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[Awaclus]

Surprised no one has remarked yet on no one being incapacitated overnight. I forget who said it, but I guess we kind of are back to a D1 situation (yay.)

I will be unavailable most of the (real life) day today, so here are some quick thoughts.

I also am Hated x 1 (should we all report whether we are or not? or wait until we get further voted)

I'm ok with ash getting tested. Since it can be inaccurate, not sure how useful it really is anyway. I assume it's >50%, but it makes a big difference if it's 55 or 95.

I read the mandate as the next text, so if it gets declared before someone is tested, then it would be that day; if it's after, the next day.

Vote:Lalight (just to confirm what he claimed; I have no current reason to believe he is scum)

That vote might not count because the format is wrong. Vote: Lalight

[Swowl]

Ash - why do you wanna check yourself?
I would be fine with ash being checked, i would also be fine with me being checked.

Or mix, or adk, or Awaclus. Any of those.

Wheee was everyone at effing deadline btw?

[faust]

Vote Count 2.1

Not Voting (13): Jack Rudd, SpaceAnemone, WestCoastDidds, MiX, EFHW, scolapasta, LaLight, Dylan32, A Drowned Kernel, Swowl, Robz888, ashersky, Awaclus

With 13 alive, it takes 7 to exile. Day 2 ends April 03, 2021, 06:00:00 am.

[faust]

The following executive order has been enacted:

Isolate Colonial One
Any action targeting the President tonight will fail.

[SpaceAnemone]

Just checking in.. I haven't had time to go through this game in much more detail yet.

I'm fine with Ash doing the test if he's keen to volunteer. It would be useful to understand a bit more about how reliable its results are.

[ashersky]

undergo testing

[ashersky]

Let’s see what happens. 

[faust]

ashersky is a Cylon.

[ashersky]

That doesn’t match my flavor name.

Ah well, I assume we should exile me to be safe?

[ashersky]

Vote: ashersky

From what I know based on my role QT text and the Wiki entry I found on my flavor, I should not be a Cylon.

Since I am, I have to assume that makes me a danger to town, regardless of alignment.

Perhaps exile me with no further discussion is best to protect other town players and their info?

[ashersky]

Winning is all that matters to me, and exiling me seems to be the best way to do that based on my understanding of the game design and interaction with flavor.

Please, no one else post anything but votes for me.  Giving away any further info can hurt town if mafia wants to know it.

I will full claim now to help with everyone trying to figure out how this game works.

See you in the next game!

[ashersky]

My flavor is Galen Tyrol.  While in the show Galen is a military member, highest ranking NCO on board by the end of the show, in the game I am Civilian, which makes zero flavor sense but must make some sort of mechanics sense.

I have two powers, one which I will not explain but can be easily explained after I am dead.  The other is a basic recharger — target someone and give them a shot of a power they already have.  Fairly useless, but I guess fits with the mechanic flavor character.

Without revealing too much on character arc, I cared about human/cylon and wanted to find out for that.

I think that’s all I can share.  You’ll see two powers in my flip.

I have crap reads and can’t even point you in a direction. I still think MiX is mafia, but don’t really know about anyone else.

[ashersky]

Good luck everyone!

[ashersky]

Oh, also, my qt says human-aligned, but given Awaclus’s claim of alignment changes in the game, I don’t think we can trust that information.

(I realize that the mod-confirmed cylon result on myself could be a mod lie per the power explanation.  Without knowing the odds of that, even if we assume only 50/50, that’s a 50% chance I am actually mafia, even if I don’t know it.  That’s just way too high a percentage to ignore.)

[ashersky]

If I am a Cylon, which is different than alignment, we still absolutely must exile me.

It is unlikely that “Town-aligned Mafia” exists.  Even if being a member of the mafia is separate from being mafia-aligned, it is just very hard to reconcile.

[ashersky]

Sorry for stream of consciousness posting, but want to dump all thoughts in thread before enough people show up to hammer.  Should give everyone plenty to think about overnight and plenty to talk about on D3.

[ashersky]

Again, I cannot stress strongly enough that I truly believe any town player posting anything but a vote is playing directly against their win con.  More info from a player other than myself can only help mafia.  Since I am basically just twilight posting, it’s different.

Yes, my info will help mafia sort some stuff out on the setup, perhaps.  But they already have way more info (I assume) than players who received town-aligned QTs.  I’m hopeful that the information I’m providing helps the other real town players figure stuff out.

I guess I’m also hopeful that being exiled will reveal whatever my true alignment is so I know who to cheer for in the speccy. 

[ashersky]

Just checking in.. I haven't had time to go through this game in much more detail yet.

I'm fine with Ash doing the test if he's keen to volunteer. It would be useful to understand a bit more about how reliable its results are.

In response to this, the only way to know is exile, maybe?  The result does not match my flavor.  It does not match what I imagine my alignment to be.  It could be a lie, or just as easily I don’t know my true self.

I’m only doing what I can do, which is play toward the win con I think I have, which is town-aligned. 

[ashersky]

Although mathdude’s flip revealed nothing, so I assume mine won’t either.

I did notice a HUGE difference though that I think supports the possibility that I’m not actually human-aligned. 

For town-confirmed players, of whom we only have one, playername, flavorname, and alignment were all green.

In my QT, only one was green.  The rest were the neutral bold black, which is standard mod formatting for “unknown” data points.

Man, I’m an idiot for not noticing that in the first place...

[ashersky]

Welp, if I’m secretly Cylon-aligned as I suspect, I’m not helping my faction out.  Although it could just be much bigger than a normal mafia.

[ashersky]

Reflecting back on the “results could be wrong” portion of the examination thing, a greater than 50% chance of a lie seems too close to BM for faust’s style.  I feel like we can safely assume 50/50 as worse case.  Like, a 90% chance of a lie seems like a super yucky mechanic.

[ashersky]

Hmmm...I’ve got nothing else at this point.

As mentioned, not much on reads.  If I had to pick mafia right now, it’s MiX.  Choosing the self-serving power is super mafia-y.

Awaclus revealing the mathdude stuff was towny because he basically didn’t have to, right?  I could see mafia revealing a fake story to try for cred, but that’s too much trouble at that point, in my opinion.

LaLight, maybe Swowl seem towny?  Or just quiet.

No one else stands out.

[ashersky]

I’ll check back in later — if not enough players have checked in to vote, i might post more if anything comes to me.

Otherwise, see you next game!

[Awaclus]

This is ridiculous, there's no guarantee that canon flavor matches game flavor and we don't have any idea how the machine works except that we know the results aren't reliable.

[Awaclus]

For town-confirmed players, of whom we only have one, playername, flavorname, and alignment were all green.

In my QT, only one was green.  The rest were the neutral bold black, which is standard mod formatting for “unknown” data points.

That's how it is in my QT, too. I don't think it means anything.