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Re: M129: Marvel Mafia 2 (Day 1)
« Reply #100 on: July 22, 2020, 07:44:57 pm »

Neat. Probably not helpful until later if and when we have claims

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Re: M129: Marvel Mafia 2 (Day 1)
« Reply #101 on: July 22, 2020, 07:45:57 pm »

How many ways can you split 8 into a sum of integers is a fun problem, but in this game it's irrelevant.
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Re: M129: Marvel Mafia 2 (Day 1)
« Reply #102 on: July 22, 2020, 09:02:35 pm »

Just so I am reading this correctly: It's possible, though extremely unlikely, we have 8 Ant-Mans?
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Re: M129: Marvel Mafia 2 (Day 1)
« Reply #103 on: July 22, 2020, 09:07:05 pm »

Just so I am reading this correctly: It's possible, though extremely unlikely, we have 8 Ant-Mans?

Yep! But then why Framer.
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Re: M129: Marvel Mafia 2 (Day 1)
« Reply #104 on: July 22, 2020, 09:11:35 pm »

Just so I am reading this correctly: It's possible, though extremely unlikely, we have 8 Ant-Mans?

Yep! But then why Framer.

Right, yeah. Just saying, theoretically. Scum choices definitely point to certain PRs, not 8 Ant-Mans (Ant-Men?)
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Re: M129: Marvel Mafia 2 (Day 1)
« Reply #105 on: July 22, 2020, 09:55:47 pm »

Vote: Space for being anti-funny
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Derphammering is when quickhammers go derp.

Faust has also been incredibly stubborn this game. In other news, it's hot in the summer, and water falls from the sky when it rains.


Mafia Record:
TOWN Wins: M3, M5, M6, M11, M17, M28, M32, M105, M108, M114, M118, M120, M122, DM1, DoM1, OZ2, RM45, RM47, RM48, RM49, RM55
TOWN Losses: M4, M7, M8, M9, M13, M14, M18, M31, M110, M111, M113, M117, M125, RM3, RM4, RM54
SCUM Wins: M2, M19, M23, M100, DM3, RM1, RM2, RM48, RM50
SCUM Losses: M15 (SK), M102 (Tr), OZ1, RM55

Total Wins: 30
Total Losses: 20

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Re: M129: Marvel Mafia 2 (Day 1)
« Reply #106 on: July 22, 2020, 09:57:55 pm »

MiX, why should I believe that you're not scum this game?

That would be way too cool for me.

Stop asking this! You have no idea how awful it is to answer this when I'm scum. Or town. Or third-party. Or anything in between. It feels like whatever I say it's scummy.

Has this been helping you?

It's been helping me laugh.

Why is this question so difficult for you? It's not as if you don't know it's coming. This is the... 8th? 9th? game in a row that I've asked it of you in my opening post.
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Derphammering is when quickhammers go derp.

Faust has also been incredibly stubborn this game. In other news, it's hot in the summer, and water falls from the sky when it rains.


Mafia Record:
TOWN Wins: M3, M5, M6, M11, M17, M28, M32, M105, M108, M114, M118, M120, M122, DM1, DoM1, OZ2, RM45, RM47, RM48, RM49, RM55
TOWN Losses: M4, M7, M8, M9, M13, M14, M18, M31, M110, M111, M113, M117, M125, RM3, RM4, RM54
SCUM Wins: M2, M19, M23, M100, DM3, RM1, RM2, RM48, RM50
SCUM Losses: M15 (SK), M102 (Tr), OZ1, RM55

Total Wins: 30
Total Losses: 20

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Re: M129: Marvel Mafia 2 (Day 1)
« Reply #107 on: July 22, 2020, 10:00:14 pm »

I have hope.

And a short memory.
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Re: M129: Marvel Mafia 2 (Day 1)
« Reply #108 on: July 22, 2020, 10:01:39 pm »

Well uh I think that's actually like x-1 what the hell

Unvote

Oh spare me the faux panicky unvoting when there's little real danger we'd exile MiX.

But also, this.

vote: Chairs

Robz - why did you make this post but not vote for Chairs?
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Derphammering is when quickhammers go derp.

Faust has also been incredibly stubborn this game. In other news, it's hot in the summer, and water falls from the sky when it rains.


Mafia Record:
TOWN Wins: M3, M5, M6, M11, M17, M28, M32, M105, M108, M114, M118, M120, M122, DM1, DoM1, OZ2, RM45, RM47, RM48, RM49, RM55
TOWN Losses: M4, M7, M8, M9, M13, M14, M18, M31, M110, M111, M113, M117, M125, RM3, RM4, RM54
SCUM Wins: M2, M19, M23, M100, DM3, RM1, RM2, RM48, RM50
SCUM Losses: M15 (SK), M102 (Tr), OZ1, RM55

Total Wins: 30
Total Losses: 20

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Re: M129: Marvel Mafia 2 (Day 1)
« Reply #109 on: July 23, 2020, 12:03:01 am »

Heyo.

We could reverse engineer what roles are likely in the game based on the choices that skum made for their powers?

Normally, that would be an insta pass I know... but since skum literally knew the roles in play prior to their selections... it is not really giving them any info they don't already have.

TBF I also do not know how helpful mapping it out would be for us... thoughts?
Best play is always to treat setups as vanilla except for factors you just can't ignore.
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Re: M129: Marvel Mafia 2 (Day 1)
« Reply #110 on: July 23, 2020, 12:19:43 am »

MiX, why should I believe that you're not scum this game?

That would be way too cool for me.

Stop asking this! You have no idea how awful it is to answer this when I'm scum. Or town. Or third-party. Or anything in between. It feels like whatever I say it's scummy.

Has this been helping you?
It's frustrating to not behave in a more sortable manner, but you're probably town this game anyway.
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Re: M129: Marvel Mafia 2 (Day 1)
« Reply #111 on: July 23, 2020, 12:23:38 am »

I'm gonna box that next person who talks about mechanics again, which could be anybody, because it's all any of you are doing.  It's a really good way to make an environment where scum can hide and town can't find anything.  Please stop
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Re: M129: Marvel Mafia 2 (Day 1)
« Reply #112 on: July 23, 2020, 12:25:19 am »

Heyo.

We could reverse engineer what roles are likely in the game based on the choices that skum made for their powers?

Normally, that would be an insta pass I know... but since skum literally knew the roles in play prior to their selections... it is not really giving them any info they don't already have.

TBF I also do not know how helpful mapping it out would be for us... thoughts?
Best play is always to treat setups as vanilla except for factors you just can't ignore.

I mean if you were not a Vt in a game that has deductible logic in it and you are town you def shouldn't play it "from a vt pov" that is just wasted knowledge. But I think I get your point. and if I do, I at least moderately agree with it.
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Re: M129: Marvel Mafia 2 (Day 1)
« Reply #113 on: July 23, 2020, 12:25:50 am »

I'm gonna box that next person who talks about mechanics again, which could be anybody, because it's all any of you are doing.  It's a really good way to make an environment where scum can hide and town can't find anything.  Please stop

more than you are doing. just saying.
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Re: M129: Marvel Mafia 2 (Day 1)
« Reply #114 on: July 23, 2020, 12:30:34 am »

I'm gonna box that next person who talks about mechanics again, which could be anybody, because it's all any of you are doing.  It's a really good way to make an environment where scum can hide and town can't find anything.  Please stop

more than you are doing. just saying.

meh that comes off poorly. sorry. but if you don't like the topic being discussed you should invite another one, not just complain about what it is people are actually discussing.
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Re: M129: Marvel Mafia 2 (Day 1)
« Reply #115 on: July 23, 2020, 12:34:16 am »

Heyo.

We could reverse engineer what roles are likely in the game based on the choices that skum made for their powers?

Normally, that would be an insta pass I know... but since skum literally knew the roles in play prior to their selections... it is not really giving them any info they don't already have.

TBF I also do not know how helpful mapping it out would be for us... thoughts?
Best play is always to treat setups as vanilla except for factors you just can't ignore.

I mean if you were not a Vt in a game that has deductible logic in it and you are town you def shouldn't play it "from a vt pov" that is just wasted knowledge. But I think I get your point. and if I do, I at least moderately agree with it.
"Oh I rolled Doctor I should probably decide who the mafia want to kill tonight and message the mod their name or I'm throwing away lots of value" would be what I mean by "except for factors you can't ignore."  If you think a Doctor should participate in the dayplay in a fundamentally different way from a VT, like attempting to manipulate their chance of getting nightkilled or something, I fundamentally disagree as I think it's too hard to do; you'll play the daygame much worst or paradoxically spew your role to scum precisely because you set out to do something besides play all your games the same.
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Re: M129: Marvel Mafia 2 (Day 1)
« Reply #116 on: July 23, 2020, 12:35:34 am »

I'm gonna box that next person who talks about mechanics again, which could be anybody, because it's all any of you are doing.  It's a really good way to make an environment where scum can hide and town can't find anything.  Please stop

more than you are doing. just saying.

meh that comes off poorly. sorry. but if you don't like the topic being discussed you should invite another one, not just complain about what it is people are actually discussing.
I was intending to do that soonish.  I am playing battlegrounds while reading/rereading so it's very slow.  My last game on f.ds wasn't very active so I wasn't expecting drawing it out to make much difference
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Re: M129: Marvel Mafia 2 (Day 1)
« Reply #117 on: July 23, 2020, 12:39:03 am »

Heyo.

We could reverse engineer what roles are likely in the game based on the choices that skum made for their powers?

Normally, that would be an insta pass I know... but since skum literally knew the roles in play prior to their selections... it is not really giving them any info they don't already have.

TBF I also do not know how helpful mapping it out would be for us... thoughts?
Best play is always to treat setups as vanilla except for factors you just can't ignore.

I mean if you were not a Vt in a game that has deductible logic in it and you are town you def shouldn't play it "from a vt pov" that is just wasted knowledge. But I think I get your point. and if I do, I at least moderately agree with it.
"Oh I rolled Doctor I should probably decide who the mafia want to kill tonight and message the mod their name or I'm throwing away lots of value" would be what I mean by "except for factors you can't ignore."  If you think a Doctor should participate in the dayplay in a fundamentally different way from a VT, like attempting to manipulate their chance of getting nightkilled or something, I fundamentally disagree as I think it's too hard to do; you'll play the daygame much worst or paradoxically spew your role to scum precisely because you set out to do something besides play all your games the same.

I think our defn of "play" is different. I guess my word would be more appropriately "approach".
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Re: M129: Marvel Mafia 2 (Day 1)
« Reply #118 on: July 23, 2020, 12:41:06 am »

I'm gonna box that next person who talks about mechanics again, which could be anybody, because it's all any of you are doing.  It's a really good way to make an environment where scum can hide and town can't find anything.  Please stop

more than you are doing. just saying.

meh that comes off poorly. sorry. but if you don't like the topic being discussed you should invite another one, not just complain about what it is people are actually discussing.
I was intending to do that soonish.  I am playing battlegrounds while reading/rereading so it's very slow.  My last game on f.ds wasn't very active so I wasn't expecting drawing it out to make much difference

fds day 1s are, in a summary:
1 parts RVS
2 parts set up talk
a dash of bitters
900 dashes of MiX and faust leading random conversation
set oven to 450 and wait until 3 hours to DL and randomly lynch one of the wagons.


so if you got something to talk about. please, switch it up .
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Re: M129: Marvel Mafia 2 (Day 1)
« Reply #119 on: July 23, 2020, 12:42:00 am »

also battlegrounds like HS battlegrounds? love that game
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Re: M129: Marvel Mafia 2 (Day 1)
« Reply #120 on: July 23, 2020, 12:48:28 am »

I'm gonna box that next person who talks about mechanics again, which could be anybody, because it's all any of you are doing.  It's a really good way to make an environment where scum can hide and town can't find anything.  Please stop

more than you are doing. just saying.

meh that comes off poorly. sorry. but if you don't like the topic being discussed you should invite another one, not just complain about what it is people are actually discussing.
I was intending to do that soonish.  I am playing battlegrounds while reading/rereading so it's very slow.  My last game on f.ds wasn't very active so I wasn't expecting drawing it out to make much difference

fds day 1s are, in a summary:
1 parts RVS
2 parts set up talk
a dash of bitters
900 dashes of MiX and faust leading random conversation
set oven to 450 and wait until 3 hours to DL and randomly lynch one of the wagons.


so if you got somrething to talk about. please, switch it up .

Ha! This is great. And reflects my general feels on D1. I'm on board for a different approach. (sadly I don't have one myself)
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Re: M129: Marvel Mafia 2 (Day 1)
« Reply #121 on: July 23, 2020, 12:49:19 am »

Agreed, Space!

Oh hi Space!

I almost had the same reaction, so you're town.

Heh.. I found it so ammusing I pointed it out to my French lockdown-lodger :-P Shame I haven't managed to get him back here to play any more Mafia.

I've been out of the loop for a couple of games. Anyone want to fill me in on anything relevant that's been happening, since I'm unlikely to have time to read it all?
This is scummy posting, not terribly so and for the more obvious reasons, that the proportional lack of interest in the game at hand isn't a great look.
Heyo.

We could reverse engineer what roles are likely in the game based on the choices that skum made for their powers?

Normally, that would be an insta pass I know... but since skum literally knew the roles in play prior to their selections... it is not really giving them any info they don't already have.

TBF I also do not know how helpful mapping it out would be for us... thoughts?

I like this approach - I mean even if not helpful, I don't see how it can hurt.
It will give them information about who doesn't have certain roles. Which seems to matter them, since they chose the rolecop.
This is probably a townslip on the other hand, assuming without deciding it's true, I think scum would be likely to think of or characterize their decision in this way/with this wording.  Rolecops typically return to kill their targets the following night because they found out their target was "anything but VT".
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Re: M129: Marvel Mafia 2 (Day 1)
« Reply #122 on: July 23, 2020, 12:50:00 am »

I'm gonna box that next person who talks about mechanics again, which could be anybody, because it's all any of you are doing.  It's a really good way to make an environment where scum can hide and town can't find anything.  Please stop

more than you are doing. just saying.

meh that comes off poorly. sorry. but if you don't like the topic being discussed you should invite another one, not just complain about what it is people are actually discussing.
I was intending to do that soonish.  I am playing battlegrounds while reading/rereading so it's very slow.  My last game on f.ds wasn't very active so I wasn't expecting drawing it out to make much difference

fds day 1s are, in a summary:
1 parts RVS
2 parts set up talk
a dash of bitters
900 dashes of MiX and faust leading random conversation
set oven to 450 and wait until 3 hours to DL and randomly lynch one of the wagons.


so if you got something to talk about. please, switch it up .
Oh I am becoming aware of how I have dramatically altered this formula in the past
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Re: M129: Marvel Mafia 2 (Day 1)
« Reply #123 on: July 23, 2020, 12:52:09 am »

And yeah I have a mostly dragons comp but i'm gonna try to squeeze a Goldgrubber in
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Re: M129: Marvel Mafia 2 (Day 1)
« Reply #124 on: July 23, 2020, 12:54:34 am »

Goldgrubber is always a trap children
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