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[jotheonah]

Mafia traitor would be rough role to pull first time out (or first time out in a new community). All the detriment of being scum, but without anyone to coach you.

[mcmcsalot]

Vote: Mathdude

In retrospect the post math made about town power roles screams of traitor as well.

Well, some people are active enough that I could find "reasons" I think pretty much any of them could be scum or reasons any of them could be town.  However, there is definitely TONS of useful interactions that have been happening, so that bodes well for tomorrow.  Town, we have to carefully use any PR's to make sure the results can be useful not only individually, but also in how the results may interact with those interactions... if that makes any sense.  (Getting a read on someone is helpful... but getting a read on someone that you're fairly certain is connected to another someone can be even more useful).

But now I'm torn between 2 options.  Do we try to vote someone out who we have mild suspicions of, who we can actually connect their reveal-on-exile to the statements made by others about them on day-1?  Or do we just go for the less active lurkers, to make sure they don't just hide through a couple days?

Yeah, sorry! Started a re-read of everyone earlier, but didn't finish it before the evening's social calls, and now it's past bedtime. Still have notes in another tab, but it will have to wait till tomorrow at this point. My sanity is on a lot thinner ground than it was in the beforetimes, so bedtime needs to be that bit more strict :-(

vote: Space
Reason: post more!

[WestCoastDidds]

That's the hammer?

Mathdude, regardless of your status, it has been awesome playing with you and I hope that you will play with us again soon!!  It really is great to have new folks join us.

[jotheonah]

That's the hammer?

Mathdude, regardless of your status, it has been awesome playing with you and I hope that you will play with us again soon!!  It really is great to have new folks join us.

Seconded. You have a bright future here.

[jotheonah]

also c'mon flipflipflipflipflip

[mathdude]

If I've read the rules/setup correctly, I believe I can still talk until a certain point... hammer down and flip to night are 2 different things.

Huh, at this stage you've pretty much outed yourself as scum or a strong scum target, so I'm not sure the benefit of keeping your specific role quiet outweighs the twin benefits of firstly saying exactly what it is so that town can collectively suggest targets and secondly being forced to say what it is so that if you're E-1 scum having to pick a claim, then at least we have a chance of outing you through forcing you to guess at something someone could counterclaim.

Sorry, town, I just don't know what your standards are here.  I'm used to still being vague when "claiming". and it appears I should not have done that.  Also, Real Life is a terrible thing.  It hasn't even been 2 hours since I somewhat-claimed.  And there wasn't an opportunity for me to address this issue (not knowing I should fully claim) since "intent to hammer" and "hammer" were only about 30 minutes apart.

I could see doing that if we were a few hours to end-of-day.  But it's still well over 24 hours away.  Definitely look at the opportunistic moves some people took!  We had time to sort this out (and wait for a full claim and a chance to counter-claim), but it got rushed... probably intentionally.

And now, having been officially exiled, as far as I can tell, with no chance of reversing... you have lost your roleblocker.  It could have been a useful role, but I would have needed a decent read on who to block.

[mathdude]

also c'mon flipflipflipflipflip

You really don't want me to have a chance to respond to this quick hammer, do you?  What are you trying to hide?  Youscum?

[jotheonah]

also c'mon flipflipflipflipflip

You really don't want me to have a chance to respond to this quick hammer, do you?  What are you trying to hide?  Youscum?

I just wanted the info. But now I have it. Any chance you're trolling us?

[mathdude]

No trolling.  I would have been much more subtle and careful if I was mafia (or traitor).

[MiX]

you have lost your roleblocker.

You should have fullclaimed. Or not claimed to be a PR at all.

Have fun in speccy!

[WestCoastDidds]

Yeah, the half hour intent to hammer/hammer combo is a bit tricky in the middle of a workday.

[Dylan32]

Assuming you are telling the truth, I can’t even point to anything you did “wrong” that isn’t explained by being the first game in a new community. I totally agree with joth that if you stick around, I have a feeling you’re gonna have some success around here.

I didn’t hate the initial partial claim. That was more of a specific confluence of setup, claim, and reads that led me to think you should full claim before backing off, and I wish you had gotten the chance to do so, because honestly I was wrong about which role I thought you were crumbing...

[gkrieg13]

you have lost your roleblocker.

You should have fullclaimed. Or not claimed to be a PR at all.

Have fun in speccy!

Cold

[MiX]

you have lost your roleblocker.

You should have fullclaimed. Or not claimed to be a PR at all.

Have fun in speccy!

Cold

Well yeah I am cold. I just killed math. I could've died instead of taking the roleblocker, but I went all in on a read I got at the start of the game.

I hate this D1 so much. Good job scum.

[WestCoastDidds]

Where did the warm and fuzzy MiX go??

[jotheonah]

you have lost your roleblocker.

You should have fullclaimed. Or not claimed to be a PR at all.

Have fun in speccy!

Cold

Well yeah I am cold. I just killed math. I could've died instead of taking the roleblocker, but I went all in on a read I got at the start of the game.

I hate this D1 so much. Good job scum.

Let's rate the authenticity of this outrage on a scale of 1 to 10.

[Swowl]

Vote Count 1.7:

mathdude (7): Dylan32, faust, Ashersky, Joth, EFHW, MiX, MCMC
MiX (5): gkrieg, WestCoastDidds, mathdude, SpaceAnenome, Robz888
Not Voting (0):

With 12 alive, it took 7 to Exile.
Night 1 starts now and ends Saturday, February 27th at 3:12pm Forum Time.
Night actions are due in 36 hours.


THREAD LOCKED!

[Swowl]

"It's mathdude! It has to be mathdude!"
   "Yes! They just show up out of no where and all of a sudden this starts happening???"
"But what of MiX? They are acting so unusual here!"
   "No! I have had enough of this... I am pulling the plug on mathdude..."

mathdude has been exiled! They were mathdude, the Town Aligned Roleblocker.

[Swowl]

Swowl, could you confirm whether it's possible in your interpretation of this set-up for us to have multiple copies of the same town role?

Fair question. The setup does in fact leave room for interpretation.
The way this specific game was set up - It is impossible for there to be multiple copies of the same town role.

[Swowl]

"Alright. Good morning everyone, time to get back at it. It seems we are short a few people...."




Robz888 has died at night! They were Robz888, the Town Bodyguard.

MCMCsalot has died at night! They were MCMCsalot, the Mafia JOAT.[/b]

[Swowl]

Vote Count 2.0:

Not Voting (9): WestCoastDidds, MiX, EFHW, faust, gkrieg, SpaceAnenome, Joth, Ashersky, Dylan32

With 9 alive, it takes 5 to Exile.
Day 2 starts now and ends Saturday, March 6th at 5:55pm Forum Time.

THREAD UNLOCKED!

[faust]

Nice shot! And chairs isn't even in this game...

There's a bunch to analyze with these flips but I won't have time to go into it at the moment.

[MiX]

Woah, both brother are dead. But hey, the vig got mcmc, hell yeah!

I need to setup the VC, I thought I was going to die, lol. I probably would've if Robz hadn't protected me, who knows.

Space's locktown, they were pushing mcmc all day long, just look back and see. Everything they said implied mcmc was scum.

So, where do we start today?

[SpaceAnemone]

I need to setup the VC, I thought I was going to die, lol. I probably would've if Robz hadn't protected me, who knows.

Robz was voting you at the end of D1. Unless I missed an unchallenged PR claim from you in the closing moments of D1, I see nothing that makes scum want to target you at all. Hint: this is not the time to be claiming PRs.

Space's locktown, they were pushing mcmc all day long, just look back and see. Everything they said implied mcmc was scum.

Mcmc was a lucky RVS I didn't quite shake when looking for better scum possibilities. Most of what I said pointed out how inconsistent and anti-town some of your play was. Or also pointing out that the correct play at the end of D1 would have been to force a possible-scum-mathdude into being pinned to a falsifiable claim, which I think would have been the correct townie play, hence pushing for it. What went down instead was a load of rushed nonsense, except that of course mcmc was playing it correctly for his wincon.

So, where do we start today?

I honestly quite like Vote: MiX.

[MiX]

I need to setup the VC, I thought I was going to die, lol. I probably would've if Robz hadn't protected me, who knows.

Robz was voting you at the end of D1. Unless I missed an unchallenged PR claim from you in the closing moments of D1, I see nothing that makes scum want to target you at all. Hint: this is not the time to be claiming PRs.

Space's locktown, they were pushing mcmc all day long, just look back and see. Everything they said implied mcmc was scum.

Mcmc was a lucky RVS I didn't quite shake when looking for better scum possibilities. Most of what I said pointed out how inconsistent and anti-town some of your play was. Or also pointing out that the correct play at the end of D1 would have been to force a possible-scum-mathdude into being pinned to a falsifiable claim, which I think would have been the correct townie play, hence pushing for it. What went down instead was a load of rushed nonsense, except that of course mcmc was playing it correctly for his wincon.

So, where do we start today?

I honestly quite like Vote: MiX.

I'm not letting you fight your way out of being locktown. Math fought his way out of a day pass, and look what happened. Read your D1, you fought against mcmc harder than anyone, and indirectly too, why would scum ever do this?

You could vote for scum instead. That vote's pointless.