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[Swowl]

I am here, but I have no clue what is going on.
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[Swowl]

completely missed it took 6 to exile me yesterday.
I also agree this seems to be a figure the set up out vs a figure out who is skum game, at this point.

Who thinks we are just trapped in Day 1 forever?

[scolapasta]

OK, so everyone can post then. And swowl IC (unless we don't believe the flip).

Someone's vote did not count on second D1. That is likely related to setup, but also could be a role like mathdude's "drunk".

I agree with the solve the setup aspect, but isn't that often true of at least bastard games?

So not sure where this really leaves us.

[scolapasta]

Once we could try (but risky) is have 4 people (that were not on swowl, if we want to assume one of those were the original NK) vote for someone we suspect and then have swowl vote as #5. Of course one of those votes could be NK#2, but it could give us something useful info?

And yes, I get that info may be useful to scum as well. But so does mass claim - i.e. we're at a point were town gaining info is useful info for some scum info gaining risk, no?

[scolapasta]

Galz why did you choose to claim so early?

[mathdude]

I see no indication that Swowl was exiled.

The closest indication is that there was a vote count with him at 5 indicating it wasn't the end of the day, then one with him at 6 and the day ended. It shows a town flip, but doesn't mention Swowl.

Mr Mod... did Swowl get exiled?

The 6 person vote / flip did specifically say he was exiled.

It did not. It says "Ned Ryerson, life insurance salesman has been exiled". It does not say Swowl was exiled. We are assuming, based on normal mafia games, that this is the case. But it is an assumption.

Swowl, are you Ned the salesman?

[scolapasta]

I see no indication that Swowl was exiled.

The closest indication is that there was a vote count with him at 5 indicating it wasn't the end of the day, then one with him at 6 and the day ended. It shows a town flip, but doesn't mention Swowl.

Mr Mod... did Swowl get exiled?

The 6 person vote / flip did specifically say he was exiled.

It did not. It says "Ned Ryerson, life insurance salesman has been exiled". It does not say Swowl was exiled. We are assuming, based on normal mafia games, that this is the case. But it is an assumption.

Swowl, are you Ned the salesman?

OK, true, you made me go back and reread it again. And I see how this could be one of those "not exactly true" assumptions. But I doubt it is?

[MiX]

Before Swowl reveals the truth, I have to admit, I think math is onto something here. I find it more likely than not that Swowl isn't Ned.

[EFHW]

I think we should just exile Galzria.

[scolapasta]

EFHW, do you not believe the doctor claim?

[jotheonah]

Mr Mod... did Swowl get exiled?

I don't know what you're talking about, this is day 1. However, if there were an end-of-day post, I would have just edited it to be more inline with expetations.

[scolapasta]

OK, for those who haven't gone back, the post has been edited to clarify that Swowl was exiled. (and was Ned).

[Swowl]

Just to clarify what has now also been clarified. Yes, I am Ned and I am a traveling salesman.

[Swowl]

There is also no modifier to my role that says I should take more votes to be exiled.

[Swowl]

If we were to do it, this would be the order:

Awaclus
Math
WCD
EFHW
GK
MiX
Pasta

[Swowl]

I also think that the people who are discussing game mechanics are probably? on the right track.

Exile Town and they stick around but, assuming their vote does not count, you essentially just get this "Ghost IC" or a collection of them I suppose depending on how long it has been in the game. Or maybe it is just the next day? Or whatever, who knows. Following that concept...

Day 1 there was no exile. Because of that, we assume that Night 1 there was actually "a kill" and that the person whom was killed was someone on my wagon that was *not* Pasta (just because they did hammer and it counted). So, if this is true, then one of Galz, Math, Awaclus, MiX, GK was the target night 1 and their vote did not count.

From a balance perspective.... That layout kind of makes sense I guess. Like on one hand you get the ghost IC but on the other hand Skum assumedly knows all the votes that count vs not count.

Maybes?

[Galzria]

If we’re at 6 “Alive” then (assuming I didn’t Doctor successfully 1-N1 or 2-N1, which there doesn’t technically seem to be a way to tell), it would take 4 “Real votes” to Exile. Which would mean in a traditional 9 player game (7 town, 2 Scum), we would be in Mylo right now.

[Swowl]

It is also weird that the Vc actually says (6) people were voting yet it only took 5 to exile.
It’s a Bm but normally i think it would read 5 still right?

[Swowl]

Nope nvm realized it as I’m typing it - if this is the gimmick that would make it too easy to figure out who could vote.

[Swowl]

If we’re at 6 “Alive” then (assuming I didn’t Doctor successfully 1-N1 or 2-N1, which there doesn’t technically seem to be a way to tell), it would take 4 “Real votes” to Exile. Which would mean in a traditional 9 player game (7 town, 2 Scum), we would be in Mylo right now.

Decent point.
Lets do the claims.
I doubt it is as simple as this but I think we can discern a decent amount of info from claims… and the thread be dead this game anyways so at least we’ll have something fun to do

[Swowl]

If we’re at 6 “Alive” then (assuming I didn’t Doctor successfully 1-N1 or 2-N1, which there doesn’t technically seem to be a way to tell), it would take 4 “Real votes” to Exile. Which would mean in a traditional 9 player game (7 town, 2 Scum), we would be in Mylo right now.

While this is fair, MYLO principles do not apply. We normally would not exile to get a flip at night and move forward. We have no reason to assume we will get a flip at night. We should exile today.

[Swowl]

So decent point as in, yes we are not in a good spot. Not "we should not exile because it mylo"

[Galzria]

So decent point as in, yes we are not in a good spot. Not "we should not exile because it mylo"

Sorry, wasn’t trying to imply that we should - I just wanted to make sure that our most likely situation based on what’s known is fully public knowledge.

[Swowl]

Thinking it over because I got nothing but time. New order:


Math
EFHW
Awaclus
WCD
GK
MiX
Pasta

[EFHW]

EFHW, do you not believe the doctor claim?

I do not.