I don't know whether or not this would be something scum!faust would have noticed, but I am starting to see a potential scum narrative for his play so far. Propose revealing mayor/drunk to reveal the player that would likely be IC later so they could be killed before it matters. When two people claimed, back off of the plan to verify the ICs so that scum could leave them alive just long enough to throw suspicion at the claims (given the potential for town to have an insane cop, that is potentially another way we are made to look sus) and then when town feels the need to verify our claims, one of us could be roleblocked and framed to look like a liar. Obviously there are several assumptions in this, but it's the best case I've come up with so far.
If I am following you, you think that my plan as scum was:
- remove 2 townies from the exilepool today
- use the scum Roleblocker in a way that potentially helps town (by allowing a Drunk to vote)
- profit by having one of the two ICs that I created no longer be an IC, but instead in the position they would have been without my plan, and the other one still an IC
I mean... I like to think that I can come up with better plans.
- The fact two people claimed mayor probably wasn't what you would have expected to happen, thinking only one or the other being in the setup would be more likely
- If we ran up a wagon on a mayor we would claim before being exiled and then likely be tested and verified IC anyway, so they ultimately weren't in the exile pool anyway
- Say N1 you roleblock drunk!me and then we go into D2 and want to officially prove Joseph and I are IC. We vote at L-3 and surprise, the exile goes through, and now the assumption would have been one of us lied, so the next day town would be figuring out who to exile between Joseph and I instead of actually finding the real scum.
- If the game is still going D4 because we haven't found scum and we haven't actually publicly proven our IC status beyond just people believing the claims, there's a case to be made that at that point you should absolutely have Joseph and I prove it just to make sure neither of us is lying. Using the roleblocker that day to frame us and get a late game misexile of what otherwise should have been an IC would be really good.
Right, so.
It's probably good to make an IC, right?
So we need a Mayor/Drunk to claim please.
Actually all of them need to claim, otherwise this won't work.
What was "this"?
Testing the claims.
But then they claimed and you said no testing should be done right? What changed?
That was always my intention, but until the claims I had to maintain the idea that we would verify claims in order to discourage fakeclaims.
The fact you did actually plan in advance to not verify the claims could corroborate the narrative here since you had thought through the whole thing and didn't actually want to create an IC. Sus out the claim, kill the IC N1 instead of letting them make it to the late game when an IC most helps the PoE. As it is, getting two claims and not proving them would be even better for you because you could kill one and leave the other alive and let them be framed later.
Either way, now that I've point out that scum could manipulate our proof on later days, we either need to do it today or just agree that Joseph and I are ICs for the game since any failed vote tests have a decent chance of being a false scum result. I strongly believe we should test now rather than putting it off. If anyone hits X-3 in the next 24ish hours after I get up in the morning, I'll vote, and hopefully Joseph will follow it up, and that would at least rule out the mayor+scum possibility, and if we want to take it further we can coordinate.
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