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[faust]

Something that's more important than setup speculation is the fact that we have plurality exile and relatively short days. We need a certain amount of discipline when it comes to end-of-Day wagoning to make sure we don't accidentally land on one of our PRs.

[infangthief]

Hi everyone!

Heyo all!

For fun I just went back through old posts and determined it’s been over 6 years since I’ve played mafia so I barely remember how this game works.

... and I reckon it is about 6 years since I first played mafia here, so hi Cuzz! and hi Shraeye, don't think I've played with you either.

This game works by everyone telling the truth all the time. MiX told us so:

There will be no "bastard" mechanics like lying

So Cuzz, are you a member of the Mafia?

[infangthief]

I do not like plurality exile.

[Awaclus]

Is Swowl more likely town or scum for pointing this out?

Are you more likely town or scum for wondering this?

Vote: faust

[Awaclus]

I do not like plurality exile.

Why not? We can still exile normally as long as we do it on time, plexile is just a fail-safe so that we don't accidentally skip a turn without doing anything.

[infangthief]

I do not like plurality exile.

Why not? We can still exile normally as long as we do it on time, plexile is just a fail-safe so that we don't accidentally skip a turn without doing anything.

Because people end up being lazy.

[infangthief]

Wait you're saying that if there's a Vig, then there's another role that would prevent the double Bomb kill?

If there's a Vig and multiple Bombs, the Vig modification could just be "If you target a Bomb and a different Bomb dies, your kill fails".

There is also the potential of lovers which would cause multiple night deaths just not kills, bodyguard wouldn't affect anything, pretty sure that's it for additional death pr's. Again I think it is likely vague for non-confirmation reasons not vague for hiding some strange power shenanigans

It was Jimmmmm's suggestion that the vagueness was for non-confirmation reasons. But here you're implying that it was your take.

vote: mcmcsalot

[faust]

Is Swowl more likely town or scum for pointing this out?

Are you more likely town or scum for wondering this?

Vote: faust

Town

[faust]

I do not like plurality exile.

Why not? We can still exile normally as long as we do it on time, plexile is just a fail-safe so that we don't accidentally skip a turn without doing anything.

Any mechanic that introduces a coinflip into a game is terrible.

[mcmcsalot]

Ah, it has begun!

It's good to catch that there are no third parties, I missed that because it was weirdly under "bastard" mechanics?

Is Swowl more likely town or scum for pointing this out?

I didn't get a read from him pointing this out but the fact that he said

I effing LOVE set up talk... but this doesn't seem like a beneficial game for us to focus on it too much. My 2 cents.

gives me townie vibes. I think town is more likely to feel this way then scum.

[jotheonah]

Heyo all!

For fun I just went back through old posts and determined it’s been over 6 years since I’ve played mafia so I barely remember how this game works.

You still in the Somerville area? I moved out to the burbs

[mcmcsalot]

Wait you're saying that if there's a Vig, then there's another role that would prevent the double Bomb kill?

If there's a Vig and multiple Bombs, the Vig modification could just be "If you target a Bomb and a different Bomb dies, your kill fails".

There is also the potential of lovers which would cause multiple night deaths just not kills, bodyguard wouldn't affect anything, pretty sure that's it for additional death pr's. Again I think it is likely vague for non-confirmation reasons not vague for hiding some strange power shenanigans

It was Jimmmmm's suggestion that the vagueness was for non-confirmation reasons. But here you're implying that it was your take.

vote: mcmcsalot

good thinking but that's not what I was trying to do. The "again" was referencing the below post where I had already said I agreed with Jimm's suggestion of vaugeness.

Also do we want to discuss the whole no double bomb but potentially multiple nk setup stuff? There aren’t too many roles that can cause those scenarios that I can think of.

I mean, there could be no multiple kills, or there could be only one Bomb, or there could be some modified role to take that into account. I suspect the purpose of that clarification is simply to pre-empt the question of "What if multiple Bombs die?" without answering the questions "Are there multiple Bombs?" or "Could there be multiple kills?".

I suspect you are correct and in the event there are two kills the non vig role that potentially causes that would reveal itself

[jotheonah]

Is Swowl more likely town or scum for pointing this out?

I find this to be a silly question. Setup talk is totally faction-neutral. What's the implication? That scum is going to keep mum and hope no one else read the setup so they can keep their SK fakeclaim in their back pocket? Absurd.

vote: faust

[faust]

Please don't project stuff onto my words that I never said.

[jotheonah]

Honest question: Under what situation would pointing out a thing about the setup be a scum tell?

[WestCoastDidds]

Hi hi hi hi hi!

I’ve missed you all so much! I have so many questions for all of you about your lives and new and exciting life events. I’ll try to refrain because I don’t liked being called fluffy but know that I am burning with buroisty. EFHW, it killed me not to be able to say hi because the thread was locked. I’m kicking myself for not figuring out some other way than f.ds to send you a message.

I’m soaking up the set up talk, although my guess is that it won’t help me much until Day 2 when someone can actually explain what happened instead of what can happen.

Deadline is Monday evening at 8, and likely too late for our euro friends (just faust, Awa, and thief? And for Jimmm it’s so late that it will be morning again?). And plurality. Thanks fausty for that. Good eye!

[infangthief]

unvote fairy nuff mcmc

[shraeye]

Ah, it has begun!

It's good to catch that there are no third parties, I missed that because it was weirdly under "bastard" mechanics?

Is Swowl more likely town or scum for pointing this out?

It is, unfortunately, perfectly Swowl-neutral in my mind

[shraeye]

Is Swowl more likely town or scum for pointing this out?

Are you more likely town or scum for wondering this?

Vote: faust

It is, unfortunately, perfectly faust-neutral in my mind

[mcmcsalot]

I 100% agree with Shraeye and in fact vote: joth

Is Swowl more likely town or scum for pointing this out?

I find this to be a silly question. Setup talk is totally faction-neutral. What's the implication? That scum is going to keep mum and hope no one else read the setup so they can keep their SK fakeclaim in their back pocket? Absurd.

vote: faust

These are very strong words from a day 1`townie. Feels more like joth is trying to get an exhile going rather than trying to scumhunt.

[shraeye]

Did you just underline "absurd" from his post?

[WestCoastDidds]

They also seem unusually aggro for Joth

[infangthief]

I 100% think that Shraeye is being cagey.

Is Shraeye more likely town or scum for being cagey?

But certainly vote: joth

[mcmcsalot]

Did you just underline "absurd" from his post?

I did, am I not supposed to underline things in quotes its very possible that a thing we aren't supposed to do. That was the word that struck me as pretty strong so I was highlighting it by underlining. I did it in my post quoting the jimm and I back and forth as well.

[infangthief]

Hot take, mcmc is not posting by voice-to-text software or whatever I remember him doing a few games back.