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Re: Mafia 138 - Hungry Hungry Hippo Mafia - Day 1 has Started!
« Reply #475 on: July 27, 2022, 09:11:31 am »

Iím firmly on team Eddie/Joth now!

Why is Eddie/Joth a team? What made you want to join it?

These are the folks instrumental in exiling Jack. They are my town team. Either of them not joining the wagon would have made traction on exiling scum way harder.
So, what are your thoughts on gkrieg's claim?

I believe him. Or at least I think itís in our best interest to proceed as if what he is saying is true. If itís not, we find out soon enough.
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Re: Mafia 138 - Hungry Hungry Hippo Mafia - Day 1 has Started!
« Reply #476 on: July 27, 2022, 10:05:04 am »

How do we find out soon enough? If he's the SK and the vig and both mafia are dead, he could ride this claim to the end of the game, couldn't he?
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Re: Mafia 138 - Hungry Hungry Hippo Mafia - Day 1 has Started!
« Reply #477 on: July 27, 2022, 10:38:39 am »

How do we find out soon enough? If he's the SK and the vig and both mafia are dead, he could ride this claim to the end of the game, couldn't he?

The cop?
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Re: Mafia 138 - Hungry Hungry Hippo Mafia - Day 1 has Started!
« Reply #478 on: July 27, 2022, 10:59:18 am »

The cop specifically does not work for gkrieg.
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Re: Mafia 138 - Hungry Hungry Hippo Mafia - Day 1 has Started!
« Reply #479 on: July 27, 2022, 11:22:01 am »

How do we find out soon enough? If he's the SK and the vig and both mafia are dead, he could ride this claim to the end of the game, couldn't he?
If he's the SK, scum will know he is lying and will likely shoot him.
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Re: Mafia 138 - Hungry Hungry Hippo Mafia - Day 1 has Started!
« Reply #480 on: July 27, 2022, 11:25:25 am »

How do we find out soon enough? If he's the SK and the vig and both mafia are dead, he could ride this claim to the end of the game, couldn't he?
If he's the SK, scum will know he is lying and will likely shoot him.

SK!gkrieg couldn't have killed both a scum and the vig.
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Re: Mafia 138 - Hungry Hungry Hippo Mafia - Day 1 has Started!
« Reply #481 on: July 27, 2022, 11:26:36 am »

How do we find out soon enough? If he's the SK and the vig and both mafia are dead, he could ride this claim to the end of the game, couldn't he?
If he's the SK, scum will know he is lying and will likely shoot him.

SK!gkrieg couldn't have killed both a scum and the vig.

Yeah he could.

If SK, gkrieg shot Jimmmmm, the town vig, that shot Joseph, the scum, who then shot faust. So there's no scum alive to kill him.
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Re: Mafia 138 - Hungry Hungry Hippo Mafia - Day 1 has Started!
« Reply #482 on: July 27, 2022, 11:28:46 am »

How do we find out soon enough? If he's the SK and the vig and both mafia are dead, he could ride this claim to the end of the game, couldn't he?
If he's the SK, scum will know he is lying and will likely shoot him.

SK!gkrieg couldn't have killed both a scum and the vig.
If one of the other two nks were vig or scum, gkrieg wouldn't know that and wouldn't risk this claim.
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Re: Mafia 138 - Hungry Hungry Hippo Mafia - Day 1 has Started!
« Reply #483 on: July 27, 2022, 12:01:04 pm »

But you get the bodies of the people you kill. So if he killed Joseph who killed scum, then he'd know both identities. Right?
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Re: Mafia 138 - Hungry Hungry Hippo Mafia - SIGN UPS OPEN!!!
« Reply #484 on: July 27, 2022, 12:01:50 pm »


If a Cannibal night-kills another Cannibal, they take all of the bodies their target had, learning all the role/alignment information their target knew. This will include their target's night-kill target from that same night, if applicable.

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Re: Mafia 138 - Hungry Hungry Hippo Mafia - Day 1 has Started!
« Reply #485 on: July 27, 2022, 12:59:53 pm »

How do we find out soon enough? If he's the SK and the vig and both mafia are dead, he could ride this claim to the end of the game, couldn't he?
If he's the SK, scum will know he is lying and will likely shoot him.

SK!gkrieg couldn't have killed both a scum and the vig.

Yeah he could.

If SK, gkrieg shot Jimmmmm, the town vig, that shot Joseph, the scum, who then shot faust. So there's no scum alive to kill him.

This is possible, but the number of deaths tonight should help us sort it out, hopefully. There's still the chance of manipulation by him if he's lying. But if we got all killing roles dead except him on D1 and N1, AND he pulled this huge gamble, he almost deserves the win already. I think it's much more likely, and in our best interest, to assume he's telling the truth... at least for today.

There's also the possibility that he's SK and killed Vig. Other scum doesn't counter, or he's exposed. Gk gambles that we or he finds other scum before scum kills him 2 nights in a row. But again... a risky edge case, and better for us to just assume he's telling the truth today.

He can't be SK who found scum (who didn't kill Vig), or Vig would counterclaim.

If he's scum and killed Vig (opposite of what he claimed), then SK likely kills him tonight, if we don't find and exile SK today. So this isn't likely either.
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Re: Mafia 138 - Hungry Hungry Hippo Mafia - Day 1 has Started!
« Reply #486 on: July 27, 2022, 03:18:42 pm »

Iím firmly on team Eddie/Joth now!

Why is Eddie/Joth a team? What made you want to join it?

These are the folks instrumental in exiling Jack. They are my town team. Either of them not joining the wagon would have made traction on exiling scum way harder.

This really doesn't compute. If Eddie/Joth are the folks most instrumental in exiling Jack, you can be HAPPY with their actions (I am) but in terms of whether their actions make them GoodPeople...their actions really just means "They are very much not Jack's partner."  Which means they are either SK or Town, each having equal incentive/happiness at exiling a Goon on Day1.

The only world where Jack's partner is somehow still alive is when it is gkreig going crrrrazy with a gambit.  So, you're saying "I am sure Eddie/joth are on my team because they are not Jack's partner....really doesn't compute with the statements you made here"

Eh, Iíll just claim

Iím the vig

I killed Joseph, who was the other scum. He killed faust, who was VT.

Also, a little DAMA.

OhhhhÖ..spicy!

So, we just need to find the SK?
Iím firmly on team Eddie/Joth now!

Why is Eddie/Joth a team? What made you want to join it?

These are the folks instrumental in exiling Jack. They are my town team. Either of them not joining the wagon would have made traction on exiling scum way harder.
So, what are your thoughts on gkrieg's claim?

I believe him. Or at least I think itís in our best interest to proceed as if what he is saying is true. If itís not, we find out soon enough.
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Re: Mafia 138 - Hungry Hungry Hippo Mafia - Day 1 has Started!
« Reply #487 on: July 27, 2022, 03:32:28 pm »

shraeye do you suspect Didds of being the SK, or are you just telling her she's wrong?
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Re: Mafia 138 - Hungry Hungry Hippo Mafia - Day 1 has Started!
« Reply #488 on: July 27, 2022, 05:17:25 pm »

But you get the bodies of the people you kill. So if he killed Joseph who killed scum, then he'd know both identities. Right?
Oh! I forgot about that!
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Re: Mafia 138 - Hungry Hungry Hippo Mafia - Day 1 has Started!
« Reply #489 on: July 27, 2022, 09:51:47 pm »

Sorry, Iíve dropped the ball on this game.

I will say that I donít think I was at risk of being exiled very soon, so I wouldnít take the risk of claiming vig as the SK. At least not right now. I claimed early because I act as an SK cop. As long as im not roleblocked, if my kill does not go through, Iíve shot the SK.

The SK can kill me, but then you obviously know I was the vig.
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Re: Mafia 138 - Hungry Hungry Hippo Mafia - Day 1 has Started!
« Reply #490 on: July 27, 2022, 09:54:32 pm »

I am almost certain the SK tries to avoid the D1 wagon, hoping that people are more focused on the scum hunting than trying to find them.
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Re: Mafia 138 - Hungry Hungry Hippo Mafia - Day 1 has Started!
« Reply #491 on: July 27, 2022, 09:55:38 pm »

Also SK killed Jimmmmm, which might give some info.
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Re: Mafia 138 - Hungry Hungry Hippo Mafia - Day 1 has Started!
« Reply #492 on: July 27, 2022, 11:12:35 pm »

I disagree that SK would be off wagon. If they thought Jack was scum they would vote. Why not? Being off wagon also draws attention. If you want to blend in, vote with the masses! So, the Jack votes/non-votes seem NAI to me.
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Re: Mafia 138 - Hungry Hungry Hippo Mafia - Day 1 has Started!
« Reply #493 on: July 27, 2022, 11:19:57 pm »

This is unfortunate.

Weíll be able to kill scum tomorrow, though.

Right?

Probably?

Anyway. Iím going to sleep. Might not wake up until after deadline.

Best of luck, folks.

This is the second time Eddie said this and he didn't answer my question about the first time. Then goes to sleep without changing his vote despite implying strongly that he thinks Jack is town. What's the message here?

Eddie, this is left over from Day 1. Can you respond?
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Re: Mafia 138 - Hungry Hungry Hippo Mafia - Day 1 has Started!
« Reply #494 on: July 27, 2022, 11:50:39 pm »

Vote: shraeye

Sheeping joth.

At least I have the confort in knowing that scum!me knows what town!me does, because I think I'd do this as SK too.

@MiX, Why did you vote Shraeye here? And can you explain your comment about what you would do as town/scum/SK? I don't understand it.
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Re: Mafia 138 - Hungry Hungry Hippo Mafia - Day 1 has Started!
« Reply #495 on: July 28, 2022, 12:17:21 am »

This is unfortunate.

Weíll be able to kill scum tomorrow, though.

Right?

Probably?

Anyway. Iím going to sleep. Might not wake up until after deadline.

Best of luck, folks.

This is the second time Eddie said this and he didn't answer my question about the first time. Then goes to sleep without changing his vote despite implying strongly that he thinks Jack is town. What's the message here?

Eddie, this is left over from Day 1. Can you respond?

Science.
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Re: Mafia 138 - Hungry Hungry Hippo Mafia - Day 1 has Started!
« Reply #496 on: July 28, 2022, 06:21:52 am »

Vote: shraeye

Sheeping joth.

At least I have the confort in knowing that scum!me knows what town!me does, because I think I'd do this as SK too.

@MiX, Why did you vote Shraeye here? And can you explain your comment about what you would do as town/scum/SK? I don't understand it.

I was sheeping joth since I liked his argument for me and shraeye being scummy, and I was waiting for shraeye to post. The comment to myself was just that me voting for someone while sheeping a reason that implies I'm scummy is something I tend to do a lot as scum too.
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Re: Mafia 138 - Hungry Hungry Hippo Mafia - Day 1 has Started!
« Reply #497 on: July 28, 2022, 08:39:26 am »

Vote: Shraeye

Iím open to moving to one or two other people, but the list is short. Iím heading to Ohio later today to visit friends this weekend so Iíll be a bit scarce, but itís not like anyone is burning up the thread right now. Catching a serial killer is hard, apparently. (I think this might be my first game that has an outright SK instead of a third party team!)
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Re: Mafia 138 - Hungry Hungry Hippo Mafia - Day 1 has Started!
« Reply #498 on: July 28, 2022, 09:23:39 am »

Also, today is my anniversary so hooray for debatepro and me! :)
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Re: Mafia 138 - Hungry Hungry Hippo Mafia - Day 1 has Started!
« Reply #499 on: July 28, 2022, 10:32:37 am »

shraeye do you suspect Didds of being the SK, or are you just telling her she's wrong?
Was waiting for Didds to respond...apparently she doesn't care to.
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