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[Brightgalrs]

And yes, neighbourhoods have different restrictions. In BM. Big deal? I don't get what the issue is.

It didn't use to be a big deal, but became one when no one acknowledged it as even a small deal.

So why are you voting Didds and not Pubby?

I would’ve been much more suspect if they were claimed to be the same mechanic. The fact that they’re different probably wasn’t talked about because it’s a complete null fact.

I think I've explained myself pretty well. I don't care (anymore? even when I did it was a "huh, that's kinda funky") about this game having two neighborhoods. I'm purely voting for a meta-reason, ie. no one jumped on Didds for their neighborhood having a different mechanic than pubby's. Yes, no one jumped on pubby either, but remember that he was reacting to Didds's partial claim.

[Galzria]

Didds has 3x the posts of Pubby & Jimmmmm combined. That’s somewhat expected, but still, it’s noteworthy that the most vocal players are often the most suspected players because they’re generating the most noise. Does Didds activity level say anything about her alignment?

Didds, looking back, how would you characterize this exchange?

Hey uh Didds, did you get your alignment with PINL?

Why is this a question for me??

Why is this not an answer for me???

Because it is an oddly specific question.

What are you worried about?

You!

In the following exchange, the same question asked from Math to faust, and the pursuing answer, seems to catch you off guard. I’m trying to put my finger on why these two exchanges feel off. Any thoughts?

And what is this good authority?  Did Joth actually confirm to you with PINL?

Yes. Well, more or less. It's has to do with my role, so excuse me for not going into more detail.

Did you get yours with PINL?

No I didn't.

Oh, this is spicy!! Are our role posts lies?!

[EFHW]

I'm starting to feel left out - no neighborhood!

Sorry for being scarce. I've lost enthusiasm for the Jimmmmm exile, but need to consider the alternatives.

[WestCoastDidds]

And yes, neighbourhoods have different restrictions. In BM. Big deal? I don't get what the issue is.

It didn't use to be a big deal, but became one when no one acknowledged it as even a small deal.

So why are you voting Didds and not Pubby?

I would’ve been much more suspect if they were claimed to be the same mechanic. The fact that they’re different probably wasn’t talked about because it’s a complete null fact.

I think I've explained myself pretty well. I don't care (anymore? even when I did it was a "huh, that's kinda funky") about this game having two neighborhoods. I'm purely voting for a meta-reason, ie. no one jumped on Didds for their neighborhood having a different mechanic than pubby's. Yes, no one jumped on pubby either, but remember that he was reacting to Didds's partial claim.

So, your problem with me is that I told the thread about my neighborhood and pubby has a neighborhood with different posting rules and someone should have noticed and that makes me scummy? I’m not following that logic at all.

[EFHW]

I'll stay on Jimmmmm, since the alternative seems to be Didds. Who knows, maybe his funny answers were a way to post as scum.

[Brightgalrs]

I’m not following that logic at all.

That's alright.

[WestCoastDidds]

Didds has 3x the posts of Pubby & Jimmmmm combined. That’s somewhat expected, but still, it’s noteworthy that the most vocal players are often the most suspected players because they’re generating the most noise. Does Didds activity level say anything about her alignment?

Didds, looking back, how would you characterize this exchange?

Hey uh Didds, did you get your alignment with PINL?

Why is this a question for me??

Why is this not an answer for me???

Because it is an oddly specific question.

What are you worried about?

You!

In the following exchange, the same question asked from Math to faust, and the pursuing answer, seems to catch you off guard. I’m trying to put my finger on why these two exchanges feel off. Any thoughts?

And what is this good authority?  Did Joth actually confirm to you with PINL?

Yes. Well, more or less. It's has to do with my role, so excuse me for not going into more detail.

Did you get yours with PINL?

No I didn't.

Oh, this is spicy!! Are our role posts lies?!

In the first one, faust had selected me to answer a question that felt to me like role fishing. I suspect that he was deliberately preying on me because I often volunteer too much.

The next quote was a full irl day later when I wasn’t as wary of faust (full disclosure, I misread Faust’s PINL != PIL wrong) and he seemed to be saying that he couldn’t trust his role.

[Galzria]

The thing about Jimmmmm, is that he has several intentionally self-contradictory posts, saying the opposite of what he means:

Happy with a WCD lynch. Unvote

(That was an unvote from WCD, btw.)

Does anyone know when the deadline is? I'm off to bed soon so I should be around for it.

Deadline's in the morning for me. I normally sleep in past then, so I should be around for it if the Day's still going.

Which is fine and dandy for BM, I guess. Nice to have someone playing like that. Thank you Jimmmmm.
BUT... that means that his votes (and maybe occasional "PINL" statements like this:

Okay pubby's probably a better exile than Didds. PINL. Vote: pubby

... ) are the only things that tie him to any particular stance.

So that's my lurker exile of choice.

On the other hand, the things about Didds are:
- I think she is likely a Bad Dwarf. (Brief case: she didn't make much effort to fight her slowly growing wagon, instead relying on the "Doc" claim to save her. If she were town - in my limited experience she is good at arguing against her wagon as town. And so would not have needed to "out" herself. I think it is unlikely that Joth felt forced to give town alignment based on character name "Doc".)
- On the other hand she is active.
- Also I find myself believing her on many points, especially in this most recent argument with pubby about her neighbourhood.

So, do I have the courage of my convictions and go for active but scummy Didds. I don't know. I will try to understand pubby's argument...

PPE 5

This is a good post. It makes Jimmmmm far less random than I felt he was before.

Vote: Didds

I’m not convinced Didds is the better Exile here - and maybe I’m bias by volume - but Didds has more things that jump out as feeling off than Jimmmmm.

[infangthief]

I’m not following that logic at all.

That's alright.

I'm not following it either. Care to explain any further?
pubby might have something, seems like he's holding back a lot of info.

[infangthief]

Right, phone call to make before it gets too late here. May or may not be back before deadline.

[Swowl]

Swowl sets off fireworks that confirm that Didds has a QT with Day Chat with some amount of the 7 Dwarves within it.

[WestCoastDidds]

Jimmmmm (5): Swowl, EFHW, mathdude, WestCoastDidds, scolapasta
WestCoastDidds (5): pubby, faust, Brightgalrs, infangthief, Galzria
pubby (2): Awaclus, Jimmmmm
EFHW (1):

Well, that sucks....with Galz’s vote, it is done now. Jimmmm isn’t going to vote for himself

PPE:2

[mathdude]

The first half of the day, I saw a lot of things from Didds that were scummy, IMO.  In the second half, everything Didds has done seems reasonable from a town perspective, specifically one who has been under fire.  I'm not excusing what I saw at the beginning.  But I think right now, the active participants leave a much better option to get a further read on Didds tomorrow, compared to getting a good read on Jimmmmm tomorrow.  I find both very scummy.  And at least between night actions and/or more discussion tomorrow, I think we have a better shot at knowing the truth of Didds if we vote Jimmmmm out today (rather than the other way around).

I'm keeping my vote on Jimmmmm.

[WestCoastDidds]

I’m sad. I like chatty games. And the folks for whom the daychat thing mattered (pubby and Brighty) don’t seem to be around.

[WestCoastDidds]

Galzy! Fang! Change your mind!

[mathdude]

Swowl sets off fireworks that confirm that Didds has a QT with Day Chat with some amount of the 7 Dwarves within it.

Ok, so either Swowl and Didds are going down swinging, saying the scum QT has daychat (whether or not it does).  Or else Didds is telling the truth and Swowl is there with her.

[EFHW]

Interesting fact - Jimmmmm is online now.

[WestCoastDidds]

Yes, Swowl is a 7 dwarf. I think Scola had already figured that out.

[Galzria]

Swowl sets off fireworks that confirm that Didds has a QT with Day Chat with some amount of the 7 Dwarves within it.

Unvote

Swowl - do you think that:

A) Didds is more likely to be town
B) Jimmmmm is more likely to be scum
C) Both A & B

?

Basically - are you voting Jimmmmm because you think he’s scum, or because you DON’T want Didds Exiled, or both?

[Awaclus]

If this is what it comes down to, I'm going to vote: Didds

[Jimmmmm]

Interesting fact - Jimmmmm is online now.

No I'm not.

[mathdude]

With this (almost) stalemate, it makes me feel like either:
1. both are town, and scum doesn't care who gets exiled, or
2. both are scum, and scum can't change the wagon this late (just has to hope for no exile)

Also possible, though less likely... one is scum, the other is not, and partner(s) are already locked and can't sway the votes anymore.

[Swowl]

Swowl sets off fireworks that confirm that Didds has a QT with Day Chat with some amount of the 7 Dwarves within it.

Unvote

Swowl - do you think that:

A) Didds is more likely to be town
B) Jimmmmm is more likely to be scum
C) Both A & B

?

Basically - are you voting Jimmmmm because you think he’s scum, or because you DON’T want Didds Exiled, or both?

Swowl writes a note to galz on a piece of parchment stating they think that the answer to their question is an in between.
Swowl does feel like Didds is Town, but also feels the need to put forth that they do not have a crazy SR on Jimmm, it is just a better option than didds to them by a mile at this point.

[Awaclus]

With this (almost) stalemate, it makes me feel like either:
1. both are town, and scum doesn't care who gets exiled, or
2. both are scum, and scum can't change the wagon this late (just has to hope for no exile)

Also possible, though less likely... one is scum, the other is not, and partner(s) are already locked and can't sway the votes anymore.

I think the third option is much more likely than the second.

[Swowl]

With this (almost) stalemate, it makes me feel like either:
1. both are town, and scum doesn't care who gets exiled, or
2. both are scum, and scum can't change the wagon this late (just has to hope for no exile)

Also possible, though less likely... one is scum, the other is not, and partner(s) are already locked and can't sway the votes anymore.

I think the third option is much more likely than the second.

Swowl wonders if Awaclus thinks it is more likely than the first