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Re: M137: Hatchling Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #200 on: February 16, 2022, 10:10:58 pm »

Vote: Dylan

This vote is lazy.

And completely in meta for you.
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Derphammering is when quickhammers go derp.

Faust has also been incredibly stubborn this game. In other news, it's hot in the summer, and water falls from the sky when it rains.


Mafia Record:
TOWN Wins: M3, M5, M6, M11, M17, M28, M32, M105, M108, M114, M118, M120, M122, DM1, DoM1, OZ2, RM45, RM47, RM48, RM49, RM55
TOWN Losses: M4, M7, M8, M9, M13, M14, M18, M31, M110, M111, M113, M117, M125, RM3, RM4, RM54
SCUM Wins: M2, M19, M23, M100, DM3, RM1, RM2, RM48, RM50
SCUM Losses: M15 (SK), M102 (Tr), OZ1, RM55

Total Wins: 30
Total Losses: 20

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Re: M137: Hatchling Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #201 on: February 16, 2022, 10:22:29 pm »

scolapasta, were you aware that the game had started?

Ah. Yes, i was aware. But a combination of busy and not knowing what to say made me not post. And then hadn't had s chance to catch up and post anything useful.
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Re: M137: Hatchling Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #202 on: February 16, 2022, 10:42:30 pm »

I’ve read throughout today but haven’t had much of a chance to contribute. I’ll have time tomorrow though.
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Derphammering is when quickhammers go derp.

Faust has also been incredibly stubborn this game. In other news, it's hot in the summer, and water falls from the sky when it rains.


Mafia Record:
TOWN Wins: M3, M5, M6, M11, M17, M28, M32, M105, M108, M114, M118, M120, M122, DM1, DoM1, OZ2, RM45, RM47, RM48, RM49, RM55
TOWN Losses: M4, M7, M8, M9, M13, M14, M18, M31, M110, M111, M113, M117, M125, RM3, RM4, RM54
SCUM Wins: M2, M19, M23, M100, DM3, RM1, RM2, RM48, RM50
SCUM Losses: M15 (SK), M102 (Tr), OZ1, RM55

Total Wins: 30
Total Losses: 20

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Re: M137: Hatchling Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #203 on: February 17, 2022, 12:51:33 am »

Galzria is town.
I never get the purpose of these posts. Except to boast about how you were right later, I suppose.
Why does it annoy you?
I just dislike information being revealed for no reason. It helps scum more than it helps us.

Unkown!MiX says town on Unkown!Galz
What information is being revealed here?
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Town:  14 wins, 14 losses (1 MVP)
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Re: M137: Hatchling Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #204 on: February 17, 2022, 12:55:08 am »

Galzria is town.
I never get the purpose of these posts. Except to boast about how you were right later, I suppose.
Why does it annoy you?
I just dislike information being revealed for no reason. It helps scum more than it helps us.

Unkown!MiX says town on Unkown!Galz
What information is being revealed here?
Well that's exactly the point isn't it? For scum neither of these are "unknown", so they get more information out of it to pick nightkills and potential misexiles.
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Re: M137: Hatchling Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #205 on: February 17, 2022, 12:57:50 am »

Vote: Dylan

This vote is lazy.

And completely in meta for you.
How much effort would you say went into your current vote?
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Re: M137: Hatchling Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #206 on: February 17, 2022, 01:07:14 am »

Vote: Dylan

This vote is lazy.

And completely in meta for you.
How much effort would you say went into your current vote?

More than went into yours.
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Derphammering is when quickhammers go derp.

Faust has also been incredibly stubborn this game. In other news, it's hot in the summer, and water falls from the sky when it rains.


Mafia Record:
TOWN Wins: M3, M5, M6, M11, M17, M28, M32, M105, M108, M114, M118, M120, M122, DM1, DoM1, OZ2, RM45, RM47, RM48, RM49, RM55
TOWN Losses: M4, M7, M8, M9, M13, M14, M18, M31, M110, M111, M113, M117, M125, RM3, RM4, RM54
SCUM Wins: M2, M19, M23, M100, DM3, RM1, RM2, RM48, RM50
SCUM Losses: M15 (SK), M102 (Tr), OZ1, RM55

Total Wins: 30
Total Losses: 20

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Re: M137: Hatchling Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #207 on: February 17, 2022, 01:08:02 am »

Galzria is town.
I never get the purpose of these posts. Except to boast about how you were right later, I suppose.
Why does it annoy you?
I just dislike information being revealed for no reason. It helps scum more than it helps us.

Unkown!MiX says town on Unkown!Galz
What information is being revealed here?
Well that's exactly the point isn't it? For scum neither of these are "unknown", so they get more information out of it to pick nightkills and potential misexiles.
Right. But... day 1? 24 hours in?
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Re: M137: Hatchling Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #208 on: February 17, 2022, 01:12:25 am »

Galzria is town.
I never get the purpose of these posts. Except to boast about how you were right later, I suppose.
Why does it annoy you?
I just dislike information being revealed for no reason. It helps scum more than it helps us.

Unkown!MiX says town on Unkown!Galz
What information is being revealed here?
Well that's exactly the point isn't it? For scum neither of these are "unknown", so they get more information out of it to pick nightkills and potential misexiles.

In the context that Swowl puts this, Faust is exactly correct. But if you have a read on MiX one way or another, then it’s not exactly an “unknown stating a town read on an unknown” … or rather, yes, it is, but you can still draw inference from that.

Further, neither MiX nor I will be unknown forever, which makes such statements, while lacking in substantial value now, significantly more valuable later on.
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Derphammering is when quickhammers go derp.

Faust has also been incredibly stubborn this game. In other news, it's hot in the summer, and water falls from the sky when it rains.


Mafia Record:
TOWN Wins: M3, M5, M6, M11, M17, M28, M32, M105, M108, M114, M118, M120, M122, DM1, DoM1, OZ2, RM45, RM47, RM48, RM49, RM55
TOWN Losses: M4, M7, M8, M9, M13, M14, M18, M31, M110, M111, M113, M117, M125, RM3, RM4, RM54
SCUM Wins: M2, M19, M23, M100, DM3, RM1, RM2, RM48, RM50
SCUM Losses: M15 (SK), M102 (Tr), OZ1, RM55

Total Wins: 30
Total Losses: 20

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Re: M137: Hatchling Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #209 on: February 17, 2022, 01:16:22 am »

scolapasta, were you aware that the game had started?

what information were you hoping to gain from this?
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Re: M137: Hatchling Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #210 on: February 17, 2022, 01:41:06 am »

Galzria is town.
I never get the purpose of these posts. Except to boast about how you were right later, I suppose.
Why does it annoy you?
I just dislike information being revealed for no reason. It helps scum more than it helps us.

Unkown!MiX says town on Unkown!Galz
What information is being revealed here?
Well that's exactly the point isn't it? For scum neither of these are "unknown", so they get more information out of it to pick nightkills and potential misexiles.
Right. But... day 1? 24 hours in?
Is this Groundhog Day mafia again and I am doomed to have the same argument over and over? Just look at what I said to gkrieg.
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Re: M137: Hatchling Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #211 on: February 17, 2022, 01:59:37 am »

Alright so either it's a useful piece of information and then it's useful to scum, or it's not and then it's not useful to anyone. There is no sweet spot in the middle where it somehow becomes useful to town.

assume you are talking about this post?
So then you think it is skummy to do what MiX did?
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Re: M137: Hatchling Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #212 on: February 17, 2022, 02:00:22 am »

that sounds horrible - let me re phrase...

Do you find it skumy when people do this?
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Re: M137: Hatchling Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #213 on: February 17, 2022, 02:46:04 am »

PPE: 10 because I started this post a while ago, got distracted, then came back to it

e is cleverly avoiding answering my question.

Nothing clever about it.

Question was about why I stated my vote was OMGUS?

Because you had just voted me.

In my head you had voted MiX and joined the "pile on MiX for no good reason" bandwagon. You then voted for me. I was looking for someone to vote for because voting is good and I thought the combo was a good reason

The follow up was just stream of conscious because I play (almost) exclusively from my phone so I state things as I remember them. And I did not remember things correctly.
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Re: M137: Hatchling Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #214 on: February 17, 2022, 02:48:44 am »

Vote: Dylan

This vote is lazy.

And completely in meta for you.
How much effort would you say went into your current vote?

More than went into yours.

That is verifiably false. Your vote included writing out 8 characters, faust's vote has 11 characters.
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Re: M137: Hatchling Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #215 on: February 17, 2022, 02:54:16 am »

Do you find it skumy when people do this?
I find it anti-town. Whether it's scummy depend on context and the individual's meta.
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Re: M137: Hatchling Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #216 on: February 17, 2022, 03:02:09 am »

scolapasta, were you aware that the game had started?

what information were you hoping to gain from this?
How intentional the lurking was.
Last two games I think scola has come under a lot of pressure early on for his first post or two, so I can understand him wanting to hold back a bit and not post early on, as either alignment. But to stay out of the game for a whole 24 hours...
I was kind of expecting a "oh, I forgot this had started" opening post, bit like your one.
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Re: M137: Hatchling Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #217 on: February 17, 2022, 03:57:42 am »

Ok, a case on e.

The follow up was just stream of conscious because I play (almost) exclusively from my phone so I state things as I remember them. And I did not remember things correctly.

The thing is, MiX's follow-up question was really nuanced and not even obviously directed at e. Like, it was directed at e because it was a reply to his OMGUS vote. Here it is again, including e's answer:

Vote: infangthief

Because OMGUS is a pretty solid case at this point

Do you have a reason to think infang would vote town in RVS as scum?

That's a good point. We should flip you so that way we can ask questions like this on D2

So somehow e noticed that it was a question to him, but didn't notice that it was in the context of him voting me for OMGUS.
Ok, I can believe that - e's later confusion about whether I'd been voting for e or MiX seemed genuine.

But then the problem is that MiX's question was rather nuanced; it took me a fair amount of jumping through "other-people's-point-of-view" hoops in order to work out what relevance it had. And I think such hoop jumping would be needed by anyone.

Unless... unless that person is scum and knows alignments. Then there is an obvious, non-nuanced meaning, and allows e to answer it without needing to do hoop-jumping.
So I think e is scum and MiX is town.

And another thing. Isn't the natural, towny response to MiX's question "we should flip fang", rather than "we should flip [MiX]"?
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Re: M137: Hatchling Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #218 on: February 17, 2022, 06:13:30 am »

On the other hand, e has seemed remarkably calm through a huge wagon growing on him (4 votes now I think?). That's towny for most people. Anyone know e's meta in this kind of thing?
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Re: M137: Hatchling Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #219 on: February 17, 2022, 06:16:07 am »

What do people think of Didds this game?
Town vibes.
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Re: M137: Hatchling Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #220 on: February 17, 2022, 07:22:50 am »

On the other hand, e has seemed remarkably calm through a huge wagon growing on him (4 votes now I think?). That's towny for most people. Anyone know e's meta in this kind of thing?

e is savvy enough to sidestep the wagon freakout tell.
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Re: M137: Hatchling Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #221 on: February 17, 2022, 07:35:20 am »

There's a wagon on e? Haven't noticed. Have we even gotten a VC yet?
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Re: M137: Hatchling Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #222 on: February 17, 2022, 07:37:05 am »

There's a wagon on e? Haven't noticed. Have we even gotten a VC yet?
How's the wagon on you going, do you think?
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Re: M137: Hatchling Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #223 on: February 17, 2022, 07:50:11 am »

There's a wagon on e? Haven't noticed. Have we even gotten a VC yet?
How's the wagon on you going, do you think?

I forgot. I think joth's still voting me?
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Re: M137: Hatchling Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #224 on: February 17, 2022, 08:13:45 am »

Oh, hey Galzy and Swowl!  How are things?

Any thoughts beyond tussling with faust?
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