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Author Topic: M132: Cats and Dogs Mafia - Game Over! Skum Wins!  (Read 142405 times)

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Re: M132: Cats and Dogs Mafia - Day 2 Has Begun!
« Reply #675 on: October 11, 2020, 10:32:21 pm »

Vote: Galzria

Should've done this Yesterday.

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Re: M132: Cats and Dogs Mafia - Day 2 Has Begun!
« Reply #676 on: October 11, 2020, 10:53:11 pm »

Galz talks soon or we exile him.

Talk talk talk - my browser is having difficulty loading on my phone at the moment, but I’m on PTO right now and will be home all day tomorrow/all week - so if I don’t get to posting as of tomorrow I fully support this sentiment (although not, because I’m town, but I’m certainly doing nothing to help us, so...)

All I’m saying is: Reasonably, hold me to being engaged fully starting tomorrow.
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Re: M132: Cats and Dogs Mafia - Day 2 Has Begun!
« Reply #677 on: October 11, 2020, 11:54:23 pm »

I might not have time until Tuesday, but I will go through and specify more about why Eevee is our best bet for scum today, imo.
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Re: M132: Cats and Dogs Mafia - Day 2 Has Begun!
« Reply #678 on: October 12, 2020, 07:59:51 am »

My first impulse is Vote: ADK

but I have to go back and reevaluate this game I suppose.
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Re: M132: Cats and Dogs Mafia - Day 2 Has Begun!
« Reply #679 on: October 12, 2020, 08:13:00 am »

I might not have time until Tuesday, but I will go through and specify more about why Eevee is our best bet for scum today, imo.

I mean I can see the Eevee argument myself, and since Galz has appeared and promised to post...


Vote: eevee

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Re: M132: Cats and Dogs Mafia - Day 2 Has Begun!
« Reply #680 on: October 12, 2020, 12:08:34 pm »

seems i'm a popular lynch candidate, i think it would be good for everyone to take a firm position on whether they think that's a good idea or not.
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Re: M132: Cats and Dogs Mafia - Day 2 Has Begun!
« Reply #681 on: October 12, 2020, 12:25:00 pm »

seems i'm a popular lynch candidate, i think it would be good for everyone to take a firm position on whether they think that's a good idea or not.

I think it's a good idea! Sorry man, but you seem like a very plausible scum candidate given my continued survival. Though it's not the only plausible reason, of course.
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Re: M132: Cats and Dogs Mafia - Day 2 Has Begun!
« Reply #682 on: October 12, 2020, 12:28:45 pm »

seems i'm a popular lynch candidate, i think it would be good for everyone to take a firm position on whether they think that's a good idea or not.

I think it's a good idea! Sorry man, but you seem like a very plausible scum candidate given my continued survival. Though it's not the only plausible reason, of course.
The way multiple people came out posting about me kind of makes me think scum might have wanted that to be the prevailing narrative today.

But we’ll see. I’ll try to get a couple rereads in tomorrow, got too busy today. Poker actions been booming!
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Re: M132: Cats and Dogs Mafia - Day 2 Has Begun!
« Reply #683 on: October 12, 2020, 01:41:00 pm »

seems i'm a popular lynch candidate, i think it would be good for everyone to take a firm position on whether they think that's a good idea or not.

I think it's a bad idea and I don't understand where the sentiment is coming from
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Re: M132: Cats and Dogs Mafia - Day 2 Has Begun!
« Reply #684 on: October 12, 2020, 02:03:16 pm »

seems i'm a popular lynch candidate, i think it would be good for everyone to take a firm position on whether they think that's a good idea or not.

I think it's a bad idea and I don't understand where the sentiment is coming from

Then who’s on your list?
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Re: M132: Cats and Dogs Mafia - Day 2 Has Begun!
« Reply #685 on: October 12, 2020, 02:31:36 pm »

If all players could please try to send me a message in your personal QT just saying "Hi" or something. There may be some issues with Quick Topic happening on their end and I want to make sure no one is getting error messages when they try to post.
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Re: M132: Cats and Dogs Mafia - Day 2 Has Begun!
« Reply #686 on: October 12, 2020, 02:34:14 pm »

Vote Count 3.1:

ADK (1): faust
Eevee (1): chairs

Not Voting (7): WCD, EFHW, ADK, Galz, Eevee, Space, Robz


With 9 alive, it takes 5 to lynch.
Day 3 starts now and ends on October 18th at 6:28PM Forum Time.

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Re: M132: Cats and Dogs Mafia - Day 2 Has Begun!
« Reply #687 on: October 12, 2020, 04:58:23 pm »

Does anyone think it's at all likely that neither faust nor ADK is scum here?
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Re: M132: Cats and Dogs Mafia - Day 2 Has Begun!
« Reply #688 on: October 12, 2020, 05:44:11 pm »

It's not at all likely that any pair of two is town. Why do you ask about them two specifically?
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Re: M132: Cats and Dogs Mafia - Day 2 Has Begun!
« Reply #689 on: October 12, 2020, 06:58:42 pm »

Does anyone think it's at all likely that neither faust nor ADK is scum here?

I know I'm not scum and faust isn't high on my list
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Re: M132: Cats and Dogs Mafia - Day 2 Has Begun!
« Reply #690 on: October 12, 2020, 06:59:25 pm »

seems i'm a popular lynch candidate, i think it would be good for everyone to take a firm position on whether they think that's a good idea or not.

I think it's a bad idea and I don't understand where the sentiment is coming from

Then who’s on your list?

Quite frankly I'm starting to think it's you, sorry
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Re: M132: Cats and Dogs Mafia - Day 2 Has Begun!
« Reply #691 on: October 12, 2020, 07:10:04 pm »

seems i'm a popular lynch candidate, i think it would be good for everyone to take a firm position on whether they think that's a good idea or not.

I think it's a bad idea and I don't understand where the sentiment is coming from

Then who’s on your list?

Quite frankly I'm starting to think it's you, sorry

Think harder, then, because we need to get this right and it’s not me.
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Re: M132: Cats and Dogs Mafia - Day 2 Has Begun!
« Reply #692 on: October 12, 2020, 07:11:39 pm »

Highest on my lists are eevee and space. Give those a think...
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Re: M132: Cats and Dogs Mafia - Day 2 Has Begun!
« Reply #693 on: October 12, 2020, 08:00:28 pm »

Highest on my lists are eevee and space. Give those a think...

Space I can see. The question about everyone thinking there's scum between faust and me is quite scummy
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Re: M132: Cats and Dogs Mafia - Day 2 Has Begun!
« Reply #694 on: October 12, 2020, 08:41:49 pm »

It seems whatever the issue was with QTs has been resolved.
If anyone gets an error message when trying to post in their QT during this game, please PM me.

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Re: M132: Cats and Dogs Mafia - Day 2 Has Begun!
« Reply #695 on: October 12, 2020, 11:59:18 pm »

Does anyone think it's at all likely that neither faust nor ADK is scum here?

Based on what?
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Re: M132: Cats and Dogs Mafia - Day 1!!!!
« Reply #696 on: October 13, 2020, 04:23:35 am »

I keep coming back to this vote count (colors mine):

Joseph (4): Galzria, Dylan, Eevee, Glooble
Glooble (4): ADK, Space, faust, Robz888
EFHW (3): Joseph, MiX, WCD
ADK (2): EFHW, chairs

A couple of interesting observations here:
- the only people off both town wagons are Didds, EFHW, chairs. That set is likely to contain scum.
- Space switches from town!Glooble to known!VT!Joseph soon after. I really don't think that's what scum wants to be doing there. So Space can be town.
- this means that (from my perspective) the only potential scum on the Gooble wagon as ADK.
- we have Galzria and Eevee on the Joseph wagon; I don't think they are both scum. Both were lurky and just went along with the Dylan case, that would make them potential lurker exiles going forward.
- so, where is scum? We have EFHW and chairs on ADK. Suppose EFHW/chairs are a team. I don't see both of them pushing a non-wagon when the EFHW wagon poses a threat right there. At least one of them would join a counterwagon.
- then there is Didds on the EFHW wagon. Same position as ADK on Glooble; only nonconfirmed person on that wagon.

What do we have? {Galz/Eevee} has at most 1 scum, {EFHW/chairs} has at most one scum, Space is town, by PoE there is at least 1 scum in {ADK/Didds}. I'm favoring ADK at the moment as we know that the wagon he was on was on town, whereas EFHW could still be scum.
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Re: M132: Cats and Dogs Mafia - Day 2 Has Begun!
« Reply #697 on: October 13, 2020, 07:08:52 am »

Notes about ADK.

Early on goes after MiX and Glooble.
There is the bit where 3 people in a row (EFHW, Dylan, Joseph) townread them and then ADK goes "exactly one scum there!" Two of those have since flipped town. I think if ADK is scum, then this implicates EFHW.
Defends Galzria for a bit.
Kind of hedgy on Joseph but their vote remains on Glooble.
D2 starts out with a bad case on Space. ADK pushes this for a bit and then changes to chairs. Okay, that's somewhat towny, scum likes to stick to the cases they made.
They seem to keep townreading me. I'm not sure what to make of that.
There is a whole weird flip-flop on Glooble, going from scumread to townread and back in a small amount of time.
There is a strange amount of defending people on D3. We have a whole bunch of scum but ADK is apparently townreading me, Eevee, chairs. It's kind of towny I suppose.

I'm still comfortable with the vote but at some point want to check Diddsy.
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Re: M132: Cats and Dogs Mafia - Day 2 Has Begun!
« Reply #698 on: October 13, 2020, 07:39:51 am »

Okay, so that's pretty interesting, and shows who's paying attention to what cases to some extent.

I asked about faust and ADK because it's central to the case faust was pushing on Glooble in D2, and in fact faust has now re-posted exactly the key wagon he used for his Glooble case, but with Glooble now coloured green.

The people who reacted to my question are:

1. Eevee at #688, asking why that pair in particular. He was on the Glooble exile wagon, but apparently "Welp I think it's time to vote glooble" was his only justification there (post #633).

2. ADK, who asserts their towniness, but also doesn't scumread faust. ADK was already pushing Glooble, but it's interesting they didn't seem to pay attention to the reason why faust was pushing so much on the evidence that (as I was trying to point out yesterday!) was really saying "one scum in {Glooble, ADK, faust}, rather than specifically pointing at Glooble.

Special note for Didds, who completely avoided engaging with my question, but did state me as a scumread with no justification.

3. EFHW, who asks "Based on what?" at #695. At least in EFHW's case, she was just ignoring the Glooble wagon and voting Eevee D2.

I think ADK comes off the scummiest of these, though I'm willing to go back and consider Eevee again by now too.
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Re: M132: Cats and Dogs Mafia - Day 1!!!!
« Reply #699 on: October 13, 2020, 10:20:23 am »

Hi! hi! hi! hi!

I feel like I am finally starting to climb out from under the mountain of work that I was under. I hate it that we got so far behind during that time. I guess the one upshot is that it makes some of the POE easier.
What do we have? {Galz/Eevee} has at most 1 scum, {EFHW/chairs} has at most one scum, Space is town, by PoE there is at least 1 scum in {ADK/Didds}. I'm favoring ADK at the moment as we know that the wagon he was on was on town, whereas EFHW could still be scum.

I really appreciate this kind of thinking. It helps me see. Thank you, faust. 
I spent most of D1 voting for EFHW.  I am still not convinced that she is town, but if she is scum she is the one who got to stay off the town wagons without looking stubborn. Daychat ftw.

I spent most of D2 voting for eevee and he is still my most enduring scumread (even though I love you, boo). I honestly can't see a scum Galz so thoroughly abandoning his team and not voting at all D2. So, if there is scum in that 2, eevee is the way to go.

I am not as certain that Space is town, but I am willing to put that on the back burner for the time being. They were instrumental in both the Joseph and Glooble exile, but then again they were visibly instrumental.

Swowl will you please prod: Galzy again? It's been almost 36 hours since he said he would be more present....so in the interest of holding him to that, give him an ear flick from us.
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