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Re: M135: Among Us Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #1050 on: September 25, 2021, 11:51:24 am »

If this turns out to be town!math, then I will have more insight into how to read him, I think.

I think I'm going to have to go with my scumread and if I'm wrong I'll make adjustments in the future.

If that turns out to be the case anyway, I will know that for the future.

I don't like this at all from EFHW; it's like she's pre-empting a misexile. Maybe someone can tell me if this is just a thing she says all the time, but the fact that she said it three times in a relatively short space of time indicates she really wanted to emphasise it and take pressure off of herself for having a read.
I kept saying that because Didds and iguana had both said this is town!math.

No one commented on the distortions I found. The snipping and then mischaracterizing was the most serious to me.

Thank you for posting those! Helped me understand where you're coming from better. No real time to respond atm though
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Re: M135: Among Us Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #1051 on: September 25, 2021, 11:53:36 am »

Swowl saying most frustrating he's ever played seems like a suspicious hyperbole - would like to hear more about thst
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Re: M135: Among Us Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #1052 on: September 25, 2021, 11:54:07 am »

Really want to watch Portuguese Monty python but no time and I'm back to VLA
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Re: M135: Among Us Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #1053 on: September 25, 2021, 12:48:20 pm »

But both Joth and math ended the day voting for Jim, not one another. Why?!?

I did mention in passing (earlier D2) that I got stuck working at deadline. I was supposed to be done between 2 and 2:30. But we finished, I pulled out my phone, saw 3:00 on the dot, logged in, and see that mod was on the ball and shut it quick. If I was on in time, I would have switched vote... which, ironically, given my history, may have gotten me exiled somehow.

But regardless, in hindsight now, a flip D1 would have been better than no exile. This just feels like another D1, as has been said. I was hoping voting patterns would have shed some more light, but I don't see much in what I posted earlier.
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Re: M135: Among Us Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #1054 on: September 25, 2021, 03:47:49 pm »

I feel a bit talked out... let's look at the vote count.

Vote Count 2.faust

mathdude (3): EFHW, gkrieg13, MiX
jotheonah (1): Swowl,
faust (1): 2.71828.....
iguanaiguana (1): mathdude,
gkrieg13 (3): faust, WestCoastDidds, iguanaiguana
Swowl (2): jotheonah, Jimmmmm

With 11 alive, it takes 6 to exile. Day 2 will end September 27, 2021, 03:00:00 pm.

So deadline is in less than 2 days. We should make sure to actually get an exile. The people who are not on a proper wagon should either move or make a case to convince people. The people on Swowl should just move away because that's a stupid wagon.
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Re: M135: Among Us Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #1055 on: September 25, 2021, 05:28:09 pm »


I feel like the GK alt wagon is a lazy af alternative that was brought up as an alt to Joth/Math,

On this small point we agree. Does the fact that I am so dead against the gkrieg exile not affect your read on me at all?

SighÖ. Yes. A little. As did some things in my read over on second glance.
Need to think/read a bit. Back soon.

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Re: M135: Among Us Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #1056 on: September 25, 2021, 05:29:18 pm »

I feel a bit talked out... let's look at the vote count.

Vote Count 2.faust

mathdude (3): EFHW, gkrieg13, MiX
jotheonah (1): Swowl,
faust (1): 2.71828.....
iguanaiguana (1): mathdude,
gkrieg13 (3): faust, WestCoastDidds, iguanaiguana
Swowl (2): jotheonah, Jimmmmm

With 11 alive, it takes 6 to exile. Day 2 will end September 27, 2021, 03:00:00 pm.

So deadline is in less than 2 days. We should make sure to actually get an exile. The people who are not on a proper wagon should either move or make a case to convince people. The people on Swowl should just move away because that's a stupid wagon.

So you're basically saying this day should be math vs gkrieg?
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Re: M135: Among Us Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #1057 on: September 25, 2021, 07:47:32 pm »

I do agree, it's time to consolidate... we're less than 2 days to deadline. I don't think it has to be me vs gkrieg. But even so, I just reread his D2 posts... all 10 of them. One on the 21st, one on the 22nd, none on the 23rd, 8 on the 24th, none today yet. Here is what he said:

1. Need to catch up
2. Still haven't reread. I'm keeping my vote on math. Votes me.
3. One joth post looks townie, but he could be scum covering his partner if math flips scum
4. Now I'm just thinking what if math and joth are both scum?
5. Swowl looks scummy
6. Swowl is overreacting to Jim's questions
7. Iguana seems townie
8. Agree with faust (quoted post)
9. Disagree with joth - he is shutting down wagon analysis
10.Didds buddies people as town. Does she as scum?

I would say I saved you all some time from rereading gkrieg... but to be honest, reading his posts would be just about as fast as reading this summary. He has literally contributed nothing. He has said a few 1-liners ... the type scum says to sound townie.

He has probably included a partner in his "townie" or "scummy" calls... just not sure which. He's just leaving them there to try to mess with us if we do follow through with voting him.

So whoever said gkrieg is just a lazy vote... I disagree. It's a calculated vote who looks like scum trying to sneak by without saying too much.
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Re: M135: Among Us Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #1058 on: September 25, 2021, 08:02:19 pm »

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The people on Swowl should just move away because that's a stupid wagon.

Give me two good reasons the gkrieg wagon is better than the Swowl wagon.
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Re: M135: Among Us Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #1059 on: September 25, 2021, 08:49:24 pm »

gkrieg isn't posting a lot,  but many of his posts contain content in which he takes stances and expresses opinions. I feel like math is going for the easy lurker exile.
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Re: M135: Among Us Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #1060 on: September 25, 2021, 09:03:13 pm »

I agree that Swowl's frustration seems overplayed, and I'm not seeing an argument that applies to gkrieg and not Swowl.
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Re: M135: Among Us Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #1061 on: September 25, 2021, 09:20:05 pm »

My opinion on Swowl has swung townier. But one question,  the theory he put forth was a T v. S scenario. But since then everyone  including him has been calling it T v. T.
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Re: M135: Among Us Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #1062 on: September 25, 2021, 11:20:08 pm »

gkrieg isn't posting a lot,  but many of his posts contain content in which he takes stances and expresses opinions. I feel like math is going for the easy lurker exile.

The posts are taking stances and expressing opinions. But he's hardly engaging. They are easy statements to make for town or scum. They are the type scum makes to seem engaged, without actually caring what happens.
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Re: M135: Among Us Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #1063 on: September 26, 2021, 12:00:02 am »

My opinion on Swowl has swung townier. But one question,  the theory he put forth was a T v. S scenario. But since then everyone  including him has been calling it T v. T.

I don't recall referring to it as a TvT wagon situation?
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Re: M135: Among Us Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #1064 on: September 26, 2021, 01:47:49 am »

I do agree, it's time to consolidate... we're less than 2 days to deadline. I don't think it has to be me vs gkrieg. But even so, I just reread his D2 posts... all 10 of them. One on the 21st, one on the 22nd, none on the 23rd, 8 on the 24th, none today yet. Here is what he said:

1. Need to catch up
2. Still haven't reread. I'm keeping my vote on math. Votes me.
3. One joth post looks townie, but he could be scum covering his partner if math flips scum
4. Now I'm just thinking what if math and joth are both scum?
5. Swowl looks scummy
6. Swowl is overreacting to Jim's questions
7. Iguana seems townie
8. Agree with faust (quoted post)
9. Disagree with joth - he is shutting down wagon analysis
10.Didds buddies people as town. Does she as scum?

I would say I saved you all some time from rereading gkrieg... but to be honest, reading his posts would be just about as fast as reading this summary. He has literally contributed nothing. He has said a few 1-liners ... the type scum says to sound townie.

He has probably included a partner in his "townie" or "scummy" calls... just not sure which. He's just leaving them there to try to mess with us if we do follow through with voting him.

So whoever said gkrieg is just a lazy vote... I disagree. It's a calculated vote who looks like scum trying to sneak by without saying too much.

I was the one that said he was a lazy vote.
I went and did an actual re read just cuz your summary was super... "summarized".

He does do lots of 1 liners, but also it is GK... that is what he does.
I also agree with the majority of his TRs. He is also fairly consistent in his reads, and really only mentions the partner call out thing like once from what I can see. And I read it as kind of tongue  in cheek.

What is it that you think is the calculated part of the votes for him?
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Re: M135: Among Us Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #1065 on: September 26, 2021, 02:49:01 am »

So you're basically saying this day should be math vs gkrieg?
Anyone is free to argue their case. But whoever is just leaving their vote on a non-viable player without actively trying to convince people is trying to steer us towards another nexile.
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Re: M135: Among Us Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #1066 on: September 26, 2021, 02:49:29 am »

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The people on Swowl should just move away because that's a stupid wagon.

Give me two good reasons the gkrieg wagon is better than the Swowl wagon.
1. gkrieg has completely ignored the wagon on him.
2. Swowl is obviously town.
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Re: M135: Among Us Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #1067 on: September 26, 2021, 07:26:42 am »

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The people on Swowl should just move away because that's a stupid wagon.

Give me two good reasons the gkrieg wagon is better than the Swowl wagon.
1. gkrieg has completely ignored the wagon on him.
2. Swowl is obviously town.
1. How is that scummy? He probably hasn't even seen it yet.
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Re: M135: Among Us Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #1068 on: September 26, 2021, 07:28:25 am »

Actually same question to Jim and the whole TVT wagon thing. Whatís your theory for me isolating a TVT wagon today like you say, but also switching from Math to Joth?
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Re: M135: Among Us Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #1069 on: September 26, 2021, 07:51:48 am »

Actually same question to Jim and the whole TVT wagon thing. Whatís your theory for me isolating a TVT wagon today like you say, but also switching from Math to Joth?

I think I've answered this.

I think the TVT wagon thing was a nighttime scum plan to shape the agenda for the day (I think Jim said as much above).

I think you picked me over math because you forgot about your previous fake read.

Here's joth making the same mistake.  TvT came up a lot previously,  but Jimmmmm and faust spoke hypothetically rather than using  it to describe the theory. Just wondering if Swowl or joth might have scumslipped.
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Re: M135: Among Us Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #1070 on: September 26, 2021, 07:55:25 am »

No one commented on the distortions I found. The snipping and then mischaracterizing was the most serious to me.

I remember agreeing with them but not seeing how they make math more scummy. I also remember being confirmation biased about it.

I looked it over and I remembered that I thought you brought up one thing that was truly scummy and worth mentioning, but it's late and I'm not going to look for that right now.

So if anyone wants to vote math, you can read the EFHW post.

Have you remembered what was scummy to you?

You are much quieter than usual.
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Re: M135: Among Us Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #1071 on: September 26, 2021, 08:02:11 am »


Here's joth making the same mistake.  TvT came up a lot previously,  but Jimmmmm and faust spoke hypothetically rather than using  it to describe the theory. Just wondering if Swowl or joth might have scumslipped.

I think this is Swowl saying "Why do you think it was TvT?", and joth replying "This is why I think it was TvT." It's discussing the idea that Swowl is scum who pushed for having the same wagons because they were TvT.
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Re: M135: Among Us Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #1072 on: September 26, 2021, 08:31:55 am »


Here's joth making the same mistake.  TvT came up a lot previously,  but Jimmmmm and faust spoke hypothetically rather than using  it to describe the theory. Just wondering if Swowl or joth might have scumslipped.

I think this is Swowl saying "Why do you think it was TvT?", and joth replying "This is why I think it was TvT." It's discussing the idea that Swowl is scum who pushed for having the same wagons because they were TvT.
Read it again. It could well be nothing, but it's not what you just said.
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Re: M135: Among Us Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #1073 on: September 26, 2021, 08:35:39 am »

No one commented on the distortions I found. The snipping and then mischaracterizing was the most serious to me.

I remember agreeing with them but not seeing how they make math more scummy. I also remember being confirmation biased about it.

I looked it over and I remembered that I thought you brought up one thing that was truly scummy and worth mentioning, but it's late and I'm not going to look for that right now.

So if anyone wants to vote math, you can read the EFHW post.

Have you remembered what was scummy to you?

You are much quieter than usual.

No, I forgot I even posted that. I've been busy having fun with other stuff.

I don't know who scum is, and I can't see us exiling scum that wasn't wagoned already. So I'm just chilling in a wagon waiting for the day to end.
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Re: M135: Among Us Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #1074 on: September 26, 2021, 08:38:20 am »

Read it again. It could well be nothing, but it's not what you just said.

One of us is misunderstanding. To me it seems like Swowl is asking me and joth why he as scum would push for the same wagons as Yesterday, which were TvT in this scenario (and also why he switched from math to joth), and joth is talking about the scum plan of pushing those same wagons.
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