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Xen3k

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Fan Card Mechanics Week 47: No Good Mutineering Scallywags!
« on: November 02, 2022, 08:07:07 pm »
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For the week 47 challenge! Gonna be using a mechanic designed by Violet CLM from the very helpful Atlas of Fan Card Mechanics: Mutineers. I created a mat for them and modified their function slightly.


 
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Mutineers
During your Action phase, if you have at least 1 card in hand, you may remove a token to discard a card. When scoring, -1VP per token here.

Things to note. You must have a card in hand to spend a Mutineers token. Spending a Mutineers token will discard a card from your hand. You cannot spend multiple tokens to discard a single card. You may only spend a Mutineers token when a card is not resolving; this is not part of the rules on the mat, but that is the intention of the mechanics design. When scoring, players get -1 VP for each Mutineers token they still have.

The challenge; design a card shaped thing to interact with the Mutineers mat. All official mechanics and fan mechanics are fair game. I will be judging based on my own preferences, but I will try to be as fair as I can. Factors I try to look at are simplicity of design, thought provoking design/mechanics, flavorful name/concept, and balance/playability.

I will be giving a 24 hour warning a week from yesterday and then close it the following day. I hope to have judging done and posted by the end of Thursday next week, but it may be delayed due to work and such.

This mechanic is similar to the Curse tokens previously showcased in fan mechanics challenge #21, but I think Mutineers are a lot more forgiving, so they fulfill different niches. I look forward to seeing what you all come up with! Have fun!

Update: Extending the close date until Friday due to only 4 entries so far. Will give 24 hour notice on Thursday. This is up for change if people generally don't want to wait that long. Please reply below with your thougts.
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Re: Fan Card Mechanics Week 47: No Good Mutineering Scallywags!
« Reply #1 on: November 03, 2022, 10:41:25 am »
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Just wondering, would this wording just be better:
"During your action face you may discard an card to remove an mutineer token"
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Re: Fan Card Mechanics Week 47: No Good Mutineering Scallywags!
« Reply #2 on: November 03, 2022, 10:46:25 am »
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Pirate Recruiter  4$
Action - Attack
+2$
Give all other players 2 mutineers
If another player has at least 5 mutineers tokens, then +2$

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Re: Fan Card Mechanics Week 47: No Good Mutineering Scallywags!
« Reply #3 on: November 03, 2022, 10:49:51 am »
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Just wondering, would this wording just be better:
"During your action face you may discard an card to remove an mutineer token"

I think that would allow you to discard even if you didn't have any tokens left, so you probably still need an "if you have" subclause.
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Re: Fan Card Mechanics Week 47: No Good Mutineering Scallywags!
« Reply #4 on: November 03, 2022, 06:45:02 pm »
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Buccaneer
$5 - Action - Attack
+1 Card
+1 Action
+$1.
Each other player takes a Mutineer.


I've tried several cards with this mechanic. What I've found it that it's fine for something that's supposed to be a very weak attack (like this one), but in order to make them actually hurt, you need to be giving out a lot of mutineers. And sometimes (including anytime there's draw-to-x or a discard reaction like Trail or Village Green), they can be actively helpful.

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Re: Fan Card Mechanics Week 47: No Good Mutineering Scallywags!
« Reply #5 on: November 03, 2022, 11:34:52 pm »
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Buckaroo
Action - $4
+1 Card
+1 Action
+1 Mutineer
Gain a Horse.
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When you gain this, +1 Mutineer.
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Re: Fan Card Mechanics Week 47: No Good Mutineering Scallywags!
« Reply #6 on: November 04, 2022, 01:28:21 pm »
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Gaining Horses is similar in strength to immediate draw and Mutineers are strictly better than having to discard immediately. So this is roughly as strong as Fugitive which is a $4.5.
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Re: Fan Card Mechanics Week 47: No Good Mutineering Scallywags!
« Reply #7 on: November 08, 2022, 02:16:33 am »
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Greedy Mate
$4 - Action
+3 Cards
+2 Mutineers
You may gain a Copper for +Action


The idea is to tempt you to overuse it and take too many Coppers and Mutineers.
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Re: Fan Card Mechanics Week 47: No Good Mutineering Scallywags!
« Reply #8 on: November 08, 2022, 07:28:11 am »
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Ok, I have 4 entries. I can either put 24 hour notice up later today, or update the OP with an extended entry time phrase. Anyone have a preference?
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Re: Fan Card Mechanics Week 47: No Good Mutineering Scallywags!
« Reply #9 on: November 08, 2022, 04:58:40 pm »
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I really like this mechanic. An pitty you have such few submissions. But do you really think more will come?
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Re: Fan Card Mechanics Week 47: No Good Mutineering Scallywags!
« Reply #10 on: November 08, 2022, 05:21:28 pm »
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I really like this mechanic. An pitty you have such few submissions. But do you really think more will come?

Not sure. Gonna give it a couple more days. If no response by Thursday, I am giving the 24 hour notice.
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Re: Fan Card Mechanics Week 47: No Good Mutineering Scallywags!
« Reply #11 on: November 08, 2022, 06:22:43 pm »
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Corrupted System
Action - $5
+3 Mutineers
This turn, during your Action phase, when you discard any number of cards from your hand, +1 Card

(E.g. you get +1 card after you discard 3 cards from playing Warehouse, +1 card after discarding from a Mutineer spend)
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Re: Fan Card Mechanics Week 47: No Good Mutineering Scallywags!
« Reply #12 on: November 08, 2022, 07:13:40 pm »
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Ruined Wharf $4
Now and at the start of your next turn:
+2 cards
+2 Mutineers

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Re: Fan Card Mechanics Week 47: No Good Mutineering Scallywags!
« Reply #13 on: November 09, 2022, 05:42:28 pm »
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Re: Fan Card Mechanics Week 47: No Good Mutineering Scallywags!
« Reply #14 on: November 09, 2022, 10:27:03 pm »
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Could you clarify which discarded cards it refers to?
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Re: Fan Card Mechanics Week 47: No Good Mutineering Scallywags!
« Reply #15 on: November 10, 2022, 01:08:58 am »
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Press Gang
$3 Action
+5 Cards
+5 Mutineers
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Re: Fan Card Mechanics Week 47: No Good Mutineering Scallywags!
« Reply #16 on: November 10, 2022, 03:11:41 am »
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Jinxed Plunder : Treasure - Reaction : $3
$2
+1 Mutineer
-
When you discard this, +2 Actions.
Odd that there aren't any Discard-Reaction cards here yet.
Anyway, a Silver-Necropolis. Gives you something to discard.
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Re: Fan Card Mechanics Week 47: No Good Mutineering Scallywags!
« Reply #17 on: November 10, 2022, 07:22:08 am »
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24 hour warning
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Re: Fan Card Mechanics Week 47: No Good Mutineering Scallywags!
« Reply #18 on: November 10, 2022, 11:14:35 am »
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Jinxed Plunder : Treasure - Reaction : $3
$2
+1 Mutineer
-
When you discard this, +2 Actions.
Odd that there aren't any Discard-Reaction cards here yet.
Anyway, a Silver-Necropolis. Gives you something to discard.
To be precise, like Coin of the Realm it is a DoubleNecropolis.
I really like this design. It might be OK at $2 as a DoubleNecro is arguably weaker than a Silver. On the other hand, there are intricacies like using this as a Silver in the early game and as a splitter afterwards, so you gotta price in the flexibility (of course no totally flexibility like with choice cards unless you pay the price of negative VPs).
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Re: Fan Card Mechanics Week 47: No Good Mutineering Scallywags!
« Reply #19 on: November 10, 2022, 08:23:55 pm »
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Could you clarify which discarded cards it refers to?
Oh, i guess from your hand. Is there discarding from another place?

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Re: Fan Card Mechanics Week 47: No Good Mutineering Scallywags!
« Reply #20 on: November 10, 2022, 09:19:58 pm »
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Could you clarify which discarded cards it refers to?
Oh, i guess from your hand. Is there discarding from another place?
No, I assumed you meant from your hand. I mean what cards are being referred to? The cards that have already been discarded, or the ones that will be discarded? For how long do you have to track this effect, for the rest of the game? The card itself does not discard any cards, so it needs to be a bit more specific.
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Re: Fan Card Mechanics Week 47: No Good Mutineering Scallywags!
« Reply #21 on: November 10, 2022, 09:31:09 pm »
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Gaining Horses is similar in strength to immediate draw and Mutineers are strictly better than having to discard immediately. So this is roughly as strong as Fugitive which is a $4.5.

Yes, I agree. I bumped it up to $4 and added a Mutineer on-gain.
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Re: Fan Card Mechanics Week 47: No Good Mutineering Scallywags!
« Reply #22 on: November 10, 2022, 09:41:07 pm »
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Could you clarify which discarded cards it refers to?
Oh, i guess from your hand. Is there discarding from another place?
No, I assumed you meant from your hand. I mean what cards are being referred to? The cards that have already been discarded, or the ones that will be discarded? For how long do you have to track this effect, for the rest of the game? The card itself does not discard any cards, so it needs to be a bit more specific.
Oh, i guess for the rest of this turn, meaning after this card is played until the turn ends.

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Re: Fan Card Mechanics Week 47: No Good Mutineering Scallywags!
« Reply #23 on: November 11, 2022, 05:41:13 am »
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My submission:

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Impressment • $0 • Event
+2 Buys
+1 Mutineer
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Thanks to Shard of Honor for his Extended Version of the Dominion Card Image Generator, which I use to mock up my fan cards, and to Violet CLM, who made the original.

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« Reply #24 on: November 11, 2022, 07:41:41 am »
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Closed
I'll be working to get the results up later today.
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