuss "tomorrow".

I can't right now. Sorry. It is important that you decide whether you give an answer or not in your response and it comes from you, not me or anyone else.

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Re: M140 - Gladiator Bomb Mafia
« Reply #534 on: July 29, 2024, 06:55:49 pm »

I realize I'm way behind and deadline is soon so if someone (town only pls) wants to be so kind as to give a hint of where to focus my attention I'd much appreciate.

I would take insight on any/all of
MCMC
Robz
Shraeye

All three have struck me as possibly scummy at some point or another. Mcmc seems to kinda be driving things, and scum sometimes wants to try for that, though it's risky because if he's town then he's one of the most active and likely most helpful, so I lean away from him. Robz and schraeye have both said some oddly cryptic things and had some weird interactions that seem off to me.
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Re: M140 - Gladiator Bomb Mafia
« Reply #535 on: July 29, 2024, 06:56:16 pm »

Hold up.

There’s only one town PR we know exists and it’s one that scum doesn’t want to hit with a NK, right? The gladiator bomb? So why would scola say he expects to be night killed for claiming a power role?
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Re: M140 - Gladiator Bomb Mafia
« Reply #536 on: July 29, 2024, 06:56:42 pm »

Sure. I'm happy not answering now.

Also happy to move to Robz (sorry, since you just moved away from me - but that's actually something would want to do quickly for cred, no?)

Vote: Robz
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Re: M140 - Gladiator Bomb Mafia
« Reply #537 on: July 29, 2024, 06:58:53 pm »

I can't tell if answering much more makes too much sense. Either you beleive me that I'm a PR and don't vote me or you don't, no?

It's more complicated than that, because it's not a binary thing, I can entertain both possibilities.
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Re: M140 - Gladiator Bomb Mafia
« Reply #538 on: July 29, 2024, 07:00:07 pm »

I’m here.

I’m not gonna move to scola, though I can’t say I believe him.

Can I make a plea for Robz or fang over shraeye? I think the odds are better.

Convince me why robz over shraeye specifically why not shreaye
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Re: M140 - Gladiator Bomb Mafia
« Reply #539 on: July 29, 2024, 07:00:30 pm »

I can't tell if answering much more makes too much sense. Either you beleive me that I'm a PR and don't vote me or you don't, no?

It's more complicated than that, because it's not a binary thing, I can entertain both possibilities.

Sure. It's also possible you could be scum trying to see if I'm ther Gladiator bomb or not, to target me at night? Though I do read you mostly townie so far.
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Re: M140 - Gladiator Bomb Mafia
« Reply #540 on: July 29, 2024, 07:02:15 pm »

Sure. I'm happy not answering now.

Also happy to move to Robz (sorry, since you just moved away from me - but that's actually something would want to do quickly for cred, no?)

Vote: Robz

What was this "Sure" in response to, the immediately preceding post (just 25 seconds earlier) or an earlier one?
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Re: M140 - Gladiator Bomb Mafia
« Reply #541 on: July 29, 2024, 07:03:06 pm »

To swowl's not wanting to advise.
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Re: M140 - Gladiator Bomb Mafia
« Reply #542 on: July 29, 2024, 07:04:04 pm »

VC should be:

shraeye (3): Swowl, Jimmmmm, Robz888
scolapasta (3): infangthief, Didds, faust
Robz888 (3): Awaclus, joth, scolapasta
infangthief (1): mcmcsalot
mcmcsalot (1): shraeye
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Re: M140 - Gladiator Bomb Mafia
« Reply #543 on: July 29, 2024, 07:04:53 pm »

As I mentioned earlier, I think shraeye is more in the category of "acti-lurker". He's had plenty of opportunity to provide meaningful content but just kind of hasn't.

Vote: shraeye
Just kind of throwing the term "acti-lurker" out there without any indication of what that means in this specific context. Boo. Also of course the convenience of Swowl suspecting Jimmmm and shraeye and Jimmmmm just directing that towards shraeye.

It means, out of his 18ish posts up to that point, the only things I could find that I classified as even remotely helpful are a question about who is "content-full", a joke that scola was his 4th scum read, an unexplained vote on mcmc, a question as to why fang's "light claim" was scummy, and a reasonable point about mcmc calling out fang's "light claim" and then suggesting it shouldn't be discussed.

I was aware that voting for shraeye after Swowl's posts would likely be called out, but I wasn't going to let that change my intention to move my vote, and likely to shraeye.
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Re: M140 - Gladiator Bomb Mafia
« Reply #544 on: July 29, 2024, 07:05:15 pm »

Hold up.

There’s only one town PR we know exists and it’s one that scum doesn’t want to hit with a NK, right? The gladiator bomb? So why would scola say he expects to be night killed for claiming a power role?

Yup and given the fact that this is known town!scola shouldn’t say that. On the other hand scum!scola should know not to say that as well but you know I judge town harsher than scum when it comes to claims and such.

As with fang scola should full claim or stop talking about it
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Re: M140 - Gladiator Bomb Mafia
« Reply #545 on: July 29, 2024, 07:05:20 pm »

Vote Count 1.6

shraeye (3): Swowl, Jimmmmm, Robz888
scolapasta (3): infangthief, Didds, faust
Robz888 (3): Awaclus, joth, scolapasta
infangthief (1): mcmcsalot
mcmcsalot (1): shraeye
Awaclus (1): Cuzz
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With 12 alive, it takes 7 votes to exile. Day 1 ends July 29, 2024, 08:00:00 pm. That is less than 1 hour from now!
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Re: M140 - Gladiator Bomb Mafia
« Reply #546 on: July 29, 2024, 07:07:35 pm »

I’m here.

I’m not gonna move to scola, though I can’t say I believe him.

Can I make a plea for Robz or fang over shraeye? I think the odds are better.

Convince me why robz over shraeye specifically why not shreaye

My case on Robz is so subjective. The way he’s playing generally, so agreeable, much sheeping, much buddying, is a scum tell for Robz specifically. He is brazen.

The shraeye case is such a nothingburger. If you looked up “day one misexile” in the dictionary it would be the shraeye case, such as it is.
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Re: M140 - Gladiator Bomb Mafia
« Reply #547 on: July 29, 2024, 07:08:07 pm »

It’s super frustrating that Shraeye has a vote out there doing nothing

Mcmc, what are you thinking?
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Re: M140 - Gladiator Bomb Mafia
« Reply #548 on: July 29, 2024, 07:08:59 pm »

I guess I’d move to shraeye to protect a claimed PR but I won’t feel good about it.
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Re: M140 - Gladiator Bomb Mafia
« Reply #549 on: July 29, 2024, 07:09:26 pm »

I’m here.

I’m not gonna move to scola, though I can’t say I believe him.

Can I make a plea for Robz or fang over shraeye? I think the odds are better.

Convince me why robz over shraeye specifically why not shreaye

My case on Robz is so subjective. The way he’s playing generally, so agreeable, much sheeping, much buddying, is a scum tell for Robz specifically. He is brazen.

The shraeye case is such a nothingburger. If you looked up “day one misexile” in the dictionary it would be the shraeye case, such as it is.


I think there may be some wisdom there
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