Oh, LaLi, just when I think we are making progress toward building trust.... Alas. I fully admit that I am challenging myself to keep up with this game and that I am sometimes, or perhaps even often, posting without a real sense of what is going on. There are a couple of reasons. One, real life is a lot for me right now. Two, I’m in another game that is pretty time consuming. The real life part is the reason for the lack of lightheartedness, and also there are more than a couple of folks in this game who do not enjoy my fluffy fluff. I really do try not to annoy anyone on purpose.
So, let’s get to the specific stuff!
ok, I'll try to make this case, but note that it's based more on feelings than anything.
Here's one of the instances where I feel like WCD is uneasy about posting. I know it's quite normal, but practically all the post I read seem a bit "forced to say anything useful" and lack lightheartedness I expect from WCD.
Although its been a couple of days, there hasn't actually been much discussion beyond those points. Ash has lept us focused on the various alignment questions and I can't figure out why those are important, but then again, I am not confused so maybe I'm just not getting it. I don't like voting until I am am feeling more confident, but if you made me vote right now, it would be for Ash.
I find mathdude’s response to MiX entirely in line with how others of us have responded to MiX in the past. He IS controlling and bossy, so that read is dead on. Aggravating MiX is a badge of honor. It’s super towny of math to respond this way, I think.
And here starts the ADK paradox. Try to find out if WCD scumreads ADK or not. Also I must say, a LOT of her posts are about ADK, which may or may not be indicative of something.
I really enjoy ADK as a human and as a player. However, over the last year by inability to trust or read them has really hurt town in at least two games. So, I have been working on it. I’ve been working on other things regarding my game play, too, but those are more general “do better, post more meaningfully, and figure out more” kinds of efforts. My ADK effort is specific. So, in this game, after my initial read, I found ADK scummy. So, I shared that. But then I almost immediately started rethinking because of this tendency.
vote: Jack Rudd I had him and ADK on my scummiest list earlier and ADK has slipped a bit into the next-scummiest area as of late leaving Jack at the top of my list alone.
I will move to my next scummiest person as my just in case I don't get back to this tomorrow evening placeholder.
vote: ADK
Here's the backpedaling
ADK doesn't normally lay so low. One of the hallmarks of ADK play is early RVS and then pressure for everyone else to vote, followed by a bunch of questions. None of that has happened in this game. Additionally, I was late to realizing this game has started. When I finished my initial (late) read, ADK was my top scumread because they were in favor of keeping LLs role information secret, whereas Space was in favor of sharing flavor information that about half the people had and half did not. I agreed with Space on that so found ADK a bit scummy and then they have haven't done much to change that.
That said, I have a TERRIBLE record of misexiling ADK so I am not taking my sense too seriously because of how often that sense has led me astray. But that is where I am right now.
so are you suspecting them or not?
I take issue with the phrase backpedaling. That makes it sound like rethinking is a bad thing. I suspected them more on D1 than I do today (and the reasons in that post are legitimate reasons based on experience) although I now also have more pieces of information (that I didn’t realize until later than I should I have) that have me scrutinizing a smaller group of folks more carefully. All of this is to say, I am tempering my ADK reads with my history of bad ADK reads.
I think ADK generally likes to have as little revealed as possible. This was a unique scenario because it was separating out flavor knowledge, not game knowledge. I believe ADK when they said that they did not intend to taunt anyone, though.
Here's another point towards forced posting:
This is what moved ADK down from my most scummy category and led me to vote for Jack yesterday.
Oh, I hate when this happens. My most scummy tier is Jack, ADK, and Robz but I am not certain enough about any of them to risk losing them this early. The next most scummy tier is mostly just folks who I haven't interacted with this game so not so much scummy as null, but not towny, and MiX who I am wary of but I don't find him out of the ordinary. The remainder of that tier is swowl, efhw, dylan, lalight, and ash. I have mathdude, scolapasta, awaclus, and space in my towniest tier.
The Robz and MiX wagons seem to me to be based on nothing. We've agreed that Jack is a bad idea. ADK isn't getting any traction, and I fully admit my inability to read them correctly.
Swowl and MiX are each voting for someone in my towniest tier, so there is that. The remainder of my next-scummiest tier (efhw, ash, and dylan) are pretty much a toss up.
vote: Dylan because there isn't anything there to even evaluate
PPE: Mix's list
Forced posting? That is unfair. I was explaining that all of the people I had initially found scummy were off the table for D1 for a variety of reasons. How I was currently reading the other folks is useful and pro-town. Disparaging a reads list as scummy, not for what it says but because it exists, is a reach.
The other post was the post count
Oh no! Mathdude can't catch a freaking break.
Awaclus is reading even more town than he was before. It sounds like there was a chance his choice could have saved math, but it didn't work out. Bummer.
As much as I LOVE a qt, I do not want to be the VP. ADK is not a bad choice.
All hail the new VP!
MiX, have you had an opportunity to chat with ADK yet? Any better read on them?
That's pretty much it for D1 other than some fluff.
Also what seems suspicious to me, that despite me repeatedly saying I scumread WCD, she never responded to any of that, thinking maybe "if i ignore it maybe it'll go away". Don't exile scola, let's exile WCD with me
yeah, sorry, can't vote
Interesting that you call my posts fluff here when one of your reasons against me is lack of lightheartedness. A didds can’t catch a break...
I haven’t responded to you until now because you haven’t expressed anything beyond “WCD is scummy”. Now that you have, I have responded. It’s pretty much impossible to answer a “I feel like” position with anything more than “uhm, okay”. You have had this feeling about me for awhile, and even as situations have shifted, you haven’t reevaluated or articulated a reason. I find that disappointing, but not scummy.