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[EFHW]

Right now we have Eevee,  EFHW and Ipofanes. Anyone else interested?

[Galzria]

I’ll def /in if there’s a wait on a 4th - but would pass to anybody that wanted in.

[infangthief]

I'd like to be in a 2v2 game. May I?

[Galzria]

I'd like to be in a 2v2 game. May I?

Yep, go for it.

[EFHW]

Great. How about me and Eevee against infangthief and Ipofanes? The E's against the I's!

[Eevee]

Sounds good to me! EFHW, you can be our spymaster first.

[infangthief]

Ipofanes you happy to go for our team? What time zone are you in?

[EFHW]

For Reference:

The randomizer: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1TXkY5snm_uhZQNYvGqwrLSHjuHARIZouOP5pBEWRMXA/edit#gid=0

[EFHW]

Red goes first

DRESS	CZECH	EAST	SCORPION	PAPER
MILK	TAIL	HELICOPTER	SHIP	FOREST
SHOE	NIGHT	COFFEE	BERMUDA	PASTE
MINE	WITCH	PASS	STADIUM	WIND
COPPER	PAN	BOLT	BACK	WEB

[EFHW]

fang and ipo are red

[infangthief]

Filter: 4

[ipofanes]

Points to Coffee -> Paper -> Pass -> Web

[infangthief]

All red

[ipofanes]

For Reference:

The randomizer: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1TXkY5snm_uhZQNYvGqwrLSHjuHARIZouOP5pBEWRMXA/edit#gid=0

I guess I am not to follow that link?

As for time zone: UTC+1, but I would prefer a rather chilled game play where time zone should not matter. Apologies if my expectations don't match yours perfectly.

[ipofanes]

All red

high fives

I feel like a bridge player who successfully unravelled a risky bid.

[infangthief]

For Reference:

The randomizer: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1TXkY5snm_uhZQNYvGqwrLSHjuHARIZouOP5pBEWRMXA/edit#gid=0

I guess I am not to follow that link?

As for time zone: UTC+1, but I would prefer a rather chilled game play where time zone should not matter. Apologies if my expectations don't match yours perfectly.

That link generates a new board every time you go there. So there's no harm in following it - you won't find anything about the board being used in this game.

Yes, time zone doesn't really matter, this is not mafia, just out of interest. I suppose the more relevant version of that question would have been do you think like an American or a European Which is sometimes relevant for some of the words in some of the games. I'm in the UK, a European wannabe.

[ipofanes]

You are absolutely right. I haven't thought of time zone as an indicator of cultural background.

[EFHW]

West: 3

[Eevee]

That's a strong start from red, well done!

East -> wind to start

[infangthief]

Both blue

[Eevee]

Witch

[EFHW]

Blue!

[Eevee]

Pass!

[infangthief]

DRESS	CZECH	EAST	SCORPION	PAPER
MILK	TAIL	HELICOPTER	SHIP	FOREST
SHOE	NIGHT	COFFEE	BERMUDA	PASTE
MINE	WITCH	PASS	STADIUM	WIND
COPPER	PAN	BOLT	BACK	WEB

National: 2

[ipofanes]

Sorry for stalling.

FOREST -> STADIUM

[infangthief]

Forest is blue

[ipofanes]

dang

[EFHW]

Naval: 2

[Eevee]

ship

[infangthief]

Ship is blue

[Eevee]

Going to gamble that you'd have used something like "cruise" if it was Bermuda and that naval mines are a thing.

[infangthief]

Mine is neutral

DRESS	CZECH	EAST	SCORPION	PAPER
MILK	TAIL	HELICOPTER	SHIP	FOREST
SHOE	NIGHT	COFFEE	BERMUDA	PASTE
MINE	WITCH	PASS	STADIUM	WIND
COPPER	PAN	BOLT	BACK	WEB

[infangthief]

Undercover: 2

[ipofanes]

DRESS

[infangthief]

Dress is red

[ipofanes]

CZECH

[infangthief]

Czech is red

[ipofanes]

NIGHT

[infangthief]

Night is red

[ipofanes]

and I am not even very fond of The Rolling Stones.

[ipofanes]

Hints are exhausted, hence PASS.

[ipofanes]

DRESS	CZECH	EAST	SCORPION	PAPER
MILK	TAIL	HELICOPTER	SHIP	FOREST
SHOE	NIGHT	COFFEE	BERMUDA	PASTE
MINE	WITCH	PASS	STADIUM	WIND
COPPER	PAN	BOLT	BACK	WEB

[EFHW]

Startling: 2

[Eevee]

scorpions surely are

[EFHW]

BLUE

[Eevee]

bermuda

[infangthief]

Bermuda is neutral

[infangthief]

Randomiser: 2

[ipofanes]

TAIL

[infangthief]

Tail is neutral

[ipofanes]

ugh

[ipofanes]

I had a hard time coming up with even one guess.

[EFHW]

Twist: 2

[Eevee]

Eh so at a loss with this clue (as I'm with the other teams clue!), I'll try a startling bolt of lightning?

[EFHW]

BLUE

[Eevee]

Helicopter

[infangthief]

... is blue. Good game well done.

[Eevee]

Whew, close one. More?

[ipofanes]

Sure.

What words did you have in mind with your 2nd and 4th clues?

[infangthief]

DRESS	CZECH	EAST	SCORPION	PAPER
MILK	TAIL	HELICOPTER	SHIP	FOREST
SHOE	NIGHT	COFFEE	BERMUDA	PASTE
MINE	WITCH	PASS	STADIUM	WIND
COPPER	PAN	BOLT	BACK	WEB

[infangthief]

ipofanes we had moments of brilliance there. My last two clues could have been better, sorry.

Filter -> Coffee, Paper, Web, Pass. That went well.
Czech was always going to be difficult to link to anything.
National -> Czech, Dress. Thought about the danger of Forest, but I hoped the National Forest was just a UK thing.
Undercover -> Copper, Night. Actually since Mine had just flipped neutral, I could have done a Dominion: 2 clue for those two, which might have worked better.
Randomiser was a Dominion-themed clue for Back and Copper. I didn't think about Tail till after I'd given the clue. My bad.

[EFHW]

I couldn't believe the answers Ipo got!

[EFHW]

Eevee and Ipo are up!

[ipofanes]

ipofanes we had moments of brilliance there. My last two clues could have been better, sorry.

Filter -> Coffee, Paper, Web, Pass. That went well.
Czech was always going to be difficult to link to anything.
National -> Czech, Dress. Thought about the danger of Forest, but I hoped the National Forest was just a UK thing.
Undercover -> Copper, Night. Actually since Mine had just flipped neutral, I could have done a Dominion: 2 clue for those two, which might have worked better.
Randomiser was a Dominion-themed clue for Back and Copper. I didn't think about Tail till after I'd given the clue. My bad.

COPPER for Randomiser as in coin, and for Undercover as in policeman?

Stadium would have been 2nd choice for National here.

CZECH and DRESS could have easily been connected if we allowed web search, but there's that. I would have given Haljer as a clue for CZECH and COPPER, but that would be dangerous as well.

[ipofanes]

Blue goes first

TAG	ROOF	POOL	COMIC	CARD
BELL	DROP	TAP	TOOTH	BATTERY
TRAIN	TABLET	BOX	MICROSCOPE	DAY
PAN	REVOLUTION	PRINCESS	SATURN	DRESS
JACKET	WASHINGTON	POISON	SUPERHERO	TOWER

[infangthief]

COPPER for Randomiser as in coin, and for Undercover as in policeman?

Undercover policeman, yes.
But for randomiser, I was thinking Dominion randomisers all the way. The base game has randomiser cards even for all the basic treasures and victory cards. I suppose that might be only 1st edition actually. I'd forgotten that randomiser could have some meaning outside of Dominion!

[ipofanes]

Yeah, it took me up to now to realise that you had the BACK of the cards in mind.

Too bad I am working in the clinical trials domain. http://randomizer.at is one of the sites I use a lot. Apparently it is too much to assume that Dominion is part of my cultural background too.

 

[Eevee]

Tinker: 4

[EFHW]

card => pan to start.

[ipofanes]

both blue

[EFHW]

battery -> poison. Is there an emoji for crossed fingers?

[Eevee]

battery is red!

[EFHW]

Oh well.

[ipofanes]

Snoopy 3

[infangthief]

Comic

[ipofanes]

red

[infangthief]

Superhero

[ipofanes]

blue

[infangthief]

Oops. Should have passed. I know nothing about Snoopy.

[ipofanes]

Sorry.

Asking for year of birth should reveal at least as much cultural background as time zone.

Mine is 1965. To me, hip hop is some new-fangled way of speaking over repetitive background tracks.

[infangthief]

Sorry.

Asking for year of birth should reveal at least as much cultural background as time zone.

Mine is 1965. To me, hip hop is some new-fangled way of speaking over repetitive background tracks.

1984. The year not the book.

[Eevee]

I'm European (from Finland), born 1991.

feminine: 2

[EFHW]

Dress and Princess. 1966.

[Eevee]

blue and blue

[EFHW]

pass

[ipofanes]

Pain 2

[infangthief]

Poison -> Tooth

[Eevee]

Poison is blue!

Whistles: 2

[Eevee]

Blue goes first

TAG	ROOF	POOL	COMIC	CARD
BELL	DROP	TAP	TOOTH	BATTERY
TRAIN	TABLET	BOX	MICROSCOPE	DAY
PAN	REVOLUTION	PRINCESS	SATURN	DRESS
JACKET	WASHINGTON	POISON	SUPERHERO	TOWER

[infangthief]

Oh no! Not my greatest hour.

[EFHW]

Oh,Tinkerbell! Also train

[Eevee]

Blue and blue!

[EFHW]

Since poison was blue, I'm not going to try for another tinker. pass

[ipofanes]

This looks like my Codenames Duet games I play with my wife. She has stopped playing Codenames with me.

Tooth is red, so it doesn't look that bad.

trace 3

[infangthief]

Tooth -> Tag -> Tablet -> Tap

[Eevee]

tooth is red

tag is blue!

[Eevee]

Gg!

[infangthief]

3 turns, 2 hits on our words, 3 hits on their words!

[infangthief]

How was poison related to tinker?
Maybe I should have just trusted EFHW and avoided it anyway. Tooth + Tablet for pain?

[EFHW]

You tinker with someone's drink by putting poison in it.

[EFHW]

What was the 4th tinker?

[Eevee]

We got incredibly lucky with tinker, it was meant for pan, bell, dress and princess, I just tried to clue the character from Peter Pan. Not a great clue with battery being red also.

[ipofanes]

Really sorry I gave away TOOTH, I thought it had been guessed already.

[ipofanes]

Snoopy was geared at COMIC, ROOF and TAP. Snoopy having siesta on the roof of his shed or performing a tap dance were the images I had in mind.

Weren't BATTERY taken, I'd have started with Faucet 3 hoping for BATTERY, DROP and TAP.

[infangthief]

I did think about roof for Snoopy. But I thought it was crazy that I should have this image of Snoopy sleeping on the roof, that surely can't seriously actually be meant for that...

[EFHW]

Snoopy was geared at COMIC, ROOF and TAP. Snoopy having siesta on the roof of his shed or performing a tap dance were the images I had in mind.

Weren't BATTERY taken, I'd have started with Faucet 3 hoping for BATTERY, DROP and TAP.

I was thinking maybe fighter and jacket for when he flies his fighter plane.

[ipofanes]

New teams?

[EFHW]

Sure.  I randomly arrived at me-fang (blue) vs. Eevee-Ipo (red). On phone, so not making the board rn.

[infangthief]

This looks like my Codenames Duet games I play with my wife. She has stopped playing Codenames with me.

Codenames Duet is good. I like the options for adjusting the accuracy requirements for the game i.e. how much you get punished for hitting neutrals.

[Eevee]

New teams?

Ok!

[EFHW]

Blue goes first

GLOVE	BOX	INDIA	TABLET	FALL
GARAGE	CENTAUR	FIGURE	VALLEY	DINOSAUR
SWING	THIEF	ANGEL	FAN	AGENT
VACATION	PILOT	PLATYPUS	CHAIR	CHECK
POLICE	HELICOPTER	PICK	PLASTIC	HAWK

[EFHW]

Clue is for fang: State: 4

[infangthief]

India -> Police -> Swing

[EFHW]

All Blue!

[infangthief]

I'm going to pass for now.

[ipofanes]

rotor 2

[ipofanes]

bump

[Eevee]

helicopter - fan - pass

[ipofanes]

both red

[EFHW]

Buyer: 3

[infangthief]

Agent -> Check -> Pick

[infangthief]

If those are all blue then I'll push my luck with Figure then pass.

[EFHW]

Figure is neutral.

[infangthief]

Were Agent, Check and Pick all blue?

[EFHW]

Were Agent, Check and Pick all blue?

I messed up. Agent and Check were blue. Pick was neutral.

[ipofanes]

Time for another diagram, I guess.

GLOVE	BOX	INDIA	TABLET	FALL
GARAGE	CENTAUR	FIGURE	VALLEY	DINOSAUR
SWING	THIEF	ANGEL	FAN	AGENT
VACATION	PILOT	PLATYPUS	CHAIR	CHECK
POLICE	HELICOPTER	PICK	PLASTIC	HAWK

[infangthief]

How should we play this?
EFHW mistakenly told me Figure was neutral, which is information I should not have.
Should we say that I my first guess next turn must be for Figure? Does that sound fair to everyone?

[EFHW]

That's essentially skipping a turn and the info does help both sides. Maybe your second guess? Or no extra.

[ipofanes]

It helps both of us. I would leave it alone.

Anyways, I have nothing better than quadruped 2.

[Eevee]

I think one extra guess for us also for next turn would be fair.

[Eevee]

Next meaning this one coming up now, of course.

dinosaur - platypus

[EFHW]

I think one extra guess for us also for next turn would be fair.

ok with me

[ipofanes]

both red

[Eevee]

double pass

[EFHW]

Paper: 3

[infangthief]

Box

[EFHW]

blue

[infangthief]

Thief?

[EFHW]

Thief is red

[ipofanes]

Founder ∞

[Eevee]

garage

[ipofanes]

red

[Eevee]

valley

[ipofanes]

blue

[infangthief]

GLOVE	BOX	INDIA	TABLET	FALL
GARAGE	CENTAUR	FIGURE	VALLEY	DINOSAUR
SWING	THIEF	ANGEL	FAN	AGENT
VACATION	PILOT	PLATYPUS	CHAIR	CHECK
POLICE	HELICOPTER	PICK	PLASTIC	HAWK

[EFHW]

Notepad: 1

[infangthief]

Ok, it's only a clue for 1, but I probably need to have a go at both remaining words here.

Notepad: 1 -> Nothing seems certain, but TABLET looks likely.
Paper: 2 remaining (unless Valley was one of them) -> Again, could be TABLET. I suppose you get origami "VALLEY folds" with paper.
Buyer: 1 remaining (unless it was Box or Valley) -> You can buy a BOX set. You can use a TABLET for buying things online. A HAWKer is a seller I think, maybe connected. PLASTIC as in credit card seems a good option, same line of thinking as Check.
State: 1 remaining (unless it was Agent, Check, Box or Valley) -> You CHECK the state/status of something. Is state VACATION a thing?

Tablet and ...

[EFHW]

Tablet is blue

[infangthief]

I think I'm going with PLASTIC, for the buyer clue. I do like it because of the similarity with CHEQUE (sic).
Could TABLET and PLASTIC have been clued together, to be clear enough that I'd be sure to get at least one of them...? Probably not.
So. Plastic.

[EFHW]

Blue!

[Eevee]

Well done blue!

[EFHW]

Do you have the "paper or plastic?" question at the grocery store in England?

[EFHW]

It helps both of us. I would leave it alone.

Anyways, I have nothing better than quadruped 2.

Did you forget about our assassin the centaur?

[infangthief]

Do you have the "paper or plastic?" question at the grocery store in England?

No, I think it's "cash or card". Cash comprising notes and coins, so I don't think we talk about "paper" money really.

[EFHW]

Do you have the "paper or plastic?" question at the grocery store in England?

No, I think it's "cash or card". Cash comprising notes and coins, so I don't think we talk about "paper" money really.

Ok. Here it refers to which kind of bag you want.

[infangthief]

Do you have the "paper or plastic?" question at the grocery store in England?

No, I think it's "cash or card". Cash comprising notes and coins, so I don't think we talk about "paper" money really.

Ok. Here it refers to which kind of bag you want.

Oops I honestly completely misunderstood! LOL. Or are you pulling my leg?

[EFHW]

Do you have the "paper or plastic?" question at the grocery store in England?

No, I think it's "cash or card". Cash comprising notes and coins, so I don't think we talk about "paper" money really.

Ok. Here it refers to which kind of bag you want.

Oops I honestly completely misunderstood! LOL. Or are you pulling my leg?

No, seriously. It's the is it better to save trees or not multiply the amount of plastic in the world dilemma.

[infangthief]

Well, it worked out Enjoyed guessing. Good clueing. Another round everyone?

[EFHW]

Sure

[Eevee]

Yes!

[ipofanes]

ok, sb set up a new grid? I think it ismy turn to guess now.

[infangthief]

Blue goes first

CIRCLE	ROW	VET	ICE	PIZZA
BREAD	BRIDGE	KNIFE	WAR	STATE
AIR	BALL	MODEL	TORCH	THUMB
DRAGON	SOLDIER	ORANGE	BRUSH	HAND
CROWN	GROUND	FRANCE	FINGER	TABLET

[infangthief]

River: 3

[EFHW]

Bridge -> Row -> Ice -> pass (if I get that far).

[infangthief]

blue, blue, blue

[Eevee]

miniature: 2

[infangthief]

bump

[ipofanes]

Oops. I thought I had answered this. Sorry.

MODEL → DRAGON

[Eevee]

red red

[ipofanes]

yay.

I decided against SOLDIER because, even though table top games exist, a model soldier would not make me think about a miniature. 

[infangthief]

I trust you're ok with me assuming pass here.

Spherical: 2

[EFHW]

Ball -> orange -> pass if correct

[infangthief]

Blue and blue

CIRCLE	ROW	VET	ICE	PIZZA
BREAD	BRIDGE	KNIFE	WAR	STATE
AIR	BALL	MODEL	TORCH	THUMB
DRAGON	SOLDIER	ORANGE	BRUSH	HAND
CROWN	GROUND	FRANCE	FINGER	TABLET

[Eevee]

Down: 3

[ipofanes]

GROUND → THUMB → HAND with an inclination to STATE instead of HAND, but the quark state is bottom not down.

[infangthief]

Red, red, red

[infangthief]

King's: 2

[EFHW]

Shoot, I think this must be a Britain thing.

crown for sure.

[EFHW]

Is the apostrophe intentional?

[ipofanes]

I would act as if it were.

[infangthief]

Is the apostrophe intentional?

Yes.

[infangthief]

Crown is blue

[EFHW]

Is there a King's pizza in England? Or a King's circle? Those are both round things, and a round clue would have included both, so if only one is blue that explains your not saying round for ball and orange and crown.

I am also completely unfamiliar with Dominion expansions from the last several years.

pass

[Eevee]

Fork:2

[ipofanes]

KNIFE ...

phew. I am ruling out FINGER as no one would have let the connection with HAND and THUMB slip.

PIZZA → pass

[infangthief]

Red and red

CIRCLE	ROW	VET	ICE	PIZZA
BREAD	BRIDGE	KNIFE	WAR	STATE
AIR	BALL	MODEL	TORCH	THUMB
DRAGON	SOLDIER	ORANGE	BRUSH	HAND
CROWN	GROUND	FRANCE	FINGER	TABLET

[infangthief]

Baguette: 2

[EFHW]

Bread -> France

[EFHW]

But did red just win? They have 7.

[infangthief]

Blue and blue.
Red have 7 out of their 8, blue now have 8 out of 9.

[EFHW]

Ok, good. I can never remember if it's 7 and 8 or 8 and 9

I have to think some more about what to guess next.

[EFHW]

circle

[Eevee]

is neutral!

[Eevee]

Vermont: 1

[ipofanes]

STATE

[infangthief]

State is red
Very good!

CIRCLE	ROW	VET	ICE	PIZZA
BREAD	BRIDGE	KNIFE	WAR	STATE
AIR	BALL	MODEL	TORCH	THUMB
DRAGON	SOLDIER	ORANGE	BRUSH	HAND
CROWN	GROUND	FRANCE	FINGER	TABLET

I was sure there'd be a clue I could give for Crown and Soldier. But couldn't think of a good one in the end. Maybe "Champion" would have been better.
Eevee your "Down" clue was really good. And you did well to get Hand and Thumb without Finger, and Knife and Pizza with Bread (I was leaving Bread till late because of that).
But what's the link from Miniature to Dragon? I thought for sure you'd made a mistake and ipofanes would go for Soldier there!

[ipofanes]

Well done Eevee!

I think the clue "King's with apostrophe" was a good one. Made me think of SOLDIER via the "all the King's men" association.

There was a song by Suzanne Vega about a queen and a soldier, but which single word could convey this.

We still would have been good with the guess I rejected, STATE.

All in all, an unspectacular match without scoops or glorious failures. The Bridge clue was a good start though.

[Eevee]

I thought fantasy themed miniatures, like Warhammer and whatnot were a closer association than soldier. It was a risk but I was struggling for clues, especially with the constraints I had with leaving certain words on the board (and hoping you'd somehow guess finger and make my life easy with hand and thumb).

Pretty fun board with state being red but France being blue (ruining my Italy-themed clue for pizza), and of course finger being neutral but hand and thumb being red. I was also leaving pizza and state because of bread and France.

[Eevee]

Your first clue was very impressive.

[infangthief]

We had 4 Dominion card-shaped things (Bridge, Ball, Soldier, Crown), so I was tempted to try that, but then there were Hand and State (both red).

Other clues I considered:
Rolls: 3 instead of Spherical: 2, in order to include Bread. But I think Orange would be too much of a stretch there.
Louis: 2 for Crown and France.

[infangthief]

Or even "Antoinette: 4". Would that have worked?

[EFHW]

That works for crown, France and bread. I don't know what I would have guessed for the 4th. Maybe state.

[ipofanes]

Ready for switching Alliances?

I'd suggest I play with EFHW and that eevee and me give clues.

[Eevee]

All's good to me!

[ipofanes]

I suggest that we play red. Welcome to red, Eevee!

[ipofanes]

Blue goes first

STRAW	JACK	DWARF	BOMB	BAND
ALIEN	KID	LOG	CARD	FINGER
SMILE	LINK	MAJOR	ROME	PYRAMID
SOLDIER	FAN	THUMB	CHECK	FILM
MARCH	CAST	MOSCOW	LUCK	CLIFF

[infangthief]

I suggest that we play red. Welcome to red, Eevee!

You're playing with EFHW this time. So Eevee is blue and giving clues.

[ipofanes]

Right. silly me. Eevee did get the grid with solutions from me though, so we should be fine.

[Eevee]

Little: 4

[infangthief]

Dwarf -> Finger -> Kid

[ipofanes]

triple blue

[infangthief]

Got a couple of ideas, but I think I'll pass this time.

[ipofanes]

Joker 4

[EFHW]

Card -> Jack

[ipofanes]

CARD is neutral.

[ipofanes]

I am assuming that only single words are allowed as clues, not "Aphra Behn" and not "Taming of the Shrew"?

[Eevee]

Correct. Personally I’d say New York or Da Vinci and such are also illegal, just for simplicity.

[Eevee]

Ides: 2

[infangthief]

March -> Rome then I might take another guess. Thinking...

[Eevee]

double blue

[infangthief]

Luck

[Eevee]

red!

[ipofanes]

Out first hit!

[ipofanes]

Spotnicks 3

[EFHW]

Is that like Sputnik? I'll guess smile for the joker clue. Assuming luck was there, too.

[ipofanes]

SMILE is blue

[EFHW]

Jack

[ipofanes]

JACK is blue

[EFHW]

film

[Eevee]

Uhm, previous two were red, no? As well as film!

[EFHW]

I'm having trouble keeping track of my colors. Maybe Ipo is too. We are RED. Were my guesses correct?

[EFHW]

Assuming they were correct, Moscow. Pass if that's right.

[Eevee]

they were correct

[Eevee]

moscow is red too

[EFHW]

Cool. I didn't need to pass - I'm out of guesses!

[EFHW]

Blue goes first

STRAW	JACK	DWARF	BOMB	BAND
ALIEN	KID	LOG	CARD	FINGER
SMILE	LINK	MAJOR	ROME	PYRAMID
SOLDIER	FAN	THUMB	CHECK	FILM
MARCH	CAST	MOSCOW	LUCK	CLIFF

[Eevee]

fractured: 2

[infangthief]

Cast -> Thumb then pass.

[Eevee]

blue and blue

[ipofanes]

Sorry for mixing up colours.

clones 2

[EFHW]

alien

[EFHW]

If correct, then band.

[ipofanes]

red and red

[EFHW]

We just need one more to win. I think maybe  alien and band were also spotnicks. I'll try bomb. The Joker was always trying to blow things up, or maybe the movie was a flop or something.

[Eevee]

bomb is neutral

[Eevee]

virus: 2

[infangthief]

Check

[infangthief]

and Link.

[Eevee]

blue and blue!

[Eevee]

Gg, I got to say, fang, you are an absolute beast at guessing! I'm amazed.

[ipofanes]

EFHW, I really tested your trust with CARD being a wrong guess for the clue Joker. Sorry for that, and given the dud, your guesses were amazing.

My other option for first clue would have been Fortune 3, linking LUCK, SMILE and SOLDIER.

The Spotnicks, are, indeed, a BAND, and my attempt to link ALIEN and MOSCOW.

[EFHW]

No big deal. What was our last word?

[infangthief]

No big deal. What was our last word?

Must be soldier I suppose.
Which is funny, because for the 4th "Little" one I was picking between Luck and Soldier, which turned out to be both yours. Eevee's Ides clue persuaded me against Soldier (surely Rome, Soldier and March could have been clued together), which is why I went for Luck at that point. People say "a bit of luck"; do they ever say "a little luck"?

Was Thumb the 4th for "Little"?

[infangthief]

Gg, I got to say, fang, you are an absolute beast at guessing! I'm amazed.

Thank you. It is the quality of the clues of course.

Good game all round. Overlapping a clue with a neutral word gets awkward if the neutral word is the first guess.
I had a game (I think Eevee was guessing my clues), where both teams hit neutral words on their first turns!

[ipofanes]

There were quite some traps, with SOLDIER and BAND being targets but MARCH of opposite colour, or FILM but not CAST.

I thought about giving Étrangère 2 instead of Clones 2 as clue for SOLDIER and ALIEN (for want of German composites like "Fremdenlegion". Yet I thought it might be challenged as just being the French translation of ALIEN.

[Eevee]

No big deal. What was our last word?

Must be soldier I suppose.
Which is funny, because for the 4th "Little" one I was picking between Luck and Soldier, which turned out to be both yours. Eevee's Ides clue persuaded me against Soldier (surely Rome, Soldier and March could have been clued together), which is why I went for Luck at that point. People say "a bit of luck"; do they ever say "a little luck"?

Was Thumb the 4th for "Little"?

Thumb indeed. I think a little luck is used, at least informally.

[Eevee]

There were quite some traps, with SOLDIER and BAND being targets but MARCH of opposite colour, or FILM but not CAST.

I thought about giving Étrangère 2 instead of Clones 2 as clue for SOLDIER and ALIEN (for want of German composites like "Fremdenlegion". Yet I thought it might be challenged as just being the French translation of ALIEN.

Generally I think clues in foreign languages are forbidden, unless it's a word also commonly used in english (something like schadenfreude). I would have balked at Etrangere, though it might be I'm just not aware of it's usage.

[infangthief]

EFHW, when you are guessing, the last word is always soldier.

[EFHW]

EFHW, when you are guessing, the last word is always soldier.

I will keep that in mind!

[ipofanes]

I think a little luck is used, at least informally.

https://genius.com/Paul-mccartney-and-wings-with-a-little-luck-lyrics

[infangthief]

So, same teams with EFHW and me giving clues? I'll prepare a grid.

[infangthief]

Blue goes first

DOCTOR	SOUL	MINE	ORANGE	PART
POUND	ATLANTIS	CENTER	KIWI	MILLIONAIRE
EAST	POLICE	WATER	STREAM	SMUGGLER
KID	IVORY	PLANE	CLOUD	MARCH
HOLE	POOL	PAN	CHANGE	VAN

[infangthief]

Redecorate: 3

[Eevee]

change

[infangthief]

Change is blue

[Eevee]

ill stop bolding my guesses - its just me

kid

[infangthief]

Kid is neutral

[Eevee]

meh, figured a newborn kid is a reason to redecorate, at least one room. i might have been influenced by my first nephew/niece, due next month, and a big topic of discussion at the christmas table.

i have some leftover ideas for our next turn.

[EFHW]

ill stop bolding my guesses - its just me

kid

Bolding is good. Be bold!

[EFHW]

Sneaker: 2

[EFHW]

Sneaker: 2

I forgot to bold! Sneaker: 2.

Is there an emoji for sighing? My phone suggested 😕.

[ipofanes]

SMUGGLER

[EFHW]

red

[ipofanes]

pass for now. I really have no idea.

[infangthief]

Dust: 2

[Eevee]

cloud

[infangthief]

Cloud is blue

[Eevee]

pool

[infangthief]

Pool is red

[EFHW]

Myself: 2

[Eevee]

I clearly know nothing of redecorating, oof!

[ipofanes]

Sorry for stalling.

MINE

[ipofanes]

then SOUL

[infangthief]

Both red

[ipofanes]

pass

[infangthief]

DOCTOR	SOUL	MINE	ORANGE	PART
POUND	ATLANTIS	CENTER	KIWI	MILLIONAIRE
EAST	POLICE	WATER	STREAM	SMUGGLER
KID	IVORY	PLANE	CLOUD	MARCH
HOLE	POOL	PAN	CHANGE	VAN

[infangthief]

Military: 4

[Eevee]

March

[infangthief]

March is blue

[Eevee]

police

[infangthief]

Police is blue

[Eevee]

Plane

[infangthief]

Plane is blue

[Eevee]

pan

[infangthief]

Pan is blue

[Eevee]

Doctor

[infangthief]

Doctor is blue

[Eevee]

forced pass

[EFHW]

Wing: 3

[ipofanes]

KIWI → EAST → ORANGE

[infangthief]

Kiwi is red
East is red
Orange is blue

[infangthief]

Tusks: 1

[Eevee]

Ivory

[infangthief]

Ivory is blue

Some fantastic guessing there getting 5 in a row!

[Eevee]

Military was such a good clue! It ended up that I had the dust - clue also down correctly, just really struggled with redecorate.

[EFHW]

Second sneaker was van. Third wing was part.

GG!

[infangthief]

Redecorate was meant to be Change, Ivory (I believe it is a popular alternative to magnolia as a neutral colour) and Orange (a bit of a stretch, but it's another colour you could paint).

I didn't want to do Military until their Van had gone. Vanguard (opposite of rearguard, as well as being a battleship name) seemed like a stronger link than Doctor, but we were so far behind at that point it seemed worth the risk.

[ipofanes]

I'd have contested Vanguard as it contains VAN.

I am not getting the connections between Sneakers and VAN. This was decisive I think.

ORANGE was a guess since you guys still have an orange in the West Wing.

[EFHW]

Vans are a sneaker type shoe that you slip on rather than tie. Lol the orange.

[EFHW]

I didn't realize you were in Germany - sneakers and vans probably not the right terms there.

[infangthief]

I'd have contested Vanguard as it contains VAN.

No intention of giving Vanguard as a clue; I was only considering how VAN seemed a likely guess for the clue "Military".

[EFHW]

Go again?

[Eevee]

yeees

[ipofanes]

I didn't realize you were in Germany - sneakers and vans probably not the right terms there.

Oh, my kids might have got the connection, it's me rather being out of touch with contemporary culture than with U.S.

[ipofanes]

So infangthief and me pair up for red?

[EFHW]

sounds fine

Eevee, you want to give clues?

[infangthief]

I'll make a grid. Eevee and I'll give clues (I think that makes it the other way round from last time ipofanes and I were on a team).

[infangthief]

Eevee's up first.

Blue goes first

CAKE	TURKEY	LUCK	COLD	RING
TEA	INDIA	THUMB	MILLIONAIRE	WORM
CHURCH	PYRAMID	KING	STATE	NIGHT
KETCHUP	MARCH	CELL	GREEN	DECK
POUND	DRESS	AZTEC	GENIUS	FINGER

[Eevee]

penitentiary: 5

[EFHW]

cell -> state to start

[Eevee]

both blue

[EFHW]

pound -> cold

[infangthief]

Pound is blue
Cold is neutral

[infangthief]

Springtime: 2

[ipofanes]

MARCH → GREEN

[ipofanes]

then pass

[infangthief]

March is red
Green is red

[EFHW]

Stroop!

[Eevee]

Birthday: 2

[EFHW]

cake then pass. Could be luck or dress, I think.

[infangthief]

Cake is blue

Celebrity: 2

[ipofanes]

KING → MILLIONAIRE → pass

[infangthief]

King is neutral

[Eevee]

Blue goes first

CAKE	TURKEY	LUCK	COLD	RING
TEA	INDIA	THUMB	MILLIONAIRE	WORM
CHURCH	PYRAMID	KING	STATE	NIGHT
KETCHUP	MARCH	CELL	GREEN	DECK
POUND	DRESS	AZTEC	GENIUS	FINGER

[Eevee]

Gods: 4

[EFHW]

Church for sure. Then I have 4 candidates for the other 3: luck, Aztec, India and pyramid. I'll go with Pyramid.

[Eevee]

blue

[EFHW]

Pyramid too?

[Eevee]

blue

[EFHW]

Aztec -> India

[infangthief]

Both blue

[EFHW]

I think church was one of the penitentiaries. Need one more of those and one birthday and one more word total. Maybe pyramid was a penitentiary? Luck

[infangthief]

Luck is neutral, though we could do with it being on our side just now...

[infangthief]

Blue goes first

CAKE	TURKEY	LUCK	COLD	RING
TEA	INDIA	THUMB	MILLIONAIRE	WORM
CHURCH	PYRAMID	KING	STATE	NIGHT
KETCHUP	MARCH	CELL	GREEN	DECK
POUND	DRESS	AZTEC	GENIUS	FINGER

[infangthief]

Torture: 5

[ipofanes]

THUMB → DRESS → MILLIONAIRE → RING → NIGHT

[infangthief]

A valiant effort in an impossible situation

Thumb is red
Dress is neutral

[ipofanes]

Like pulling out the goalie to opponent's box for a corner 

[Eevee]

sunset: 1

[infangthief]

The corner's been taken, and the ball got cleared down the field to EFHW's strikers. She can't miss, surely?

[EFHW]

Night

[Eevee]

Gooooooooool! Blue.

[EFHW]

Yay! This is the only way I'll ever make a soccer goal, so thanks for giving me this opportunity!

[infangthief]

Well done team blue. Sorry ipofanes that was an awful game by me, I was struggling to find any link for more than 2 words anywhere.

[infangthief]

Blue goes first

CAKE	TURKEY	LUCK	COLD	RING
TEA	INDIA	THUMB	MILLIONAIRE	WORM
CHURCH	PYRAMID	KING	STATE	NIGHT
KETCHUP	MARCH	CELL	GREEN	DECK
POUND	DRESS	AZTEC	GENIUS	FINGER

Celebrity was meant to be Millionaire and Genius.
Torture was just desparation - I felt it had some vague links to Thumb, Deck, Worm, Turkey and Genius. But Night was more likely than some of those so it never would have worked.

[EFHW]

Eevee - which words went with which clues?

[ipofanes]

Well done team blue. Sorry ipofanes that was an awful game by me, I was struggling to find any link for more than 2 words anywhere.

Given that the only unchanging feature of these matches is that my side loses ... I certainly contributed to the awfulness.

[ipofanes]

Celebrity was meant to be Millionaire and Genius.

I had expected some clue like Brin or Elon to connect those.

I might have tried Mozart 3 to connect TURKEY, MARCH, and GENIUS thinking of the alla turca piano piece https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Piano_Sonata_No._11_(Mozart). But, again, NIGHT would probably ruin it https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eine_kleine_Nachtmusik. 

I can't think of any good connections either.

[Eevee]

Penitentiary: 5
State, cell, night (thinking of long nights alone in a cell, or alternatively many of the activities that might land you in jail happen during night, church and pyramid (for being large buildings like a prison. Outside chance for cake (smuggling a file inside of one like in the cartoons), I missed pound totally.

Birthday: 2
Cake and night (day -> night, also parties happen at night), was a stretch but the rest felt easy to connect and I wanted to make them clue for Turkey before I go for India.

Gods: 4
Church, Pyramid, Aztec, India (hence the plural)

[EFHW]

Penitentiary: 5
State, cell, night (thinking of long nights alone in a cell, or alternatively many of the activities that might land you in jail happen during night, church and pyramid (for being large buildings like a prison. Outside chance for cake (smuggling a file inside of one like in the cartoons), I missed pound totally.

Birthday: 2
Cake and night (day -> night, also parties happen at night), was a stretch but the rest felt easy to connect and I wanted to make them clue for Turkey before I go for India.

Gods: 4
Church, Pyramid, Aztec, India (hence the plural)

I thought Church was a pun on penitent. I hesitated though, in case someone might be offended.

[infangthief]

Another one? EFHW and ipofanes giving clues.

[Eevee]

I'm game.

[ipofanes]

Let it commence:

Red goes first

OLIVE	PIPE	SETTLE	HIMALAYAS	LIMOUSINE
CLOAK	STOCK	TAIL	BRUSH	DRILL
PIZZA	CLOUD	PUPIL	HEAD	COURT
PLATE	BOOM	SOUND	NOVEL	FLY
BRAZIL	STAFF	SPINE	ORANGE	HIRE

[ipofanes]

median 3

[ipofanes]

I thought Church was a pun on penitent. I hesitated though, in case someone might be offended.

I actually had to look up the word "penitentary" and was surprised it has nothing to do with church, while penitent has.

[infangthief]

I thought Church was a pun on penitent. I hesitated though, in case someone might be offended.

I actually had to look up the word "penitentary" and was surprised it has nothing to do with church, while penitent has.

I had no idea and have just looked it up too. It seems it does have a variety of less-used (and older) meanings in some church institutions.

[infangthief]

Spine

[EFHW]

I thought Church was a pun on penitent. I hesitated though, in case someone might be offended.

I actually had to look up the word "penitentary" and was surprised it has nothing to do with church, while penitent has.

That's why it was a pun.

[ipofanes]

SPINE is red

[infangthief]

Pupil

[ipofanes]

is neutral

[EFHW]

Snow: 2

[Eevee]

Himalayas

[EFHW]

Blue

[Eevee]

cloud

[ipofanes]

blue

[Eevee]

pass

[ipofanes]

farming 4

[infangthief]

Stock

[ipofanes]

is red

[infangthief]

Red goes first

OLIVE	PIPE	SETTLE	HIMALAYAS	LIMOUSINE
CLOAK	STOCK	TAIL	BRUSH	DRILL
PIZZA	CLOUD	PUPIL	HEAD	COURT
PLATE	BOOM	SOUND	NOVEL	FLY
BRAZIL	STAFF	SPINE	ORANGE	HIRE

[infangthief]

Hire -> Settle -> Tail

[ipofanes]

HIRE is neutral

[EFHW]

Thinking ...

[EFHW]

Grass: 3

[Eevee]

court

[EFHW]

Blue

[Eevee]

Conservative pass, I have some ideas but too unsure and would hate to hit red.

[ipofanes]

chrome ∞

[infangthief]

Infinite. Right. So I think this means that you want me to have a go at all the remaining red words this turn...
And/or it might mean that the words I've been close to guessing are correct (Settle, Tail).

Starting with Plate

[ipofanes]

You are sounding like you are a Bridge player informing opponents on the conventions we are using 

I'll do the talk at the end.

oh, and PLATE is red

[infangthief]

Red goes first

OLIVE	PIPE	SETTLE	HIMALAYAS	LIMOUSINE
CLOAK	STOCK	TAIL	BRUSH	DRILL
PIZZA	CLOUD	PUPIL	HEAD	COURT
PLATE	BOOM	SOUND	NOVEL	FLY
BRAZIL	STAFF	SPINE	ORANGE	HIRE

[infangthief]

I'm really lost.
I'm going to trust whatever I was thinking earlier and go for Settle and Tail.

[infangthief]

If Settle and Tail are both red then I'll go for Olive then pass.

[infangthief]

Bump. EFHW, ipofanes, either of you able to give us colours for Settle, Tail, Olive?

[EFHW]

Forgot I could do that! Settle and tail are red. Olive is blue.

[EFHW]

Mushroom: 2

[Eevee]

pizza

[EFHW]

Blue

[Eevee]

Pipe

[EFHW]

Blue

[Eevee]

pass

[ipofanes]

still lost?

[ipofanes]

Sorry!

prison 2

[EFHW]

Red goes first

OLIVE	PIPE	SETTLE	HIMALAYAS	LIMOUSINE
CLOAK	STOCK	TAIL	BRUSH	DRILL
PIZZA	CLOUD	PUPIL	HEAD	COURT
PLATE	BOOM	SOUND	NOVEL	FLY
BRAZIL	STAFF	SPINE	ORANGE	HIRE

[infangthief]

Staff -> pass

[EFHW]

Staff was the assassin!

[infangthief]

Staff was the assassin!

Well, prison seems like a good place for the assassin to be, so I'll take that
Sorry ipofanes I clearly wasn't thinking along the same lines as you this game! I struggled to find enough linking words for any of the clues.

[ipofanes]

ok, sorry about this.

With median I thought of watching a vertebrate from behind: HEAD, SPINE, TAIL. Non-cyclops vertebrate I had in mind, so PUPIL came as a surprise.

With farming, it was a tossup between ORANGE and OLIVE, thought orange farming is more usual in US. The other words were DRILL as in seed drill, SETTLE and STOCK as in livestock.

The ∞ indicated that in principle, all words have been targeted so someone thinking like an ipofanes would be able to get them all. Chrome was directed at PLATE (which worked) and LIMOUSINE.

The last one was a crap shot at ORANGE and DRILL which I thought were most in need of getting clues. But by and large a bad move.

[infangthief]

Ah, ok. Spine worked. But mostly I was thinking about median as the statistical term: school PUPILs (students) being taught about mean, median and mode; also there's all this ranking with pupils being above/below average in their class (despite the government sometimes wanting all pupils to be above average ). I wondered about TAIL there, as another statistical term, but not until it came up as a likely word for the farming clue too.

[ipofanes]

A spine plot is a  thing too in statistics ...

[EFHW]

My clues: SNOW was cloud and Himalayas. GRASS was court, brush and pipe. MUSHROOM was pizza and Boom.

[Eevee]

Oh, very clever with boom.

Good cluing, I had it easy this game!

[ipofanes]

My clues: SNOW was cloud and Himalayas. GRASS was court, brush and pipe. MUSHROOM was pizza and Boom.

Guess it was convenient that OLIVE was taken care of by me.

[infangthief]

I'm going to call it a day on this game. Anyone else welcome to take my spot for the next round.

[ipofanes]

Yes, me too. I am quite sobered up about my performance. Thanks all for the great rounds and apologies to my team mates.

[EFHW]

Fun playing with you!