Ah, so much Come At Me, Bro for a Thursday.
I’m mobile, so I’m not going to quote Dylan’s case on me. Although it takes up a lot of space (I’m long winded so quoting me will do that) It really only has two main points….I think cylons are baddies and I thought we should let Scola die of radiation poisoning instead of exile.
Those are not scummy ideas.
1. I *DO* think cylons are baddies. I haven’t stopped thinking that since the cylons we flipped turned out to be baddies.
2. Scola… part of this I will explain when it’s my turn to claim (I will claim in EFHW order not in Dylan order because I do not like to be bossed around and Dylan appointing himself order-caller is scummy in a doc itself), but also when I went to bed MiX hadn’t claimed so the parts of scola’s story that didn’t make sense hadn’t been highlighted. I don’t think it is scummy at all to want to see how the radiation poisoning would have worked. I will admit that I didn’t find him particularly scummy, but I don’t think they really became clear until he and MiX got into it and that was after I went to bed.
LL’s opinion of Dylan further solidifies my belief that Dylan can’t be trusted. I wouldn’t be surprised if they were both baddies (one yellow, one red). I feel like I’m one of the few people actively scumhunting so Dylan coming for me is ringing all the buy scum alarms, but also OMGUS so there’s that.
I didn't appoint myself the order-caller. EFHW gave an order, other people said they were ok with it. I gave my feedback on it, but said I was fine with the order as given.
To point 1, what about the red faction flipping as "Resistance" and my point about the resistance in the show being a human resistance? Do you disagree with that, not notice it, or are you just disregarding it?
Didn't notice. I'm multitasking work, and thought I had the thrust of what you were saying. I haven't seen the show. The green people have been human-aligned. I still feel like cylons are baddies because they are not human. The red flip didnt say human resistance, so eh...I'm still thinking cylon, but it doesn't really matter. Resistance = bad. I can be wrong about that the cylons, obviously, but I am not sure what difference it makes unless you know one of us has a result that you are a cylon and you are trying to head it off.
I've said all along this game that my character was definitely a cylon in the show, and while I don't technically know that I am one mechanically in the game, I think it's most likely. If you want to go back and read my earlier comments, this is a big part of why I agreed with you earlier that cylons, more specifically those cylons who controlled the faction vote, were anti-town, since I am (probably) and I had nothing to do with the vote. My assumption was that since I'm not connected to the cylons who did control the vote in any way, and I know my own alignment, those other cylons are bad. Now we know that there was a cylon extremist faction, which, even by name alone would suggest that not all cylons are part of it, unless we want to go down the line of reasoning that extremists are representative of the whole group...
Let's look at the flip that we had of the resistance leader. Scola was Samuel T. Anderson, resistance aligned. Copy and pasted from a bsg wiki, first couple sentences on his entry:
"Samuel T. "Longshot" Anders is a rook Viper pilot aboard Galactica and husband to Captain Kara Thrace.
Before the Fall of the Twelve Colonies, Anders was captain of the Caprica Buccaneers. On Cylon-occupied Caprica, he becomes leader of the
human resistance until they are rescued by his future wife. He later becomes aware of his true nature as one of the Cylon "Final Five" (Crossroads, Part II)."
bold added for emphasisNow, the last sentence does say this particular character ended up finding out he was a cylon, however most members of the resistance were human, and had the specific goal of opposing the cooperation between the cylons and humans. If you read all of the flavor text faust has posted, this is exactly the scenario this game is playing out, so it seems very clear to me that at least from a flavor perspective right now, players with human flavor names are more likely than random to be scum, while those with explicitly cylon names are more likely than random to cylon extremists IF we believe there are still more members of that faction alive. In terms of game balance, I think that is unlikely, although I can understand why someone might think I could be that third member explaining why the vote didn't move while I was out of the game.
As to what difference it makes, to my eyes it is scummy to ignore the information that we have in order to continue pushing a narrative that cylons are inherently bad as opposed to all available evidence (and it's not exactly an inconsequential amount) points to, at least in terms of flavor, an inherently human resistance, because resistance-aligned humans absolutely are more likely than others to want to keep cylons at the top of the exile priority list.
Faust has done a really good job of following the flavor and realities of the show as far as I can tell in a way that still has kept the game interesting, so I just don't see this being a point that he would diverge on. Honestly, including the cylon 3rd party is in effect a balancing element to make sure some cylons and some humans are bad in a game where many of us have the same characters as last game. Obviously, we aren't going to just roll over the same bad people as scum every game just because the flavor means that person is bad. This season, having an anti-town 3rd party of some cylons and a more or less explicitly human resistance that were both respresented in the show is a great way to balance flavor and the mechanics necessary to keep the game interesting.
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