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[scolapasta]

Also,

vote: Dylan

His VLA was supposedly over the this weekend, yet he's still been very absent. Let's here what you (and other lurkers) think about the events of last night.

[faust]

Vote Count 1.9

Robz888 (1): EFHW
MiX (3): ashersky, Robz888, SpaceAnemone
EFHW (2): A Drowned Kernel, Awaclus
Dylan32 (3): WestCoastDidds, MiX, scolapasta

Not Voting (4): LaLight, Dylan32, Jack Rudd, Swowl

With 13 alive, it takes 7 to exile. Day 1 ends March 25, 2021, 03:30:00 am. This is in about 40 hours.

[Awaclus]

Awaclus, could you elaborate on how the option to spare mathdude were presented? I could imagine depending on wording that it could just have been the difference between incapacitate (which is the equivalent of a NK) and an actual character death, which we know is *somehow* possible.

That is a possibility. Nothing in particular about the message makes me think that would be the case, but nothing contradicts it either.

I'm not sure you've been quite as towny as you think you've been, but I do think it's interesting to hear that's your thinking. If that's been your goal, I wonder if this is something you actually chose to do in order to further cement your towniness (also knows as Advanced WIFOM 201). In that case, the 2 fewer points for switching would be a nice touch.

I don't think this is a misrepresentation of the situation:

in this game it didn't look like people were strongly townreading me even though mostly they weren't suspicious of me either

[scolapasta]

Awaclus, could you elaborate on how the option to spare mathdude were presented? I could imagine depending on wording that it could just have been the difference between incapacitate (which is the equivalent of a NK) and an actual character death, which we know is *somehow* possible.

That is a possibility. Nothing in particular about the message makes me think that would be the case, but nothing contradicts it either.

I'm not sure you've been quite as towny as you think you've been, but I do think it's interesting to hear that's your thinking. If that's been your goal, I wonder if this is something you actually chose to do in order to further cement your towniness (also knows as Advanced WIFOM 201). In that case, the 2 fewer points for switching would be a nice touch.

I don't think this is a misrepresentation of the situation:

in this game it didn't look like people were strongly townreading me even though mostly they weren't suspicious of me either

Like I said Advanced WIFOM 201, now agreeing with me that you might purposefully be trying to be extra towny.

Vote: Awaclus

For those with more experience in these types of RMM, do we think that this is a once per game kinda thing; or should we be wary that whatever triggered it could happen again and cause Awaclus to stab someone else?

[Awaclus]

Awaclus, could you elaborate on how the option to spare mathdude were presented? I could imagine depending on wording that it could just have been the difference between incapacitate (which is the equivalent of a NK) and an actual character death, which we know is *somehow* possible.

That is a possibility. Nothing in particular about the message makes me think that would be the case, but nothing contradicts it either.

I'm not sure you've been quite as towny as you think you've been, but I do think it's interesting to hear that's your thinking. If that's been your goal, I wonder if this is something you actually chose to do in order to further cement your towniness (also knows as Advanced WIFOM 201). In that case, the 2 fewer points for switching would be a nice touch.

I don't think this is a misrepresentation of the situation:

in this game it didn't look like people were strongly townreading me even though mostly they weren't suspicious of me either

Like I said Advanced WIFOM 201, now agreeing with me that you might purposefully be trying to be extra towny.

Vote: Awaclus

I quoted myself contradicting the narrative you were trying to paint of me, I don't think that counts as agreeing with you.

For those with more experience in these types of RMM, do we think that this is a once per game kinda thing; or should we be wary that whatever triggered it could happen again and cause Awaclus to stab someone else?

It seems likely that it's a once per game thing and specific to me and mathdude. It would be pretty ridiculous for scum to have a power that kills a townie and potentially recruits another townie, unless they have no NK.

[Robz888]

Vote: Awaclus

[MiX]

How was I supposed to know that pressing that button that glowed "DO NOT PRESS ME" would make Awaclus crazy??

What does this mean?

And no, I refuse anyone trying to imply I would kill math. If you think that is possible, you aren't trying to play the game seriously.

[Swowl]

Sigh...........I couldn't even protect math. I feel so useless right now, all the things we talked about, everything that we did privately and publicly...useless, now.

Okay, now for bureaucratic things...I'm a civilian, of course, and now I need to pick a VP. If anyone wants to speak up regarding this, do so.

pretty sure you have to wait until the next "even night", so you got some time.

[Swowl]

Thing I do not get here is why Awaclus would choose Math, if Awaclus made the choice. I mean I can think of a reason, but I still don't think they would really try to set MiX up that obviously.

Not sure how that makes me feel about skummy v not skummy on Awaclus here.

[MiX]

Sigh...........I couldn't even protect math. I feel so useless right now, all the things we talked about, everything that we did privately and publicly...useless, now.

Okay, now for bureaucratic things...I'm a civilian, of course, and now I need to pick a VP. If anyone wants to speak up regarding this, do so.

pretty sure you have to wait until the next "even night", so you got some time.

No, I do have to pick one today.

[Swowl]

ooooo cuz you just got the job right right. carry on.

[SpaceAnemone]

I also thought that Awaclus made sense as Boomer, and hadn't considered Billy. I was about add, for the benefit of the thread at large, that Billy is another non-military character, then I remembered that the main person who'd shown interest in the miltary-civilian division was Mathdude :-( It is generally a pretty Cylon-ish thing to do just to unexpectedly kill someone, though. That would be Cylon in the species sense, not necessarily always Cylon-aligned in the probable-game-wincon sense.

As for the third party hypothesis: it's kind of weird, by which I mean it definitely didn't occur to me. If it's also not that obvious to others, we should consider that this could be one of those many times when MiX's conclusions are strongly coloured by what MiX himself knows about the game, i.e. does MiX have any special knowledge about  third parties?

As for VP-ness, I do not have enough hours in the day to cope with a MiX QT, and have no strong sense of townieness on anyone else.

[Awaclus]

Thing I do not get here is why Awaclus would choose Math, if Awaclus made the choice.

I didn't.

[Jack Rudd]

Billy's a pretty minor figure in the show overall, and isn't a playable character in the board game, so it's slightly surprising that he was a character in this, but hey ho.

[Awaclus]

As for the third party hypothesis: it's kind of weird, by which I mean it definitely didn't occur to me. If it's also not that obvious to others, we should consider that this could be one of those many times when MiX's conclusions are strongly coloured by what MiX himself knows about the game, i.e. does MiX have any special knowledge about  third parties?

I don't think it's likely that a third party (or anyone, besides faust) caused this to happen on purpose, but I also don't think it's weird to consider the possibility of third parties existing in an RMM. For example, I took that into account when I specified that the Cylon-aligned faction is the red team.

[Awaclus]

Vote: Robz888

no u

[MiX]

I also thought that Awaclus made sense as Boomer, and hadn't considered Billy. I was about add, for the benefit of the thread at large, that Billy is another non-military character, then I remembered that the main person who'd shown interest in the miltary-civilian division was Mathdude :-( It is generally a pretty Cylon-ish thing to do just to unexpectedly kill someone, though. That would be Cylon in the species sense, not necessarily always Cylon-aligned in the probable-game-wincon sense.

As for the third party hypothesis: it's kind of weird, by which I mean it definitely didn't occur to me. If it's also not that obvious to others, we should consider that this could be one of those many times when MiX's conclusions are strongly coloured by what MiX himself knows about the game, i.e. does MiX have any special knowledge about  third parties?

As for VP-ness, I do not have enough hours in the day to cope with a MiX QT, and have no strong sense of townieness on anyone else.

You can consider what I know, but that wouldn't be pro-town.

ooooo cuz you just got the job right right. carry on.

Do you have any opinion on who I should pick as VP?

As for the third party hypothesis: it's kind of weird, by which I mean it definitely didn't occur to me. If it's also not that obvious to others, we should consider that this could be one of those many times when MiX's conclusions are strongly coloured by what MiX himself knows about the game, i.e. does MiX have any special knowledge about  third parties?

I don't think it's likely that a third party (or anyone, besides faust) caused this to happen on purpose, but I also don't think it's weird to consider the possibility of third parties existing in an RMM. For example, I took that into account when I specified that the Cylon-aligned faction is the red team.

Speaking about cylon-aligned, can you elaborate on what the scum faction is, without quoting?

Vote: Robz888

no u

How do I ask a question about this vote that you will answer...

Do you think Robz is scum?

Do you think your vote on Robz is the best you could do here?

Would you vote for someone else if the wagons looked differently? If so, who?

[Awaclus]

Speaking about cylon-aligned, can you elaborate on what the scum faction is, without quoting?

I have already said everything that I know: their name (Cylon-aligned), their color (red) and their win con (the same win con that scum always has). It's nothing groundbreaking but I thought it was worth sharing anyway.

How do I ask a question about this vote that you will answer...

Do you think Robz is scum?

Do you think your vote on Robz is the best you could do here?

Would you vote for someone else if the wagons looked differently? If so, who?

1) Yes.

2) If I thought there was something better I could do here, I would obviously do that other thing instead.

3) Not at the moment.

[Awaclus]

By the way, it's kind of interesting that mathdude getting almost killed didn't reset the vote count. If someone had had 7 votes when it happened, I guess they would have gotten insta-exiled as soon as the day continued.

[Swowl]

ooooo cuz you just got the job right right. carry on.

Do you have any opinion on who I should pick as VP?

I am mulling it over. Need to decide if I wanna throw my hat in the ring or not before I consider others. I'll get a short list to you though sometime today once I have thought it through.

[A Drowned Kernel]

ooooo cuz you just got the job right right. carry on.

Do you have any opinion on who I should pick as VP?

I am mulling it over. Need to decide if I wanna throw my hat in the ring or not before I consider others. I'll get a short list to you though sometime today once I have thought it through.

I'm going to have to ask you not to throw your hat in the ring

[scolapasta]

ooooo cuz you just got the job right right. carry on.

Do you have any opinion on who I should pick as VP?

I am mulling it over. Need to decide if I wanna throw my hat in the ring or not before I consider others. I'll get a short list to you though sometime today once I have thought it through.

I'm going to have to ask you not to throw your hat in the ring

Why? Specifically Swowl, or do you want to be unopposed?

[A Drowned Kernel]

ooooo cuz you just got the job right right. carry on.

Do you have any opinion on who I should pick as VP?

I am mulling it over. Need to decide if I wanna throw my hat in the ring or not before I consider others. I'll get a short list to you though sometime today once I have thought it through.

I'm going to have to ask you not to throw your hat in the ring

Why? Specifically Swowl, or do you want to be unopposed?

Specifically swowl, and because of reasons

[Swowl]

ooooo cuz you just got the job right right. carry on.

Do you have any opinion on who I should pick as VP?

I am mulling it over. Need to decide if I wanna throw my hat in the ring or not before I consider others. I'll get a short list to you though sometime today once I have thought it through.

I'm going to have to ask you not to throw your hat in the ring

Why? Specifically Swowl, or do you want to be unopposed?

Specifically swowl, and because of reasons

We will stop talking about this now.

[Swowl]

that comes off bossy.
It would not be beneficial to talk about this further right now.

And yeah, I don't wanna be VP.

I would be fine with ADK as VP.