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[Swowl]

if I could, I'd vote ADK rn

I am going to politely insist on your reasoning behind that. You can tell me later though if you want.

[Swowl]

Robz.

why? you don't adhere to the LAL concept generally.

[MiX]

Robz.

why? you don't adhere to the LAL concept generally.

I've been saying exile Robz for most of this day. He seems to just be agreeing to things and not actually doing town!Robz things. A more consistent reason will have to be given when I'm not falling asleep.

[Dylan32]

Hey everybody. Sorry for my extended absence to start this game. I'm back from a week of travel, mostly rested and ready to go. I'm going to start catching up now. I may not do my normal react to everything type of post I've done in other games since 15 pages is a lot, but I'm here and should be active the rest of the way out! Let the reading begin...

[Swowl]

vote: Robz

Care to add anything to that?  Or is that your contribution?

New data shows he is the biggest lurker.

It is Robz on Day 1. It would be skummy if he was posting a lot. The fact they are lurking should tell you absolutely nothing... if anything it should tell you he is acting towny.

Anyone have a reason for voting Robz that isn't "lurking"?
PPE - Mix response noted. will wait for that rise and shine reasoning.

[Awaclus]

This seems interesting. Vote: EFHW

Is Robz your scum buddy?

Good question! No.

This seems interesting. Vote: EFHW

I would still like to hear your response to my question about your ADK vote.

I know.

[Robz888]

Yeah I realize I’m not providing much. Day 1 is bad. We should exile soon and get it over with.

[LaLight]

if I could, I'd vote ADK rn

I am going to politely insist on your reasoning behind that. You can tell me later though if you want.

sorry, but I am not really into explaining as of now. also Didds is high on my scum!radar now and this I can explain, but probably half a day later, swamped now

[Dylan32]

Ok, I got distracted but got halfway through the game trying to go slow and keep who did what straight in my head, but it's bedtime now (aka a couple hours ago).  As of now (through roughly page 10) I don't want to exile math, scola, or ash, and to a lesser extent MiX.

[faust]

Vote Count 1.7

Robz888 (3): MiX, mathdude, EFHW
MiX (3): ashersky, Robz888, SpaceAnemone
scolapasta (1): Swowl
A Drowned Kernel (1): WestCoastDidds
EFHW (2): A Drowned Kernel, Awaclus

Not Voting (4): LaLight, Dylan32, scolapasta, Jack Rudd

With 14 alive, it takes 8 to exile. Day 1 ends March 23, 2021, 03:30:00 am. This is in a bit over a day.

[ashersky]

Robz not caring about D1 is neutral to town Robz.  Move on.

[ashersky]

I think of the remaining possibilities, MiX is still my top choice.

If I had to switch, I could also vote MiX.  In a pinch, you could also convince me that MiX would be an okay D1 exile.

[ashersky]

The "no one take actions and we go for E-1 for everyone if there's an NK" plan is towny, even if it wouldn't work for some reason.  Town points to that player (ADK?).

Also, I'd definitely do it if it was agreed upon.

[MiX]

Robz not caring about D1 is neutral to town Robz.  Move on.

Okay, yes. You are right. You are also town.

Unvote

The "no one take actions and we go for E-1 for everyone if there's an NK" plan is towny, even if it wouldn't work for some reason.  Town points to that player (ADK?).

Also, I'd definitely do it if it was agreed upon.

It was ADK.

[MiX]

Rereading everyone individually. ISO, was it? I think that's what reading people individually was called.

Vote: Space for being the first one I reread by being the first one in the player list (I'm not exiling Jack today), so it's mostly a placeholder.

[MiX]

Jack is not being exiled today. Just no. Null otherwise.

Space is somewhat scummy, although I would be lying if I said I remember why I voted them earlier. Not a big scumread, it's probably just me disagreeing with them.

Didds is really towny.

EFHW is not ringing scum bells all over me, so she's towny. She's also towny independently, but I don't trust my town bells on EFHW. The vote on Robz specifically matches perfectly with what I would assume town!EFHW is thinking, reading her posts.

scola is less towny than they were before, but I don't really want to exile them.

LL is towny, but I didn't reread them today because it doesn't matter at all.

There's obviously no content from Dylan, but the few there is puts him at sliiiiiiightly townier than not. I would still exile him.

ADK is towny, of course, nothing really changed there. He's not 100% town because ADK is a very good player, but otherwise I don't really see him be scum this game.

Swowl towl, I don't need to read every post to know that Swowl cannot be scum this game.

Robz has unfortunately done Robz things, I disagree with basically everything but that's normal, it doesn't make him scummy.

ash is towny, I don't really want to reread them, I'll defend ash unconditionally today.

Awaclus...is not towny. He's scummy. This is where I want my vote to be. I would also want Awaclus alive, but the best scum is a dead scum.

math is town due to QT things and also he revealed he was town when I did that gambit. And also he shouldn't be exiled today regardless. And you wouldn't want me as the president, right? That just sounds wrong on all levels.

Vote: Awaclus is where I'm at. Reads are:

Town: math, ash, Swowl

Towny: Didds, scola, ADK, LL, EFHW

Null: Jack, Dylan, Robz

Scummy: Space

Scum: Awaclus

[MiX]

NAI stuff: that post looks really hard to read. How should I organize it to make it easier to read in the future? Should I make a separate post for the reads list and the vote? Should each person have more detail on my read on them but spread them out over multiple posts? I'm not sure...

[WestCoastDidds]

The "no one take actions and we go for E-1 for everyone if there's an NK" plan is towny, even if it wouldn't work for some reason.  Town points to that player (ADK?).

Also, I'd definitely do it if it was agreed upon.

It was ADK.

This is what moved ADK down from my most scummy category and led me to vote for Jack yesterday.

Oh, I hate when this happens.  My most scummy tier is Jack, ADK, and Robz but I am not certain enough about any of them to risk losing them this early. The next most scummy tier is mostly just folks who I haven't interacted with this game so not so much scummy as null, but not towny, and MiX who I am wary of but I don't find him out of the ordinary.  The remainder of that tier is swowl, efhw, dylan, lalight, and ash.  I have mathdude, scolapasta, awaclus, and space in my towniest tier.

The Robz and MiX wagons seem to me to be based on nothing. We've agreed that Jack is a bad idea.  ADK isn't getting any traction, and I fully admit my inability to read them correctly.

Swowl and MiX are each voting for someone in my towniest tier, so there is that. The remainder of my next-scummiest tier (efhw, ash, and dylan) are pretty much a toss up. 

vote: Dylan because there isn't anything there to even evaluate

PPE: Mix's list

[MiX]

I can do

Vote: Dylan if you want, I'm not against it.

[EFHW]

This seems interesting. Vote: EFHW

Is Robz your scum buddy?

No! Why do you ask?

[Awaclus]

This seems interesting. Vote: EFHW

Is Robz your scum buddy?

No! Why do you ask?

How do you know that Robz is not my scum buddy?

[EFHW]

vote: Robz

Care to add anything to that?  Or is that your contribution?

New data shows he is the biggest lurker.

It is Robz on Day 1. It would be skummy if he was posting a lot. The fact they are lurking should tell you absolutely nothing... if anything it should tell you he is acting towny.

Anyone have a reason for voting Robz that isn't "lurking"?
PPE - Mix response noted. will wait for that rise and shine reasoning.

This is a problematic approach that has also come up recently about Galzria. The incentivews are all wrong. Everyone finds D1 hard. Why should some people get to consistently sit out while the others do the work?

[EFHW]

This seems interesting. Vote: EFHW

Is Robz your scum buddy?

No! Why do you ask?

How do you know that Robz is not my scum buddy?

LOL. I was so focused on the vote: Me, that I assumed the question was for me!

[MiX]

vote: Robz

Care to add anything to that?  Or is that your contribution?

New data shows he is the biggest lurker.

It is Robz on Day 1. It would be skummy if he was posting a lot. The fact they are lurking should tell you absolutely nothing... if anything it should tell you he is acting towny.

Anyone have a reason for voting Robz that isn't "lurking"?
PPE - Mix response noted. will wait for that rise and shine reasoning.

This is a problematic approach that has also come up recently about Galzria. The incentivews are all wrong. Everyone finds D1 hard. Why should some people get to consistently sit out while the others do the work?

D1 is easy, you just need other people to play along. There's like no pressure and it's the only day where you can be completely off the wall and only say the wrong things for the wrong reasons and out like every single town PR to scum and you're still fine, because hey it's D1 who cares. And sometimes you just make the game so much easier for all the future days. It's the pure reads day, where mechanics be damned, there's no VCA, no flips, just you and everyone else that is playing the game, saying why people are town and scum and voting accordingly. Think about it: why is it fine to kill town D1? It's because the game is town favoured D1, and it's up to town to take advantage of that.

This seems interesting. Vote: EFHW

Is Robz your scum buddy?

No! Why do you ask?

How do you know that Robz is not my scum buddy?

LOL. I was so focused on the vote: Me, that I assumed the question was for me!

This is scummy

Awaclus' response is also scummy...but that might be tunneling.

[ashersky]

vote: Robz

Care to add anything to that?  Or is that your contribution?

New data shows he is the biggest lurker.

It is Robz on Day 1. It would be skummy if he was posting a lot. The fact they are lurking should tell you absolutely nothing... if anything it should tell you he is acting towny.

Anyone have a reason for voting Robz that isn't "lurking"?
PPE - Mix response noted. will wait for that rise and shine reasoning.

This is a problematic approach that has also come up recently about Galzria. The incentivews are all wrong. Everyone finds D1 hard. Why should some people get to consistently sit out while the others do the work?

They shouldn't.  But they do.  For some it is because they can be game changers in the mid- or late-game.  For others, maybe it's just a nod to veteran status.