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Re: RMM59: Battlestar Galactica Legacy - Season 1 (Day 1)
« Reply #325 on: March 21, 2021, 09:59:07 am »

prod request: Dylan

I believe Dylan has a VLA in effect up until today-ish, though it's not actually posted on the VLA board.
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Re: RMM59: Battlestar Galactica Legacy - Season 1 (Day 1)
« Reply #326 on: March 21, 2021, 10:06:36 am »

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Re: RMM59: Battlestar Galactica Legacy - Season 1 (Day 1)
« Reply #327 on: March 21, 2021, 12:21:56 pm »

I have a super busy tomorrow, and although I should be around in the evening, I have some fear of having the day get away from me.

vote: Jack Rudd  I had him and ADK on my scummiest list earlier and ADK has slipped a bit into the next-scummiest area as of late leaving Jack at the top of my list alone. 
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Re: RMM59: Battlestar Galactica Legacy - Season 1 (Day 1)
« Reply #328 on: March 21, 2021, 02:04:23 pm »

I am all against Jack Rudd exile. ADK is a good exile, as well as Robz, I guess
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Re: RMM59: Battlestar Galactica Legacy - Season 1 (Day 1)
« Reply #329 on: March 21, 2021, 02:04:45 pm »

if I could, I'd vote ADK rn
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Re: RMM59: Battlestar Galactica Legacy - Season 1 (Day 1)
« Reply #330 on: March 21, 2021, 02:09:20 pm »

I am all against Jack Rudd exile. ADK is a good exile, as well as Robz, I guess

Why against Jack Rudd? I get the only argument for really is lack of content.
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Re: RMM59: Battlestar Galactica Legacy - Season 1 (Day 1)
« Reply #331 on: March 21, 2021, 02:15:01 pm »

I am all against Jack Rudd exile. ADK is a good exile, as well as Robz, I guess

Why against Jack Rudd? I get the only argument for really is lack of content.

because they're new and smart. D1 is hard for a new players, because there's not a lot to go off of and I would give them a pass to see if maybe later when we have more info, they would shine.
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Re: RMM59: Battlestar Galactica Legacy - Season 1 (Day 1)
« Reply #332 on: March 21, 2021, 02:24:46 pm »

I too am against a Jack Rudd exile. We should really not exile newbies on Day 1 without an extraordinarily compelling reason.
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Re: RMM59: Battlestar Galactica Legacy - Season 1 (Day 1)
« Reply #333 on: March 21, 2021, 03:45:32 pm »

I too am against a Jack Rudd exile. We should really not exile newbies on Day 1 without an extraordinarily compelling reason.

I agree with this a lot.

I have a super busy tomorrow, and although I should be around in the evening, I have some fear of having the day get away from me.

vote: Jack Rudd  I had him and ADK on my scummiest list earlier and ADK has slipped a bit into the next-scummiest area as of late leaving Jack at the top of my list alone.

I feel like Didds is one of the biggest community-builders we have here, so I find it really odd that she apparently doesn't share the sentiment.
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Re: RMM59: Battlestar Galactica Legacy - Season 1 (Day 1)
« Reply #334 on: March 21, 2021, 05:54:13 pm »

Oh! I have played a fair amount of codenames with Jack so I wasn't thinking of him as new, but I see now that is an oversight. I met him about the same time I met scolapasta, so I think of having played with both them for about the same amount of time so I wasn't thinking of him as new, just as deliberately lurking. I definitely do not want to alienate anyone from our community!

I will move to my next scummiest person as my just in case I don't get back to this tomorrow evening placeholder.
vote: ADK
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Re: RMM59: Battlestar Galactica Legacy - Season 1 (Day 1)
« Reply #335 on: March 21, 2021, 05:54:42 pm »

if I could, I'd vote ADK rn

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Re: RMM59: Battlestar Galactica Legacy - Season 1 (Day 1)
« Reply #336 on: March 21, 2021, 06:19:28 pm »

if I could, I'd vote ADK rn

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I don't get it. There's nothing in the last 50 posts to indicate why people would be anti-ADK.
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Re: RMM59: Battlestar Galactica Legacy - Season 1 (Day 1)
« Reply #337 on: March 21, 2021, 06:25:48 pm »

I haven't played with ADK or scolapasta before, so I'm not sure what to think of them yet.  But if it will possibly generate more discussion, let's make this a 3-way race for now.  Obviously we need to get to a 2-way race soon, and then actually pick 1 to exile.  But let's see what happens when we start building wagons on 3.

Vote: ADK

So I believe that's multiple votes now on ADK, MiX, and scolapasta.  Anyone want to defend any of them?  Or jump on one of those wagons?

PPE... like this!

if I could, I'd vote ADK rn

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I don't get it. There's nothing in the last 50 posts to indicate why people would be anti-ADK.
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Re: RMM59: Battlestar Galactica Legacy - Season 1 (Day 1)
« Reply #338 on: March 21, 2021, 06:28:29 pm »

I agree, Scola, on how odd today has been. Deadline is super early (like 3am) on Monday night/Tuesday morning so it’s getting on in hours.

My best guesses for scum, right now, are ADK and Jack Rudd.
In my next scummiest are MiX and Rob.
Going back another 50, there is this from Didds, her only game related post on that page.

I'm doing a page at a time because I'm on my phone, but it's not a bad way get a feel for things.
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Re: RMM59: Battlestar Galactica Legacy - Season 1 (Day 1)
« Reply #339 on: March 21, 2021, 06:35:35 pm »

Vote: ADK
Here's another unexplained vote. I'm probably not going to get an answer,  but Awaclus, could you share your reasoning with us?
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Re: RMM59: Battlestar Galactica Legacy - Season 1 (Day 1)
« Reply #340 on: March 21, 2021, 06:46:14 pm »

It's more that I think it's a bad idea to reveal information about LL's role for no reason in case that information is of benefit to scum
I think might have bern the opinion that offended LL, at least.
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Re: RMM59: Battlestar Galactica Legacy - Season 1 (Day 1)
« Reply #341 on: March 21, 2021, 06:50:19 pm »

if I could, I'd vote ADK rn

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I don't get it. There's nothing in the last 50 posts to indicate why people would be anti-ADK.

I think it's because I'm generally an easy exile
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Re: RMM59: Battlestar Galactica Legacy - Season 1 (Day 1)
« Reply #342 on: March 21, 2021, 06:52:11 pm »

I think we should do a lurker exile. Based on 288/289, with Dylan vla, that points to
vote: Didds. Fits with the arbitrary ADK vote, as well.
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Re: RMM59: Battlestar Galactica Legacy - Season 1 (Day 1)
« Reply #343 on: March 21, 2021, 06:58:34 pm »

I think we should do a lurker exile. Based on 288/289, with Dylan vla, that points to
vote: Didds. Fits with the arbitrary ADK vote, as well.

Not to play servings devil's advocate for my own exile but why am I not a lurker exile?
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Re: RMM59: Battlestar Galactica Legacy - Season 1 (Day 1)
« Reply #344 on: March 21, 2021, 07:09:41 pm »

I haven't played with ADK or scolapasta before, so I'm not sure what to think of them yet.  But if it will possibly generate more discussion, let's make this a 3-way race for now.  Obviously we need to get to a 2-way race soon, and then actually pick 1 to exile.  But let's see what happens when we start building wagons on 3.

Vote: ADK

So I believe that's multiple votes now on ADK, MiX, and scolapasta.  Anyone want to defend any of them?  Or jump on one of those wagons?

PPE... like this!

if I could, I'd vote ADK rn

I got you, boo!
I don't get it. There's nothing in the last 50 posts to indicate why people would be anti-ADK.

Yes I would like to defend all of them, I think ADK and scola are very townie, and I'm a bad exile (I'm also town).

if I could, I'd vote ADK rn

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I don't get it. There's nothing in the last 50 posts to indicate why people would be anti-ADK.

I think it's because I'm generally an easy exile

Only when you're town.

I think we should do a lurker exile. Based on 288/289, with Dylan vla, that points to
vote: Didds. Fits with the arbitrary ADK vote, as well.


Eh, that sounds unfun. I can see Didds be scum here, but from experience I would not try to read Didds day 1. I guess giving Didds a daypass every game isn't ideal, but...I still think it's good :P
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Re: RMM59: Battlestar Galactica Legacy - Season 1 (Day 1)
« Reply #345 on: March 21, 2021, 07:22:29 pm »

ADK doesn't normally lay so low. One of the hallmarks of ADK play is early RVS and then pressure for everyone else to vote, followed by a bunch of questions.  None of that has happened in this game. Additionally, I was late to realizing this game has started. When I finished my initial (late) read, ADK was my top scumread because they were in favor of keeping LLs role information secret, whereas Space was in favor of sharing flavor information that about half the people had and half did not.  I agreed with Space on that so found ADK a bit scummy and then they have haven't done much to change that.

That said, I have a TERRIBLE record of misexiling ADK so I am not taking my sense too seriously because of how often that sense has led me astray. But that is where I am right now.

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Re: RMM59: Battlestar Galactica Legacy - Season 1 (Day 1)
« Reply #346 on: March 21, 2021, 07:24:06 pm »

ADK doesn't normally lay so low. One of the hallmarks of ADK play is early RVS and then pressure for everyone else to vote, followed by a bunch of questions.  None of that has happened in this game. Additionally, I was late to realizing this game has started. When I finished my initial (late) read, ADK was my top scumread because they were in favor of keeping LLs role information secret, whereas Space was in favor of sharing flavor information that about half the people had and half did not.  I agreed with Space on that so found ADK a bit scummy and then they have haven't done much to change that.

That said, I have a TERRIBLE record of misexiling ADK so I am not taking my sense too seriously because of how often that sense has led me astray. But that is where I am right now.

As someone that typically townreads everyone that agrees with them, why do you think ADK being in favor of keeping LL's role a secret is scummy? Would town!ADK not do that?
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Re: RMM59: Battlestar Galactica Legacy - Season 1 (Day 1)
« Reply #347 on: March 21, 2021, 07:25:54 pm »

Also, I was thinking about the curfew, and there is a plan possible there, but I don't know how good it is. Basically if everyone just doesn't do any night actions, then if there's a nightkill tonight, we can just auto-exile scum tomorrow by putting everyone at L-1 in succession, right?

I like that idea, though presumably scum could no-kill and then we're in perpetual d1 with respect to the amount of investigative information available, which seems like a nightmare scenario for anyone who plays like me, where vote analysis and evidence are key :-P Do we have enough "reads" players to carry the game for town there?

Aside from that, though, I think there are just too many cats to herd at this stage of the game for it to be feasible. I'm sure we can all imagine a player who'd absolutely swear that they were correct to use their power in spite of such a plan if they thought it was strong, and not care that it messes up a town-wide plan. We've also got players who're surprisingly willing to self-vote if hammers become available, playing to meta as much as to their wincons. So I  think it might be risky.

Lastly, compulsive actions are definitely a thing in regular mafia, so I see no reason not to assume we may have townies with compulsive powers here. With so little known so far about how faust's particular game mechanics are realised, I think it's probably too early to go around demanding that everyone owns up to whether they have a compulsive action ahead of N1, which we'd probably have to do in order to stop scum using that excuse as a reason not to run them to E-1.

At first when I read this plan, I liked it, but you (and others) have brought up good arguements against.

Though I don't fully get the perpetual d1 aspect, as we *would* have the results of the first day brigging and that seems like it could be valuable.
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Re: RMM59: Battlestar Galactica Legacy - Season 1 (Day 1)
« Reply #348 on: March 21, 2021, 07:26:12 pm »

I haven't played with ADK or scolapasta before, so I'm not sure what to think of them yet.  But if it will possibly generate more discussion, let's make this a 3-way race for now.  Obviously we need to get to a 2-way race soon, and then actually pick 1 to exile.  But let's see what happens when we start building wagons on 3.

Vote: ADK

So I believe that's multiple votes now on ADK, MiX, and scolapasta.  Anyone want to defend any of them?  Or jump on one of those wagons?

PPE... like this!

if I could, I'd vote ADK rn

I got you, boo!
I don't get it. There's nothing in the last 50 posts to indicate why people would be anti-ADK.

Yes I would like to defend all of them, I think ADK and scola are very townie, and I'm a bad exile (I'm also town).

if I could, I'd vote ADK rn

I got you, boo!
I don't get it. There's nothing in the last 50 posts to indicate why people would be anti-ADK.

I think it's because I'm generally an easy exile

Only when you're town.

I think we should do a lurker exile. Based on 288/289, with Dylan vla, that points to
vote: Didds. Fits with the arbitrary ADK vote, as well.


Eh, that sounds unfun. I can see Didds be scum here, but from experience I would not try to read Didds day 1. I guess giving Didds a daypass every game isn't ideal, but...I still think it's good :P

Then who?
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Re: RMM59: Battlestar Galactica Legacy - Season 1 (Day 1)
« Reply #349 on: March 21, 2021, 07:26:50 pm »

Robz.
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