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Re: M135: Among Us Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #1475 on: September 30, 2021, 04:09:43 am »

or personal bias I guess is the more correct term . But still, you are basing the whole thing on your read that II is skum
That's clearly not true. If anything, I am biased towards thinking that e is scum; I mean, I was voting for the guy before the claim. I had not made up my mind about iguana.
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Re: M135: Among Us Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #1476 on: September 30, 2021, 04:11:35 am »

or personal bias I guess is the more correct term . But still, you are basing the whole thing on your read that II is skum
That's clearly not true. If anything, I am biased towards thinking that e is scum; I mean, I was voting for the guy before the claim. I had not made up my mind about iguana.

need to read to make sure that is true. but if it is, yeah that is fair.
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Re: M135: Among Us Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #1477 on: September 30, 2021, 04:13:18 am »

I mean my argument is thus:

If iguana is scum, then we should exile e first, because scum wants us to exile iguana.

If iguana is town, then we should exile e, because... iguana is town.

So no matter iguana's alignment it's best to exile e.
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Re: M135: Among Us Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #1478 on: September 30, 2021, 04:14:29 am »

I mean my argument is thus:

If iguana is scum, then we should exile e first, because scum wants us to exile iguana.

If iguana is town, then we should exile e, because... iguana is town.

So no matter iguana's alignment it's best to exile e.

.... or you know... E is town and Iguana is skum?
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Re: M135: Among Us Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #1479 on: September 30, 2021, 04:16:38 am »

or personal bias I guess is the more correct term . But still, you are basing the whole thing on your read that II is skum
That's clearly not true. If anything, I am biased towards thinking that e is scum; I mean, I was voting for the guy before the claim. I had not made up my mind about iguana.

I can't find you really pushing E! outside of just like earlier today. Is that what you are referencing  here?
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Re: M135: Among Us Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #1480 on: September 30, 2021, 04:18:12 am »

Yes. I have also been voting e for a brief moment during D2, before annoyingly deciding to go for gkrieg instead.
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Re: M135: Among Us Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #1481 on: September 30, 2021, 04:19:13 am »

Ok well. Swowl is a Cop (probably 1-shot and has investigated EFHW N1. MiX and Didds are Masons. Scum is among the remaining players.

why would you say this?
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Re: M135: Among Us Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #1482 on: September 30, 2021, 04:23:19 am »

I have no clue how to respond to faust at this point. He is so lost in his own little world

I mean, he is doing great eroding my read that since iguana is scum, faust must be town.
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Re: M135: Among Us Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #1483 on: September 30, 2021, 04:29:58 am »

its 130am here. I will read E! as a cop tomorrow tahh bahhh fairrrr - and let you know what I see.
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Re: M135: Among Us Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #1484 on: September 30, 2021, 04:31:11 am »

would also appreciate a WCD and MiX opinion on this
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Re: M135: Among Us Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #1485 on: September 30, 2021, 04:35:44 am »

Right, a 1-shot Cop who just decided to not use their power N1  ::)

That is correct.

With a no exile, no info, I took a risk and didn't investigate

Can you go over this decision with more detail?

There were multiple factors that went into it not the least of which was indecision.

I did not consider myself at risk of drawing the NK, and with a godfather there is always a chance that I investigate the worst possible person and get a town result on scum. To some extent, I selfishly wanted a better read on the game to get a better result. I did feel as though my reads were disconnected with a majority of town and that I would just investigate everyone thought was obv!town and it would be wasted. And also the later the investigation the more useful it is, but also riskier. I mean, does a full cop claim a N1 town result on D2? Not typically. I felt like I was super likely to just get a town result and then claim D2 and just create easy NK targets for scum.

Was I right? We will see how this turns out. We did get a D2 wagon and a N2 NK not influenced by my result.
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Re: M135: Among Us Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #1486 on: September 30, 2021, 04:38:06 am »

Though we don't necessarily want to go for iguana next. There is a nonzero chance that he's town.

but why does E! jump the gun like this?
Because scum wants to get to LyLo and sees e as their most disposable member. That second part is why I think it's more likely that iguana is scum; there aren't many scumteams I can think up where the sacrifice is chosen to be e.

It's more likely that this claim is serving a dual purpose of giving e towncred and calling your Cop status (and thus IC status) into question. But it is certainly worth rereading once e has flipped, before deciding on the next exile.

So you think we were finding skum today, or at least that skum thought that we were finding skum today?
Yes. As a rule, scum tends to overestimate the amount of danger they are in.

I tend to underestimate the amount of danger I am in.

I claimed when I did because I did not want anyone else to claim. I mean, sure, iguana is going to claim what he prepped last night, but I don't want town to claim.

For example, we don't need our UB outed. (If we have one)
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Re: M135: Among Us Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #1487 on: September 30, 2021, 04:41:12 am »

I also deliberated over when to claim? First post out the gate? String it along? I chose to string it along and probably posted a bit too loosely just having fun with it.
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Re: M135: Among Us Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #1488 on: September 30, 2021, 06:22:08 am »

Though we don't necessarily want to go for iguana next. There is a nonzero chance that he's town.

but why does E! jump the gun like this?
Because scum wants to get to LyLo and sees e as their most disposable member. That second part is why I think it's more likely that iguana is scum; there aren't many scumteams I can think up where the sacrifice is chosen to be e.

It's more likely that this claim is serving a dual purpose of giving e towncred and calling your Cop status (and thus IC status) into question. But it is certainly worth rereading once e has flipped, before deciding on the next exile.

So you think we were finding skum today, or at least that skum thought that we were finding skum today?
Yes. As a rule, scum tends to overestimate the amount of danger they are in.

I tend to underestimate the amount of danger I am in.

I claimed when I did because I did not want anyone else to claim. I mean, sure, iguana is going to claim what he prepped last night, but I don't want town to claim.

For example, we don't need our UB outed. (If we have one)

You are completely detached from this world if you think there's even a chance of an UB being in this game.

I still think we massclaim. If there's more PRs scum can't kill them all.
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Re: M135: Among Us Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #1489 on: September 30, 2021, 06:23:09 am »

Yes. I have also been voting e for a brief moment during D2, before annoyingly deciding to go for gkrieg instead.

Could you have tried to sheep me instead? At least attempt to?
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Re: M135: Among Us Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #1490 on: September 30, 2021, 06:24:23 am »

Ok well. Swowl is a Cop (probably 1-shot and has investigated EFHW N1. MiX and Didds are Masons. Scum is among the remaining players.

why would you say this?
If I'm right then scum probably already suspects all of this. If I'm wrong then maybe someone can point out to me why that is. Too many people have been suspecting MiX/Didds and I figured maybe this will give them something to think about.
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Re: M135: Among Us Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #1491 on: September 30, 2021, 06:24:51 am »

TIL I'm completely detached from this world.
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Re: M135: Among Us Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #1492 on: September 30, 2021, 06:25:51 am »

Yes. I have also been voting e for a brief moment during D2, before annoyingly deciding to go for gkrieg instead.

Could you have tried to sheep me instead? At least attempt to?
MiXy, I wish I could trust you. Alas. My vote stays where it is.
At the time I wasn't seeing the potential for Masons.
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Re: M135: Among Us Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #1493 on: September 30, 2021, 06:31:33 am »

Yes. I have also been voting e for a brief moment during D2, before annoyingly deciding to go for gkrieg instead.

Could you have tried to sheep me instead? At least attempt to?
MiXy, I wish I could trust you. Alas. My vote stays where it is.
At the time I wasn't seeing the potential for Masons.

 :'(

Well I thought only Swowl was onto it anyway. So I guess it's fine.
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Re: M135: Among Us Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #1494 on: September 30, 2021, 06:32:50 am »

How likely do you think it is that all scum were on the gkrieg wagon?

Interested in Joth/Swowl thoughts on this question

Not caught up. I answered this EOD yesterday. Quite likely. If not all three than 2/3.
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Re: M135: Among Us Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #1495 on: September 30, 2021, 06:37:02 am »

Right, a 1-shot Cop who just decided to not use their power N1  ::)

That is correct.

With a no exile, no info, I took a risk and didn't investigate
Because you thought "no info is good, let's have no info for longer"?

Still not caught up, but +1 faust. This is the kind of humor I come here for.
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Re: M135: Among Us Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #1496 on: September 30, 2021, 06:40:31 am »

Though we don't necessarily want to go for iguana next. There is a nonzero chance that he's town.

but why does E! jump the gun like this?
Because scum wants to get to LyLo and sees e as their most disposable member. That second part is why I think it's more likely that iguana is scum; there aren't many scumteams I can think up where the sacrifice is chosen to be e.

It's more likely that this claim is serving a dual purpose of giving e towncred and calling your Cop status (and thus IC status) into question. But it is certainly worth rereading once e has flipped, before deciding on the next exile.

So you think we were finding skum today, or at least that skum thought that we were finding skum today?
Yes. As a rule, scum tends to overestimate the amount of danger they are in.

Yes but not enough to do a mad sacrifice play while they’re currently bowligg by a perfect game…. Cmon faust.
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Re: M135: Among Us Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #1497 on: September 30, 2021, 06:44:39 am »

Ok well. Swowl is a Cop (probably 1-shot and has investigated EFHW N1. MiX and Didds are Masons. Scum is among the remaining players.

why would you say this?
If I'm right then scum probably already suspects all of this. If I'm wrong then maybe someone can point out to me why that is. Too many people have been suspecting MiX/Didds and I figured maybe this will give them something to think about.

I thought the masonry was you and MiX. Which kind of blinded me to the possibility of MiX and Didds. You might be underestimating the clarity that knowing your own role gives you.

If they are masons, that makes MiX’s behavior eod look a lot better. But it takes always the main reason I was trusting you :(
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Re: M135: Among Us Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #1498 on: September 30, 2021, 06:44:55 am »

Yes but not enough to do a mad sacrifice play while they’re currently bowligg by a perfect game…. Cmon faust.
What do you think is going on?
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« Reply #1499 on: September 30, 2021, 06:45:08 am »

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