Ok, so faust/Eddie. The first notable thing is faust's "no real votes" plan and his desire to keep timelines secret for day one.
One clear downside of timeline claiming is that it allows scum to target the PRs that can be active that Night with roleblocking, killing etc.
So here is my plan: noone votes. Instead, we use italics to Vote: xy. I agree to do vote count for italic votes. If a majority of living players agrees on an exile, then the people in the active timeline try to exile them. Otherwise, there will be no exile.
Was this plan scummy? Was it towny but just ill-advised? Was it a brilliant plan that we should have followed? Who knows. Reading back at the discussion around it, it's easy to see it as a scum play for town points. Especially with snap-backs like this one:
Maybe it wasn't best to mention this, so I'll rephrase to say: No, I do not expect that.
Okay then your plan is anti-town.
At least I have a plan and am not just blurting out random bits of information to the enemy.
I think the italics plan by faust is a good one. Obviously overtly helpful faust is scum faust, so vote: faust.
I also don't know if not timeline claiming is a good thing. Not just for the targeting reasons that have been mentioned, but because we will have at least partially timeline claimed by the end of the day when the people from the current timeline vote for the person who has been hammered by italics votes. Not sure if it is good to let some people be unclaimed from a timeline while others get to not be timeline claimed.
gkrieg, who was town, found the plan, or at least faust's presentation of it scummy, or at least that's how I interpret this statement- that gkrieg thought the plan was a ploy for townpoints. Unless he was being tongue-in-cheek here, I honestly can't tell.
mathdude strongly opposes faust's plan and in fact acitvely undermines it with a bold vote on faust. So far 2/2 dead townies agree- faust is scummy.
faust responds:
I am extremely frustrated and annoyed at mathdude's play.
Which is pretty much in character regardless of alignment.
Confirmed scum joth supports faust's plan. Make of that what you will - could be buddying from joth to get town!faust to like him, could be the plan had some hidden benefit to scum that made it worth two scum players tying themselves together.
We're all so stuck on whether this plan is good or not, we're actually not getting anywhere useful. Good job faust. Your plan is working.
We could just move on quickly if everyone claims Timeline, votes for themselves (or if Reverse, you can vote me or faust), then let's get on with the actual game.
I think faust is scummy. And I know he can be voted for today. Anyone else have scum reads?
mathdude raises the possibility that faust's plan was mostly to distract town from actually scumhunting which, honestly, is seeming like a not-terribly unlikely scenario to me right now.
Almost-certainly confirmed town Ashersky agrees with mathdude's assessment of faust and the motivation behind the plan as well.
Now this interaction:
It would be easier because this is an RMM with supercharged investigative PRs.
Also re. faust - what is this? Either it's creating WIFOM for no obvious reason or it's rolefishing bait. Feels scummy to me in any case.
Every investigative role has a QT, i.e. they can share their results without having to claim.
Except they have no idea if their QT-mate is town, so they may not want to reveal to that person that they have an investigative role.
Exactly this. But I can see why faust wants investigative roles to share with their partners... or helps out him and his team if one of them can get info from town.
mathdude here basically accusing faust of trying to get townies with investigative roles to out themselves to their QT partners- that seems a little bit unsubtle for faust, but I can certainly see mathdude's point.
I was apparently townreading faust at this point, but as we all know from how day 2 panned out, my reads are shit. He certainly seems less-than-towny to me on this reread.
Vote: faust
Timeline hiding is worthless.
And chairs weighs in! 3 out of 3 dead townies agree- faust is scum!
And now we reach the point where faust subbed out for Eddie, so I'm going to take a break and pick this up later. So far, and Eddie Exile is looking pretty decent to me though.
PPE: 3