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[MiX]

Acknowledged. Again, I do mean to catch up soon.

Vote: MiX

Then why would you put me in E-1?

Town is in a really, really bad situation if I'm exiled. I can't stress it enough.

You'll need to elaborate to be persuasive.

Town needs to not be addicted to make people claim information that doesn't help town just because they scumread them.

What I'm saying is true. Ask ADK. You don't need to know more than that to make a decision. After all, I could be lying regardless of how much I elaborate, right?

[WestCoastDidds]

Let’s not ax one of the most active players.

Let’s exile one of the folks who are barely contributing.

[A Drowned Kernel]

This is treading into dangerous water, but:

I have information, accessible only to me, that makes me strongly believe mix is town

If you think I'm town, and you trust my judgement, you won't exile mix

[WestCoastDidds]

Hey all, sorry about disappearing this weekend. I can't really elaborate much, but there was a fatal incident Friday night that has taken up a lot of mental capacity, and my ability to sit and focus on games just hasn't been there this weekend. I'm going to try to catch up.

Oh, Dylan. I’m so sorry. I hope that you are doing okay.

[Dylan32]

Here, have a begrudging Unvote...

[Dylan32]

Hey all, sorry about disappearing this weekend. I can't really elaborate much, but there was a fatal incident Friday night that has taken up a lot of mental capacity, and my ability to sit and focus on games just hasn't been there this weekend. I'm going to try to catch up.

Oh, Dylan. I’m so sorry. I hope that you are doing okay.

I'm fine, thanks. On the one hand, the thing didn't affect me directly per se, but it very much impacted an immediate family member, so it's more worrying about them than personally being in a bad spot. Just the whole situation sucks.

[Dylan32]

To be clear, my unvote is almost solely on ADK's word here.

[Dylan32]

Acknowledged. Again, I do mean to catch up soon.

Vote: MiX

Then why would you put me in E-1?

Town is in a really, really bad situation if I'm exiled. I can't stress it enough.

You'll need to elaborate to be persuasive.

Town needs to not be addicted to make people claim information that doesn't help town just because they scumread them.

What I'm saying is true. Ask ADK. You don't need to know more than that to make a decision. After all, I could be lying regardless of how much I elaborate, right?

See, I don't agree with this. Like in they hypothetical where you are lying scum, the more you elaborate and the more detailed your lies are, the more likely we are to find something that eventually contradicts that lie. So if a majority (or at least very nearly so) thinks you are scum / likely to be lying, it is in our best interest to get you to say as much as possible. Scum's biggest advantage normally (at least at game start) is their information gap. Town has to work to overcome that, often by acquiring more information. In general, getting more information into town's hands is better than withholding it, certain situations not withstanding. So if this is a situation where it's information that would help scum more than town, you can say that and try to convince us that is true, but that doesn't change that generally withholding info is anti-town.

[scolapasta]

Dr. Jeckyl and Mr MiX, a short story by scolapasta:

Would you, as either alignment, not answer that question? Why would you do that? Answering questions is fun and helpful which helps all alignments involved.

Town needs to not be addicted to make people claim information that doesn't help town just because they scumread them.

What I'm saying is true. Ask ADK. You don't need to know more than that to make a decision. After all, I could be lying regardless of how much I elaborate, right?

[scolapasta]

Hey all, sorry about disappearing this weekend. I can't really elaborate much, but there was a fatal incident Friday night that has taken up a lot of mental capacity, and my ability to sit and focus on games just hasn't been there this weekend. I'm going to try to catch up.

Oh, Dylan. I’m so sorry. I hope that you are doing okay.

I'm fine, thanks. On the one hand, the thing didn't affect me directly per se, but it very much impacted an immediate family member, so it's more worrying about them than personally being in a bad spot. Just the whole situation sucks.

Agreed, sorry to hear. And directly or indirectly, I'm sure it sucks.

[scolapasta]

ADK, can you remind us why you wanted to be VP? It's become more clear than you're military. I know that my though process (and I read the same thing in Didd's lack of desire to be VP when MiX had asked) was being miltary and being unsure of the turning point, I was not interested. Especially with MiX as President, as his play style could easily lend him to getting brigged. (in fact, I think the only thing saving him right now from being brigged is the fact that he's the president)

So why is it you put your name in the running?

[MiX]

Dr. Jeckyl and Mr MiX, a short story by scolapasta:

Would you, as either alignment, not answer that question? Why would you do that? Answering questions is fun and helpful which helps all alignments involved.

Town needs to not be addicted to make people claim information that doesn't help town just because they scumread them.

What I'm saying is true. Ask ADK. You don't need to know more than that to make a decision. After all, I could be lying regardless of how much I elaborate, right?

Bolded That For You.

[Dylan32]

Dr. Jeckyl and Mr MiX, a short story by scolapasta:

Would you, as either alignment, not answer that question? Why would you do that? Answering questions is fun and helpful which helps all alignments involved.

Town needs to not be addicted to make people claim information that doesn't help town just because they scumread them.

What I'm saying is true. Ask ADK. You don't need to know more than that to make a decision. After all, I could be lying regardless of how much I elaborate, right?

Bolded That For You.

Bolded and italicized that for you.

[SpaceAnemone]

This is treading into dangerous water, but:

I have information, accessible only to me, that makes me strongly believe mix is town

If you think I'm town, and you trust my judgement, you won't exile mix

Do you specifically believe MiX is town, or just that he's not Cylon aligned?

I ask because not for the first time this game, the fact he's explicitly mentioning the possibility of third-party or traitor mechanics (see his recent criticism of Jack) makes me wonder what particular information he's got that makes him go into extra detail relating to those possibilities.

[Swowl]

I don’t want their to be no exile situation again, and I’m fine with you dying. Sorry!

K. well at least Jack is reading the game. I do not have the brain power to try to convince people of Pasta with the time left. If we are gonna do a lurker, can we please at least do Robz over Jack?

Vote: Robz

[Swowl]

Snip*

Especially with MiX as President, as his play style could easily lend him to getting brigged. (in fact, I think the only thing saving him right now from being brigged is the fact that he's the president)

The only thing that is

I simply do not believe that MiX as skum would put a play on the table that forces an exile.

Why not?

There are no skum deaths and no exiles. 2 Town flips. Why force a flip?

[LaLight]

I scumread MiX more than I believe ADK's claim. my vote stays

[Swowl]

I scumread MiX more than I believe ADK's claim. my vote stays

how do you read adk?

[A Drowned Kernel]

ADK, can you remind us why you wanted to be VP? It's become more clear than you're military. I know that my though process (and I read the same thing in Didd's lack of desire to be VP when MiX had asked) was being miltary and being unsure of the turning point, I was not interested. Especially with MiX as President, as his play style could easily lend him to getting brigged. (in fact, I think the only thing saving him right now from being brigged is the fact that he's the president)

So why is it you put your name in the running?

This is an entirely reasonable question! That I'm not going to answer

[A Drowned Kernel]

This is treading into dangerous water, but:

I have information, accessible only to me, that makes me strongly believe mix is town

If you think I'm town, and you trust my judgement, you won't exile mix

Do you specifically believe MiX is town, or just that he's not Cylon aligned?

I ask because not for the first time this game, the fact he's explicitly mentioning the possibility of third-party or traitor mechanics (see his recent criticism of Jack) makes me wonder what particular information he's got that makes him go into extra detail relating to those possibilities.

I specifically believe he's town

[scolapasta]

ADK, can you remind us why you wanted to be VP? It's become more clear than you're military. I know that my though process (and I read the same thing in Didd's lack of desire to be VP when MiX had asked) was being miltary and being unsure of the turning point, I was not interested. Especially with MiX as President, as his play style could easily lend him to getting brigged. (in fact, I think the only thing saving him right now from being brigged is the fact that he's the president)

So why is it you put your name in the running?

This is an entirely reasonable question! That I'm not going to answer

Why do you defy your own president's platform:

Answering questions is fun and helpful which helps all alignments involved.

[EFHW]

To be clear, my unvote is almost solely on ADK's word here.

unvote

[EFHW]

Snip*

Especially with MiX as President, as his play style could easily lend him to getting brigged. (in fact, I think the only thing saving him right now from being brigged is the fact that he's the president)

The only thing that is

I simply do not believe that MiX as skum would put a play on the table that forces an exile.

Why not?

There are no skum deaths and no exiles. 2 Town flips. Why force a flip?

They still have to kill most of town.

[EFHW]

{snipped a bunch of quotes} Like in they hypothetical where you are lying scum, the more you elaborate and the more detailed your lies are, the more likely we are to find something that eventually contradicts that lie. So if a majority (or at least very nearly so) thinks you are scum / likely to be lying, it is in our best interest to get you to say as much as possible. Scum's biggest advantage normally (at least at game start) is their information gap. Town has to work to overcome that, often by acquiring more information. In general, getting more information into town's hands is better than withholding it, certain situations not withstanding. So if this is a situation where it's information that would help scum more than town, you can say that and try to convince us that is true, but that doesn't change that generally withholding info is anti-town.

I agree with the principle of town needs information and elaboration does make a difference, even if the person is lying. But there are definitely many scenarios in which withholding information is pro-town.

[A Drowned Kernel]

ADK, can you remind us why you wanted to be VP? It's become more clear than you're military. I know that my though process (and I read the same thing in Didd's lack of desire to be VP when MiX had asked) was being miltary and being unsure of the turning point, I was not interested. Especially with MiX as President, as his play style could easily lend him to getting brigged. (in fact, I think the only thing saving him right now from being brigged is the fact that he's the president)

So why is it you put your name in the running?

This is an entirely reasonable question! That I'm not going to answer

Why do you defy your own president's platform:

Answering questions is fun and helpful which helps all alignments involved.

I was added to the ticket to appeal to heartland voters, we actually disagree on several key policy points