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[MiX]

Wait, how was the winner's vote a tie? As I look at it, Day 1 plurality had ADK only, Kobol had 3/4 of the winner's runner up votes, separate military had 1 vote and 1 runner up vote, and term limits had 1 vote.

Runner up votes are only considered if the main vote was on the majority's vote (in this case, in Special Counsel).

[Dylan32]

Wait, how was the winner's vote a tie? As I look at it, Day 1 plurality had ADK only, Kobol had 3/4 of the winner's runner up votes, separate military had 1 vote and 1 runner up vote, and term limits had 1 vote.

Runner up votes are only considered if the main vote was on the majority's vote (in this case, in Special Counsel).

Yeah, just went back and looked and realized that. Yeah, in the original post announcing the votes, it said there would be one vote for everyone, then another round of voting just for the winners, so I thought the runner up votes were supposed to be that 2nd round of voting basically. But it's just completely different than what was originally said. ok.

[Dylan32]

By "original post announcing the votes," I meant this one:

With the game concluded, it is time to choose end-of-game modifications to the rules. There will be one communal vote on changes, and afterwards another vote only among the winners. The modifications to get the most votes will affect future games. You may vote No Change. Here are the possible modifications:

Game Modifications available

--snip--

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[mathdude]

It is time for the official vote! All players may vote for a modification by posting Vote: [Option]. Those who won the game may also post Runner-up. [Option]. The deadline for votes is May 04, 2021, 04:00:00 am.

When we reach the deadline, or when everyone placed a vote (whichever happens first), the modification that received the most votes will be done. Then, the modification that received the most votes from winners will be done. If any winner voted for the modification already done by everyone, then their runner-up vote will be considered instead.

And this was the clarification given when voting officially started... pretty clear here, I'd say.

[Dylan32]

Yeah, I saw that at the same time mix answered my original question, and I was just pointing out the disconnect that I saw. The latter version feels like a lot weaker of a reward for the winners than what the first post made it sound like.

[mathdude]

If the winners were around just before deadline, to adjust votes as needed, there would have been almost no difference between the two interpretations.

[Dylan32]

If the winners were around just before deadline, to adjust votes as needed, there would have been almost no difference between the two interpretations.

I mean, by even having to think about moving votes like that it's inherently very different, so this doesn't mean much. But it really doesn't matter now.

To be clear, I'm not asking faust to justify, change, or do anything, so no one needs to defend or explain anything. I overlooked the most recent instruction, and so the results didn't match my expectations based on the votes. It was clearly done correctly according to the most direct instructions, so I explained why I even raised the question in the first place and that it was my mistake based on reading a much earlier post. It's really no big deal. And besides, faust said he might look into different methods of voting in future rounds anyway, so if anything, just consider my comments as feedback to be considered in the future.

I think my only issue with the votes this round at all would be not considering the alternate votes as the method of breaking the tie as opposed to random roll, but I do like consolidating everything into one voting process instead of dragging it out with two distinct votes.

[scolapasta]

Dragging out wouldn't be so bad, though, since we're not starting S2 until Memento is done (or at least, much further along). And I'll assume that will likely be the case between every season break.

(I also misread the instructions, but in a different way; regardless, I think these changes will be fun)