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We should use

Chatzy
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Discord
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Google Chat
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Re: RIP Quicktopic
« Reply #25 on: October 22, 2021, 06:28:41 pm »

I've now managed to post my QTs... it ended up being quite a bit! No worries if you cannot make it through, Jimmmmm!

I've done my best to remove the personal QTs that weren't released to the public.

And don't worry, I will make sure to archive anything BSG-related. It will be transferred to whatever platform we are going to use next.

Whoa, that's gonna take a while. No problem at all though.

I'm not involved in BSG (and I don't imagine replacing in if that becomes an option), so you can PM me all the BSG links if you want and I'll take care of them.
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Re: RIP Quicktopic
« Reply #26 on: October 23, 2021, 10:10:34 am »

Robz/Galzria M31: https://www.quicktopic.com/50/H/XwuYYrFNBa52g

Villains M129: https://www.quicktopic.com/53/H/8ZZG4DZBWpX

Mafia 2 mafia thread: https://www.quicktopic.com/48/H/W3ydbNNQ7hD4J

Robz, you should post these in the Other thread. You can dump a heap like others have if you want.

Oops! I'm bad at following basic instructions.
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Re: RIP Quicktopic
« Reply #27 on: October 24, 2021, 06:04:43 am »

If I create an interface for it, would some of you be interested in helping organise the QTs? That is,
  • Creating groups (ie one group per game)
  • Assigning QTs to groups
  • Deleting spam
  • Marking QTs as done
If we can get it done before the site goes down, it could be useful for checking if there are some missing that should be included. There are already over 1000 QTs so it'll take a bit of an effort, and I'm probably not going to do much of the organising myself, at least for a while.
Maybe eventually I'll add the game threads as well and create a full f.ds Mafia archive.
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Re: RIP Quicktopic
« Reply #28 on: November 02, 2021, 03:28:18 pm »

I made a virtual room in Chatzy to test it out, and I think it has the features we need.

http://us25.chatzy.com/88177764337625
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Re: RIP Quicktopic
« Reply #29 on: November 02, 2021, 03:44:05 pm »

I made a virtual room in Chatzy to test it out, and I think it has the features we need.

http://us25.chatzy.com/88177764337625

From what I can see, there are two restrictions to the free version that might be problematic:
- free rooms have a maximum capacity of 10 people. That's fine for most things, but will be a problem for speccys.
- it's not possible to access the entire chat history. This is a bigger issue.
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Re: RIP Quicktopic
« Reply #30 on: November 03, 2021, 02:48:13 pm »

I saw what you did. It's confusing, because they say the entire Bible would be 5 KB and your couple screens was 13. I was able to see everything by clicking a bar at the top. Is that available to you, or just me because I made the room?

The 10 person limit is a problem for all QTs if we want to be able to share them at the end of a game. I think it's ambiguous if it means ten posters, ten people at a time, or ten people ever, even if not posting. I'm looking for a way to ask.
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Re: RIP Quicktopic
« Reply #31 on: November 03, 2021, 04:56:08 pm »

hate to be basic on this - but just a simple Google Chat could be a good alt for the time being if we need a filler.

- Free to make a gmail account. No personal info needed to make the QTs, just the email
- Can make private threads and 1v1 threads and mod threads
- posts are time stamped and signed
- Can share everything via html posts.

It's not an ideal setting but it would work.

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Re: RIP Quicktopic
« Reply #32 on: November 03, 2021, 05:13:38 pm »

I mean, if we are listing out features, a discord server for managing the private conversations would allow:

- Restrict visibility of private channels (not just who can read it, but who can even see that it exists), so private messages are good.
- Channels can be sorted into groups for easy navigation (All threads related to each game can be grouped together and completely hidden if you aren't involved; I imagine this would be nice for the QoL of mods)
- Unlimited (or at least practically unlimited) post history
- Timestamped posts
- Can restrict edit permissions
- Can't change or spoof who posted what
- No limitations on # of people in a channel (ala speccy problem of chatzy)
- All you need is a free email account to sign up for a free discord account (technically less restrictive than having to have a gmail account)
- You can access discord through a browser, desktop application, or mobile app.
- You can manage notifications on a per channel basis

The one big con I can see that I just thought of is that the server creator has permanent visibility on every channel, so either someone would need to use an alt account or have a friend outside of our mafia community host the server. I guess I need to double check to make sure someone who is able to create new channels and manage them (in order to mod, unless we just have someone that is willing to do the channel setup for game mods) would be able to still have other channels hidden from them so they can play as well.
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Re: RIP Quicktopic
« Reply #33 on: November 03, 2021, 05:25:34 pm »

EFHW, do you want to test if you can lock the chatzy and then reopen it?
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Re: RIP Quicktopic
« Reply #34 on: November 03, 2021, 05:27:38 pm »

I made a virtual room in Chatzy to test it out, and I think it has the features we need.

http://us25.chatzy.com/88177764337625


We need like 5 more people to go to get us over 10 to see what happens…
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Re: RIP Quicktopic
« Reply #35 on: November 03, 2021, 07:58:33 pm »

Need 3 more now.
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Re: RIP Quicktopic
« Reply #36 on: November 03, 2021, 08:20:50 pm »

I looked at Google chat. I can open it in my EFHW account and stay logged in to my regular account on other tabs. You can't invite people by sharing the link. Everyone you invite has to have an email address. So I can't share the space I made unless I know some emails. I couldn't find a way to open and close the space to posts.
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Re: RIP Quicktopic
« Reply #37 on: November 03, 2021, 09:35:52 pm »

Need one more on Chatzy.
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Re: RIP Quicktopic
« Reply #38 on: November 03, 2021, 10:54:43 pm »

I closed the chat on Chatzy. Someone try to read it and report back if you still can even if you can't post.
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Re: RIP Quicktopic
« Reply #39 on: November 03, 2021, 10:57:55 pm »

A message comes up: "The chat has been closed temporarily.

You must wait for somebody with permission to reopen the chat before you can join."

You can still read it.
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Re: RIP Quicktopic
« Reply #40 on: November 04, 2021, 05:32:52 am »

I had to dig a little bit, but it seems that Chatzy deletes rooms after 14 days of inactivity (see Chatzy FAQ). That means we'd have to create our own archive.
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Re: RIP Quicktopic
« Reply #41 on: November 04, 2021, 05:35:26 am »

I mean, if we are listing out features, a discord server for managing the private conversations would allow:
What formatting options does Discord allow?
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Re: RIP Quicktopic
« Reply #42 on: November 04, 2021, 08:42:17 am »

I can still see the locked chat but not post
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« Reply #43 on: November 04, 2021, 10:03:12 am »

I had to dig a little bit, but it seems that Chatzy deletes rooms after 14 days of inactivity (see Chatzy FAQ). That means we'd have to create our own archive.

Or just build a bot that posts on all our rooms every 13 days.
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« Reply #44 on: November 04, 2021, 10:03:53 am »

We can have it say things like "I love your site click here to buy sunglasses and prostitutes", just for old time's sake.
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Re: RIP Quicktopic
« Reply #45 on: November 04, 2021, 10:43:45 am »

On # of users, btw, I found this from the inactive session popup:

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In a free room, the timeout depends on the number of visitors in the room:

60 minutes if there are 6 or fewer visitors in the room
50, 40, 30 or 20 minutes, respectively, if there are 7, 8, 9 or 10 visitors
15 minutes if people are waiting in line to enter the room (more than 10 visitors).

So this confirms that the 10 is for active users at a time.
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Re: RIP Quicktopic
« Reply #46 on: November 04, 2021, 05:44:55 pm »

I mean, if we are listing out features, a discord server for managing the private conversations would allow:
What formatting options does Discord allow?

Off the top of my head, you can bold, italics, and underline at least. Not sure if you can use color though.
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Re: RIP Quicktopic
« Reply #47 on: November 09, 2021, 07:38:04 pm »

joth, maybe put up a poll so we can make a decision?
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« Reply #48 on: December 01, 2021, 08:33:51 pm »

joth, maybe put up a poll so we can make a decision?

done.
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Re: RIP Quicktopic
« Reply #49 on: December 05, 2021, 10:24:09 am »

I mean, if we are listing out features, a discord server for managing the private conversations would allow:

- Restrict visibility of private channels (not just who can read it, but who can even see that it exists), so private messages are good.
- Channels can be sorted into groups for easy navigation (All threads related to each game can be grouped together and completely hidden if you aren't involved; I imagine this would be nice for the QoL of mods)
- Unlimited (or at least practically unlimited) post history
- Timestamped posts
- Can restrict edit permissions
- Can't change or spoof who posted what
- No limitations on # of people in a channel (ala speccy problem of chatzy)
- All you need is a free email account to sign up for a free discord account (technically less restrictive than having to have a gmail account)
- You can access discord through a browser, desktop application, or mobile app.
- You can manage notifications on a per channel basis

The one big con I can see that I just thought of is that the server creator has permanent visibility on every channel, so either someone would need to use an alt account or have a friend outside of our mafia community host the server. I guess I need to double check to make sure someone who is able to create new channels and manage them (in order to mod, unless we just have someone that is willing to do the channel setup for game mods) would be able to still have other channels hidden from them so they can play as well.

I'm pretty sure I'm not going to play any more mafia games, but I like reading them and like this community. I also have a fair amount of experience with being a discord admin, so I'd be willing to create a server for this and do any maintenance as needed. Let me know if that helps anybody's decision.
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