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[gkrieg13]

I do not have any powers that target, so either we have a scum redirector in play or Dylan is just lying.

Would a redirector actually work with what Dylan has described as his power?

Keep in mind, Swowl claimed to try to kill me, I claimed to block him, and I'm still alive and got my name as I would have expected. So at least one of my targets was not redirected.

I agree that there is probably no way a redirector works.

[Dylan32]

I have not taken any actions all game.

Like I said, slight chance Swowl has actions that let him target 3 different people at once. That and the two of you targeting some combo of me, EFHW, and Jack in some arrangement would be indistinguishable in my results, but the simple fact is Swowl was most likely honest about trying to kill me, so if I trust Swowl's claims then I'm left with simplest solution is you tried to shoot EFHW or Jack (of the two EFHW is the more likely target for death).

ppe 2

[gkrieg13]

I really don’t think anything we do matters at this point. Dylan had to know the jig would be up as soon as I flipped green, which means he didn’t care. He and Jack have likely won already.

I agree that this is the outcome if you are actually town.

[Dylan32]

I really don’t think anything we do matters at this point. Dylan had to know the jig would be up as soon as I flipped green, which means he didn’t care. He and Jack have likely won already.

I agree that this is the outcome if you are actually town.

I mean, yes. As long as EFHW didn't pull a fast one, Jack and I have fulfilled our win condition. That said, in a legacy game in which 3rd parties seem to be at least semi-common to some extent, there's no way I would want to burn the trust of being honest with town as a 3rd party in season 2 out of 4, and that's without considering the long-term trustworthiness considerations for future games that I would have to deal with.

[gkrieg13]

I have not taken any actions all game.

Like I said, slight chance Swowl has actions that let him target 3 different people at once. That and the two of you targeting some combo of me, EFHW, and Jack in some arrangement would be indistinguishable in my results, but the simple fact is Swowl was most likely honest about trying to kill me, so if I trust Swowl's claims then I'm left with simplest solution is you tried to shoot EFHW or Jack (of the two EFHW is the more likely target for death).

ppe 2

Plus, this means that you are able to actually block Swowl, so doing so again would win us the game anyway

[Dylan32]

I have not taken any actions all game.

Like I said, slight chance Swowl has actions that let him target 3 different people at once. That and the two of you targeting some combo of me, EFHW, and Jack in some arrangement would be indistinguishable in my results, but the simple fact is Swowl was most likely honest about trying to kill me, so if I trust Swowl's claims then I'm left with simplest solution is you tried to shoot EFHW or Jack (of the two EFHW is the more likely target for death).

ppe 2

Plus, this means that you are able to actually block Swowl, so doing so again would win us the game anyway

Right, and this is the case for no exile today. No exile today and then if I succeed at that, then all town would have to do (and Jack and I would help if we are still in the game) is no exile tomorrow and win. Of course, if we are removed from the game, then you know the two people with killing actions and can win that way.

[Dylan32]

I have not taken any actions all game.

Like I said, slight chance Swowl has actions that let him target 3 different people at once. That and the two of you targeting some combo of me, EFHW, and Jack in some arrangement would be indistinguishable in my results, but the simple fact is Swowl was most likely honest about trying to kill me, so if I trust Swowl's claims then I'm left with simplest solution is you tried to shoot EFHW or Jack (of the two EFHW is the more likely target for death).

ppe 2

Plus, this means that you are able to actually block Swowl, so doing so again would win us the game anyway

Right, and this is the case for no exile today. No exile today and then if I succeed at that, then all town would have to do (and Jack and I would help if we are still in the game) is no exile tomorrow and win. Of course, if we are removed from the game, then you know the two people with killing actions and can win that way.

"can win that way" meaning exiling those two people to let the game end peacefully.

[Glooble]

I honestly have no idea what game Dylan is playing continuing to cling to this lie if he has in fact already won. So I don’t think I’ll be moving my vote. Just in case he actually has to survive and make it to Earth to win.

[EFHW]

I do not have any powers that target, so either we have a scum redirector in play or Dylan is just lying.

Would a redirector actually work with what Dylan has described as his power?

Keep in mind, Swowl claimed to try to kill me, I claimed to block him, and I'm still alive and got my name as I would have expected. So at least one of my targets was not redirected.

I agree that there is probably no way a redirector works.

Why do you say this? A power that makes all actions targeting X target Glooble instead would work.

[EFHW]

Hit post too Hit post too fast. I see the problems now.

[LaLight]

The person I've been calling Red and 2nd person I blocked was Glooble.

toldja!

[LaLight]

Dylan, do you both need to be on a track to Earth, or is enacting the XO enough?

[Dylan32]

Dylan, do you both need to be on a track to Earth, or is enacting the XO enough?

As far as I can tell, enacting Course to Earth was enough.

[faust]

The following Executive Order has been enacted:

Course to Earth
Trigger a turning point. Remove this from the game.

Thread locked! Please check your QTs.

[faust]

A new hope has spread among you, a goal that you together may work towards. Maybe a common goal is all you ever needed to form a functioning whole? As the camps at Caprica are slowly broken down, and the fleet remobilized, you look towards the stars. Is it really out there? The home of what the humans call "the thirteenth tribe"?

Dylan32 has been removed from the game. They were Caprica Six, and they were Believer-aligned as well as Lover-alinged.

Jack Rudd has been removed from the game! They were Ellen Tigh, and they were Believer-aligned.

Every player in the game may, once during this game, use a power they have an additional time in the same Night.

Thread unlocked!

Vote Count 5.2

Not Voting (6): EFHW, Swowl, gkrieg13, Cylons, LaLight, Glooble

With 5 alive, it takes 3 to exile. Day 5 ends August 03, 2021, 05:00:00 pm.

[LaLight]

yeeeeeah right

vote: Glooble

[LaLight]

also, congratulations Dylan and Jack! Dylan, sorry I doubted you, but I believe you didn't tell me everything in the end. Still congrats, I feel my hand in helping you

[LaLight]

also, damn, we didn't misexile once in this game and still we are almost in XiLo. This game doesn't look very town-sided

[LaLight]

ah, no, we misexiled ADK (sorry ADK). Still

[Glooble]

How long do we have until deadline? I would like time to go back over the claims and try to figure out who the scum actually is before you exile me.

I do not know why Dylan lied about his result on me, but you have to trust me that he did. Please don’t just follow him blindly when you know he wasn’t town.

[LaLight]

I do not know why Dylan lied about his result on me, but you have to trust me that he did. Please don’t just follow him blindly when you know he wasn’t town.

This doesn't really works like this, I'm sorry. Just because he wasn't town, it doesn't mean he was scum. He had no slight motivation to lie.

[Glooble]

I do not know why Dylan lied about his result on me, but you have to trust me that he did. Please don’t just follow him blindly when you know he wasn’t town.

This doesn't really works like this, I'm sorry. Just because he wasn't town, it doesn't mean he was scum. He had no slight motivation to lie.

Sure he did. He needed something to entice EFHW to enact Course to Earth. He didn’t have a useful result, so he made one up, knowing he’d be out of the game before he had to face any consequences.

[Glooble]

I was the easiest fall guy because I haven’t been very active this game.

Don’t let him play you. Use the time we have left to find scum.

[Glooble]

Like literally think about this for two seconds. If I was scum, I would have known that Dylan’s result was on me. Why would I have encouraged EFHW to take the deal? I would have fought it.

[Glooble]

so. Other then my Medic power, that I used on gkrieg N1, MiX N2 and Dylan while we were off, I have a weird investigative power. So basically i can target abperson and try to look into their belingings and gather info. If I succeed I get a flavor blurb. If i succeed twice in a game, I can expose myself to radiation and trigger a turning point.

Night 1 I used it on scola and it was successful. I got a blurb that he had some maps of Cylon facilities, but my character didn't really understood why. N2 I targeted Jack and didn't find anything. I couldn't use more than 1 power on Dylan, so I used healing.

What I think after scola flip is that my power is a delayed cop basically - it's hard enough to pull off, I probably succesfully gather info if person is part of the resistance, and I need to be alive for many many nights so it would work, but maybe I'm wrong. But that's why I think Jack is probably town. Who knows.

Also yeah, I am still Karl Agathon and Town-Aligned

Some suspicious stuff in LaLight's claim now that we know that Jack is not town aligned. Why would scola show up as suspicious to LaLight's power and not Jack? If LaLight is town, I would think his power would find all the third parties. If he's yellow scum maybe it would only see red scum. If he's red scum, maybe he targeted his partner with something else (a protective ability) and this claim was in case he was tracked.

LaLight's insistence on trusting Dylan is scummy, and now that we know Course to Earth was not a pro-town order his help in picking it is also kinda scummy. Also possible that Dylan pointing the finger at me was a condition of an agreement he made with LaLight to get LaLight to choose Course to Earth.