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Re: M139 - Godfather Mafia - DAY 1
« Reply #400 on: March 01, 2023, 09:42:59 am »

Is the deadline in about 4-5 hours? (almost 5)
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Re: M139 - Godfather Mafia - DAY 1
« Reply #401 on: March 01, 2023, 09:58:28 am »

Yeah Awaclus is… frank. A dry and sometimes sharp wit, and not prone to elaboration. Long ago he used to be unhelpful but it hasn’t been the case in a while.

And even then it was more of a faustian “playing it close to the vest” unhelpfulness rather than outright obstinancy.
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Re: M139 - Godfather Mafia - DAY 1
« Reply #402 on: March 01, 2023, 10:07:01 am »

I think I would have recruited if I were scum....

I do agree that points to someone who feels pretty safely not under suspicion, or someone who's just gutsy AF.

MiX?

My initial rwaction is actually Awaclus. vote: Awaclus

This is from someone who feels safely not under suspicion? Why Awaclus first?

Awaclus is gutsy enough to forgo recruiting in favor of killing
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Re: M139 - Godfather Mafia - DAY 1
« Reply #403 on: March 01, 2023, 10:10:05 am »

i might be here for deadline. i don't really want to vote EFHW, but will for exile
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Re: M139 - Godfather Mafia - DAY 1
« Reply #404 on: March 01, 2023, 10:11:37 am »

cab someone please compile a VC?
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Re: M139 - Godfather Mafia - DAY 1
« Reply #405 on: March 01, 2023, 10:33:20 am »

Is the deadline in about 4-5 hours? (almost 5)

I believe "FT" (forum time) is EST, IIRC.  So 8:35pm is about 10 hours from now.

Right now, I'd be happy to vote MiX, EFHW, or Awaclus.  I'd prefer my vote to stay where it is, but will switch to either of the others to get an exile.  (I'll likely be unavailable for the 2 hours before and including deadline - so my final vote will likely be cast around 6:30pm).
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Re: M139 - Godfather Mafia - DAY 1
« Reply #406 on: March 01, 2023, 10:49:40 am »

Okay I am completely sold on the EFHW/math team. Count me in to vote them at deadline.

I still prefer math though.

Awaclus will you be around for deadline?

Please just vote now. Why wait for a deadline?
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Re: M139 - Godfather Mafia - DAY 1
« Reply #407 on: March 01, 2023, 10:51:15 am »

OK, back from Korea! What a trip. (i can type a trip report up if people are interested in a later post)

Need to re reread, but right now my top scum reads are EFHW are MiX.

Will vote for one of those by 5pm forum time, and then hope to stay awake long enough to be around for deadline.


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Re: M139 - Godfather Mafia - DAY 1
« Reply #408 on: March 01, 2023, 10:51:57 am »

Okay I am completely sold on the EFHW/math team. Count me in to vote them at deadline.

I still prefer math though.

Awaclus will you be around for deadline?

Please just vote now. Why wait for a deadline?

You're right, better to put the vote in now (and I can change it later). Of the two, I prefer:

Vote: EFHW
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Re: M139 - Godfather Mafia - DAY 1
« Reply #409 on: March 01, 2023, 10:52:07 am »

I think that's X-1.
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Re: M139 - Godfather Mafia - DAY 1
« Reply #410 on: March 01, 2023, 11:20:57 am »

Okay I am completely sold on the EFHW/math team. Count me in to vote them at deadline.

I still prefer math though.

Awaclus will you be around for deadline?

Please just vote now. Why wait for a deadline?

I am voting, for mathdude.
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Re: M139 - Godfather Mafia - DAY 1
« Reply #411 on: March 01, 2023, 12:54:49 pm »

You guys are wrong about me. I've been open about my opinions and taken stands. I made cases, of varying value, and have been pro-town in my priorities. I tried to get an exile Day 1. I made excellent arguments against the mathdude case today, which have somehow not been responded to. Perhaps some of you would read my post on Lalight's case and see how the case on math doesn't hold up. It's anti-town to let a bad case go to exile.
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Re: M139 - Godfather Mafia - DAY 1
« Reply #412 on: March 01, 2023, 01:04:03 pm »

The case for MiX as SM is strong. It is only weakened by his saying he's been playing plurality so long he forgot that majority was a thing. That isn't even a strong argument, because he still could have voted. By not voting he was avoiding taking a stand - not having a helpful vote down at EoD is scummy. I think he hesitated then because he hadn't quite decided to go with the bus on math. Now he has decided, and comes out of the gate prepared with an argument based on the nk choice.

I don't think math would have chosen to nk Joseph. I don't think Joseph was any kind of actual threat to mathdude. I think MiX killed Joseph and came up with this theory to frame math and take the game on as SK facing town with no powers.
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Re: M139 - Godfather Mafia - DAY 1
« Reply #413 on: March 01, 2023, 01:26:02 pm »

On a different scum narrative, I hate to say this because he's been a helpful contributor, but Awaclus is behaving differently from usual, and the last time that happened he was scum.

Someone says this every game.

"Awaclus is being more helpful than usual" has been a meme for at least three years now:

Awaclus has been decidedly less painfully obstinate than I remember.  Has he changed (I know I keep asking this but I think it matters) to be more open and helpful?  If not, I’d lean more scum on him, since the one constant for Awaclus was that he would never do anything for anyone else, no matter what, and would always be completely convinced he was right.

I have always been helpful, there's nothing unusual about that.

Does this usually come from town or scum? Asking you because you might have caught onto a pattern.

The case for MiX as SM is strong. It is only weakened by his saying he's been playing plurality so long he forgot that majority was a thing. That isn't even a strong argument, because he still could have voted. By not voting he was avoiding taking a stand - not having a helpful vote down at EoD is scummy. I think he hesitated then because he hadn't quite decided to go with the bus on math. Now he has decided, and comes out of the gate prepared with an argument based on the nk choice.

I don't think math would have chosen to nk Joseph. I don't think Joseph was any kind of actual threat to mathdude. I think MiX killed Joseph and came up with this theory to frame math and take the game on as SK facing town with no powers.

I agree with this case being strong, in so far as I think it's townie to put this case forward, but also I had already said this D1, basically.

You guys are wrong about me. I've been open about my opinions and taken stands. I made cases, of varying value, and have been pro-town in my priorities. I tried to get an exile Day 1. I made excellent arguments against the mathdude case today, which have somehow not been responded to. Perhaps some of you would read my post on Lalight's case and see how the case on math doesn't hold up. It's anti-town to let a bad case go to exile.

Your anti-case is pretty good, and I can see LaLight's reaching a lot, but:

1. Reaching's townie in this game state. Similarly, shooting down cases is scummy. Weird, isn't it, how telling the truth is bad.

2. It doesn't make math townie. Math could've followed LaLight's logic anyway.

3. Math can still be SM/traitor regardless.

4. I'm townreading gkrieg, awaclus and lalight, and now almost townreading you, and once you cut scola from being the exile today for being afk (if you have a reason not to give him a D2 pass let me know) there's only like 3 people left so why not math.

5. The elephant in the room: math should've died yesterday, so might as well kill him today. Yes I know that makes me scummy, but I'm already SM in your eyes so shrug.
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Re: M139 - Godfather Mafia - DAY 1
« Reply #414 on: March 01, 2023, 01:31:42 pm »

You guys are wrong about me.

I don't think we are.

I think he hesitated then because he hadn't quite decided to go with the bus on math.

You think that's a strong case?
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Re: M139 - Godfather Mafia - DAY 1
« Reply #415 on: March 01, 2023, 01:35:06 pm »

vote: EFHW am I on time?
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Re: M139 - Godfather Mafia - DAY 1
« Reply #416 on: March 01, 2023, 01:37:43 pm »

Does this usually come from town or scum? Asking you because you might have caught onto a pattern.

Not that I have noticed. I know it has come from town at least in some cases, such as when I have actually been scum myself, but I have also gotten those comments as town and obviously then I don't know the alignment of whoever's saying it in the moment, which makes it more difficult to notice a pattern.
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Re: M139 - Godfather Mafia - DAY 1
« Reply #417 on: March 01, 2023, 03:07:27 pm »

Lalight should have let me claim. I'm the jailkeeper.
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Re: M139 - Godfather Mafia - DAY 1
« Reply #418 on: March 01, 2023, 03:11:02 pm »

You guys are wrong about me.

I don't think we are.

I think he hesitated then because he hadn't quite decided to go with the bus on math.

You think that's a strong case?

You excerpt one line from a paragraph case and then say it's weak? Whatever. You guys messed up.
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Re: M139 - Godfather Mafia - DAY 1
« Reply #419 on: March 01, 2023, 03:34:28 pm »

Well, that's a bummer if true.
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Re: M139 - Godfather Mafia - DAY 1
« Reply #420 on: March 01, 2023, 03:42:08 pm »

Well, that's a bummer if true.

EFHW doesn't seem the type to troll us here.
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Re: M139 - Godfather Mafia - DAY 1
« Reply #421 on: March 01, 2023, 03:49:13 pm »

Lalight should have let me claim. I'm the jailkeeper.

Should've claimed earlier, you were at X-1 for a while.
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Re: M139 - Godfather Mafia - DAY 1
« Reply #422 on: March 01, 2023, 05:54:30 pm »

Well. Other than I'm scum, any last thoughts, EFHW?

I would also ask everyone else but I guess that would help scum.
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Re: M139 - Godfather Mafia - DAY 1
« Reply #423 on: March 01, 2023, 06:55:58 pm »

THREAD LOCKED
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TOWN Wins: M3, M5, M6, M11, M17, M28, M32, M105, M108, M114, M118, M120, M122, DM1, DoM1, OZ2, RM45, RM47, RM48, RM49, RM55
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SCUM Wins: M2, M19, M23, M100, DM3, RM1, RM2, RM48, RM50
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Re: M139 - Godfather Mafia - DAY 1
« Reply #424 on: March 01, 2023, 06:56:55 pm »

Final D2 vote count to come in a few when Swowl can log on.
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TOWN Wins: M3, M5, M6, M11, M17, M28, M32, M105, M108, M114, M118, M120, M122, DM1, DoM1, OZ2, RM45, RM47, RM48, RM49, RM55
TOWN Losses: M4, M7, M8, M9, M13, M14, M18, M31, M110, M111, M113, M117, M125, RM3, RM4, RM54
SCUM Wins: M2, M19, M23, M100, DM3, RM1, RM2, RM48, RM50
SCUM Losses: M15 (SK), M102 (Tr), OZ1, RM55

Total Wins: 30
Total Losses: 20
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