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Re: BM 34: Groundhog's Day Mafia
« Reply #525 on: January 24, 2022, 11:59:39 am »

I mean unless dayvig happens in the discord and so WCD has done her shot and it's just joth not around.

But I'd still think WCD would tell us here.
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Re: BM 34: Groundhog's Day Mafia
« Reply #526 on: January 24, 2022, 12:00:04 pm »

Diiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiids!
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Faust has also been incredibly stubborn this game. In other news, it's hot in the summer, and water falls from the sky when it rains.


Mafia Record:
TOWN Wins: M3, M5, M6, M11, M17, M28, M32, M105, M108, M114, M118, M120, M122, DM1, DoM1, OZ2, RM45, RM47, RM48, RM49, RM55
TOWN Losses: M4, M7, M8, M9, M13, M14, M18, M31, M110, M111, M113, M117, M125, RM3, RM4, RM54
SCUM Wins: M2, M19, M23, M100, DM3, RM1, RM2, RM48, RM50
SCUM Losses: M15 (SK), M102 (Tr), OZ1, RM55

Total Wins: 30
Total Losses: 20

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Re: BM 34: Groundhog's Day Mafia
« Reply #527 on: January 24, 2022, 12:00:24 pm »

I mean unless dayvig happens in the discord and so WCD has done her shot and it's just joth not around.

But I'd still think WCD would tell us here.

Only hope at this point.
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Derphammering is when quickhammers go derp.

Faust has also been incredibly stubborn this game. In other news, it's hot in the summer, and water falls from the sky when it rains.


Mafia Record:
TOWN Wins: M3, M5, M6, M11, M17, M28, M32, M105, M108, M114, M118, M120, M122, DM1, DoM1, OZ2, RM45, RM47, RM48, RM49, RM55
TOWN Losses: M4, M7, M8, M9, M13, M14, M18, M31, M110, M111, M113, M117, M125, RM3, RM4, RM54
SCUM Wins: M2, M19, M23, M100, DM3, RM1, RM2, RM48, RM50
SCUM Losses: M15 (SK), M102 (Tr), OZ1, RM55

Total Wins: 30
Total Losses: 20

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Re: BM 34: Groundhog's Day Mafia
« Reply #528 on: January 24, 2022, 12:03:11 pm »

I mean we could be wrong about how NKs happen too. But based on (second) D2 votes, I doubt it. Which means you did not save whoever it was that night, and who knows about last night.
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Re: BM 34: Groundhog's Day Mafia
« Reply #529 on: January 24, 2022, 12:05:43 pm »

I mean unless dayvig happens in the discord and so WCD has done her shot and it's just joth not around.

But I'd still think WCD would tell us here.

Only hope at this point.

Well, and not only hope. Worst here is just that we no-exiled, which means we’re in ExLo tomorrow with no additional information, but at least the game continues.
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Derphammering is when quickhammers go derp.

Faust has also been incredibly stubborn this game. In other news, it's hot in the summer, and water falls from the sky when it rains.


Mafia Record:
TOWN Wins: M3, M5, M6, M11, M17, M28, M32, M105, M108, M114, M118, M120, M122, DM1, DoM1, OZ2, RM45, RM47, RM48, RM49, RM55
TOWN Losses: M4, M7, M8, M9, M13, M14, M18, M31, M110, M111, M113, M117, M125, RM3, RM4, RM54
SCUM Wins: M2, M19, M23, M100, DM3, RM1, RM2, RM48, RM50
SCUM Losses: M15 (SK), M102 (Tr), OZ1, RM55

Total Wins: 30
Total Losses: 20

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Re: BM 34: Groundhog's Day Mafia
« Reply #530 on: January 24, 2022, 12:12:46 pm »

Sorry guys. I had the deadline wrong in my head. But sadly that is THREAD LOCKED. Vote count coming soon.
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Re: BM 34: Groundhog's Day Mafia
« Reply #531 on: January 24, 2022, 12:17:59 pm »

Blissfully unaware that the day is repeating, the townspeople do exactly what they did the first day.

No one was exiled.


Vote Count 1.3

Galzria (3): WestCoastDidds, EFHW, Swowl
mathdude (1): Awaclus
scolapasta (2): MiX, gkreig
gkreig (1): scolapasta
MiX (1): Galzria

Not voting (1): mathdude

With 9 alive, it takes 5 to exile.

Night 1 begins now and ends in 48 hours.
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Re: BM 34: Groundhog's Day Mafia
« Reply #532 on: January 26, 2022, 12:20:34 pm »

Okay, campers, rise and shine, and don't forget your booties 'cause it's cooooold out there today.

It's coooold out there every day. What is this, Miami Beach?

Not hardly. And you know, you can expect hazardous travel later today with that, you know, that, uh, that blizzard thing.

That blizzard - thing. That blizzard - thing. Oh, well, here's the report! The National Weather Service is calling for a "big blizzard thing!"

Yessss, they are. But you know, there's another reason why today is especially exciting.

Especially cold!

Especially cold, okay, but the big question on everybody's lips...

 - On their chapped lips...

 - On their chapped lips, right: Do ya think Phil is gonna come out and see his shadow?

Punxsutawney Phil!

Thats right, woodchuck-chuckers - it's

GROUNDHOG DAY!


Day 1 Begins Now

Vote Count 1.0

Not voting:  MiX, mathdude, WestCoastDidds, Galzria, scolapasta, Awaclus, EFHW, gkrieg, Swowl

With 9 alive, it takes 5 to exile.

THREAD UNLOCKED

Day 1 begins now and will end one week from today, February 1 at 12:20 pm forum time.
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Re: BM 34: Groundhog's Day Mafia
« Reply #533 on: January 26, 2022, 12:22:36 pm »

Ok dayvig y u no kill yesterday?
Also, vote: joth
Reason: give us something useful!
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Re: BM 34: Groundhog's Day Mafia
« Reply #534 on: January 26, 2022, 12:55:58 pm »

I am SO sorry! We had this kind of huge covid debacle at school that started on Sunday night and got really confusing on Monday and created an onslaught of student email and I *completely* forgot. Like not even an inkling if a memory.

I will shoot whenever ready! I feel more confident that scola’s claim was scummier than MiX, so I’m leaning toward shooting him.
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Re: BM 34: Groundhog's Day Mafia
« Reply #535 on: January 26, 2022, 12:57:52 pm »

Actually, let’s just see what happens. It will reset the day so no loss…and I think we’re all kind of weary of this

Dayvig: Scola
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Re: BM 34: Groundhog's Day Mafia
« Reply #536 on: January 26, 2022, 12:59:14 pm »

I'm very curious to see what happens!
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Re: BM 34: Groundhog's Day Mafia
« Reply #537 on: January 26, 2022, 01:00:21 pm »

THREAD LOCKED
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Re: BM 34: Groundhog's Day Mafia
« Reply #538 on: January 26, 2022, 01:09:50 pm »

Phil Collins awakens to the unexpected blissful silence of not hearing that same thing on the radio over and over again.

He's done it! He's escaped the loop. And all it took was murdering a lot of people, as a member of the mafia, which he was all along.


Day 2 begins now.

Game Over. The Mafia wins.

Galzria, the Puxsutawney neurologist and odd-night doctor, was killed Night 1.

Swowl, insurance salesman and even-night jailkeeper Ned Ryerson, was exiled Day 1.

Gkrieg, even-night bus driver Larry, was killed Night 1.

EFHW, double voter Buster Green, was killed Night 1.

scolapasta, role cop and producer Rita, was killed Day 1.

mathdude and Awaclus, neighbors/newlyweds Debbie and Fred, were endgamed.

WestCoastDidds, dayvig and weatherman Phil Connors, and MiX, roleblocker and groundhog Puxcatawney Phil, win the game!

THREAD UNLOCKED
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Re: BM 34: Groundhog's Day Mafia
« Reply #539 on: January 26, 2022, 01:11:43 pm »

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Derphammering is when quickhammers go derp.

Faust has also been incredibly stubborn this game. In other news, it's hot in the summer, and water falls from the sky when it rains.


Mafia Record:
TOWN Wins: M3, M5, M6, M11, M17, M28, M32, M105, M108, M114, M118, M120, M122, DM1, DoM1, OZ2, RM45, RM47, RM48, RM49, RM55
TOWN Losses: M4, M7, M8, M9, M13, M14, M18, M31, M110, M111, M113, M117, M125, RM3, RM4, RM54
SCUM Wins: M2, M19, M23, M100, DM3, RM1, RM2, RM48, RM50
SCUM Losses: M15 (SK), M102 (Tr), OZ1, RM55

Total Wins: 30
Total Losses: 20

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Re: BM 34: Groundhog's Day Mafia
« Reply #540 on: January 26, 2022, 01:12:13 pm »

So yeah. I mean, two things going on here. One, the setup was more scum-sided than I anticipated and I should have buffed up town more.

But also, town no-exiled twice. Hard to imagine town ever winning a game that way. And scum managed to eliminate town's most powerful role on night 1.

So, you know, you can't blame me for everything.

You were supposed to get half of the flips -- the ones from exiles -- which I thought would give enough info to make the game playable. And scola had a secret secondary ability that would tell him if players were dead if he copped them. But then you guys only ever managed one exile so you only ever got one flip.
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Re: BM 34: Groundhog's Day Mafia
« Reply #541 on: January 26, 2022, 01:12:25 pm »

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Re: BM 34: Groundhog's Day Mafia
« Reply #542 on: January 26, 2022, 01:17:35 pm »

So yeah. I mean, two things going on here. One, the setup was more scum-sided than I anticipated and I should have buffed up town more.

But also, town no-exiled twice. Hard to imagine town ever winning a game that way. And scum managed to eliminate town's most powerful role on night 1.

So, you know, you can't blame me for everything.

You were supposed to get half of the flips -- the ones from exiles -- which I thought would give enough info to make the game playable. And scola had a secret secondary ability that would tell him if players were dead if he copped them. But then you guys only ever managed one exile so you only ever got one flip.

I actually thought the setup was really inspired and has a TON of potential nuance. In a non-BM more open setup where the general mechanic is known, there’s a lot to play around with here. Clearly throwing away our only known means of obtaining information TWICE was never going to result in a town win.
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Derphammering is when quickhammers go derp.

Faust has also been incredibly stubborn this game. In other news, it's hot in the summer, and water falls from the sky when it rains.


Mafia Record:
TOWN Wins: M3, M5, M6, M11, M17, M28, M32, M105, M108, M114, M118, M120, M122, DM1, DoM1, OZ2, RM45, RM47, RM48, RM49, RM55
TOWN Losses: M4, M7, M8, M9, M13, M14, M18, M31, M110, M111, M113, M117, M125, RM3, RM4, RM54
SCUM Wins: M2, M19, M23, M100, DM3, RM1, RM2, RM48, RM50
SCUM Losses: M15 (SK), M102 (Tr), OZ1, RM55

Total Wins: 30
Total Losses: 20

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Re: BM 34: Groundhog's Day Mafia -- GAME OVER, mafia wins flawlessly
« Reply #543 on: January 26, 2022, 01:20:20 pm »

My big regret is that I don't get the feeling the game ended up being particularly fun for anyone involved. So for that, I aopologize.

If I had it to do again, I probably would have instituted a mandatory plurality exile. It honestly didn't occur to me that would be an issue.
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Re: BM 34: Groundhog's Day Mafia -- GAME OVER, mafia wins flawlessly
« Reply #544 on: January 26, 2022, 01:20:44 pm »

Also, I really need to have a co-mod. I am awful at giving enough vote counts.
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Re: BM 34: Groundhog's Day Mafia -- GAME OVER, mafia wins flawlessly
« Reply #545 on: January 26, 2022, 01:27:04 pm »

Oh wow. At first I was really upset at WCD for just up and dayvigging me so early in the day.... ah, but she was scum, so that explains it.

Yes, this past night, I checked gkrieg and confirmed his claim and that he was dead.

I guess if WCD had dayvigged the day before, we would have made it a little longer, as she woudln't have still had the shot. (did you purposefully not shoot galz since you knew he was already dead? or were you legit busy)

Here's one aspect of my limited experience maybe. Once I learned WCD was dayvig, I assumed she was town because that seems to be a town role. (too powerful for scum to have NK and a day kill)

Overall, I enjoyed the game and loved the repeated D1 setup. (one really nice thing is that it allowed dead people to still participate). I think it's on us that we did not exile first D1 or third D1.
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Re: BM 34: Groundhog's Day Mafia -- GAME OVER, mafia wins flawlessly
« Reply #546 on: January 26, 2022, 01:30:14 pm »

Oh yeah, I purposely flaunted expectations. I gave town a rolecop, scum a dayvig, and I made the main character scum.
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Re: BM 34: Groundhog's Day Mafia -- GAME OVER, mafia wins flawlessly
« Reply #547 on: January 26, 2022, 01:30:51 pm »

And of course all the even-night roles were just a troll, there was no way to trigger Day 2.
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Re: BM 34: Groundhog's Day Mafia -- GAME OVER, mafia wins flawlessly
« Reply #548 on: January 26, 2022, 01:31:10 pm »

It does feel a little scum sided with both the roleblocker and the dayvig.

(I am surprised that Mix didn't block me on the last night)

Town only really had a double voter, a doctor, and a role cop. Neighbors seems basically close to VT (since they're not masons), and Even night as well.

(was there ever anything that was going to get us to D2? I assume not)

Also, if dead, would PRs not work? That was another assumption I had.
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Re: BM 34: Groundhog's Day Mafia -- GAME OVER, mafia wins flawlessly
« Reply #549 on: January 26, 2022, 01:38:30 pm »

they wouldn't.

btw, neighbors where both are town was another intentional subversion of expectations. I think every time I've ever done neighbors there's been a scum in the neighborhood.
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