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[scolapasta]

Oh actually i targeted Faust and Awaclus so i can probably account for the remainder of the 4 people. I’m mobile rn - I’ll check in an hour if that all adds everything up or if we are still missing something.

Will you tell us what you did?

Also, have we had a vote count, recently? I think I'm ready to vote Awaclus, but would prefer to see the count first.

[Archetype]

Vote Count 3.3

Awaclus (2): LaLight, faust
faust (1): Awaclus
jotheonah (1): mail-mi


Not Voting (4): MiX, scolapasta, Swowl, jotheonah

With 8 alive it takes 5 to exile. Day 3 lasts until July 31st, 2:40 pm Forum Time

[scolapasta]

Thanks! I'm fine being the 3rd vote (x-2):

Vote: awaclus

[Swowl]

Oh actually i targeted Faust and Awaclus so i can probably account for the remainder of the 4 people. I’m mobile rn - I’ll check in an hour if that all adds everything up or if we are still missing something.

Will you tell us what you did?

Also, have we had a vote count, recently? I think I'm ready to vote Awaclus, but would prefer to see the count first.

I need to make sure everyone has claimed, but yes I do not see a point in with holding any info.

What is it that I am missing on Awaclus? Is it more than the fact that there was no kill and he was blocked? I mean MiX was also blocked right? And it is fausts claim. Why is the focus on Awaclus?

[Awaclus]

Oh wait, Awaclus targeted faust.

I did not target faust. I did not do anything last night.

[Awaclus]

Oh sorry, I posted that before reading further.

[scolapasta]

Oh actually i targeted Faust and Awaclus so i can probably account for the remainder of the 4 people. I’m mobile rn - I’ll check in an hour if that all adds everything up or if we are still missing something.

Will you tell us what you did?

Also, have we had a vote count, recently? I think I'm ready to vote Awaclus, but would prefer to see the count first.

I need to make sure everyone has claimed, but yes I do not see a point in with holding any info.

What is it that I am missing on Awaclus? Is it more than the fact that there was no kill and he was blocked? I mean MiX was also blocked right? And it is fausts claim. Why is the focus on Awaclus?

If claims are to be believed, MiX was not blocked. He "stole" a result from me.

[MiX]

If claims are to be believed, MiX was not blocked. He "stole" a result from me.

I clarified with Arch, and if you got two "No"'s, then I didn't steal from you.

[scolapasta]

That's weird, because that seems different from my understanding when I clarified with him.

[Swowl]

If claims are to be believed, MiX was not blocked. He "stole" a result from me.

I clarified with Arch, and if you got two "No"'s, then I didn't steal from you.

but you 100% still got a No correct?

[Swowl]

also scola who were the players you selected?

[Swowl]

If claims are to be believed, MiX was not blocked. He "stole" a result from me.

I clarified with Arch, and if you got two "No"'s, then I didn't steal from you.

but you 100% still got a No correct?

bc if you for sure did get a result then the situation potential is:

1. you are lying
2. pasta is lying
3. Someone should have a yes or no result that does not have one.

am I missing something - or does that check out?

[MiX]

4. One of us doesn't understand both of our roles and there's a misunderstandment.

I'm going with "I got redirected to ADK" for now. Or to scum, I guess.

[scolapasta]

My vote is 4, and I'm trying to get further clarification.

Also, I've been assuming MiX got a Yes, but he has neither confirmed nor denied that.

[scolapasta]

If claims are to be believed, MiX was not blocked. He "stole" a result from me.

I clarified with Arch, and if you got two "No"'s, then I didn't steal from you.

So when you clarified, mod told you that if you stole from me, I would not get a result at all? i.e. I would just get the other result? That just doesn't seem right. I could believe a "no result", but I have 100% confirmed that that is not a possibility.

[scolapasta]

If claims are to be believed, MiX was not blocked. He "stole" a result from me.

I clarified with Arch, and if you got two "No"'s, then I didn't steal from you.

but you 100% still got a No correct?

bc if you for sure did get a result then the situation potential is:

1. you are lying
2. pasta is lying
3. Someone should have a yes or no result that does not have one.

am I missing something - or does that check out?

Actually, I guess I don't quite understand why these options. If MiX stole from me, regardless of whether he got YES or NO, why would one of us have to be lying? I mean, if we assume that Didds did redirect, then yes, this makes sense, but we don't know for sure that that was true.

MiX, I don't see how you getting redirected fits in with my 4 result. Because if you got redirected, then my 4 result on faust should be 4 targeted him, and we have my claim that I did. (i.e. the other 3 only fit if Didds redirected from faust to awaclus, as she claimed)

[Swowl]

If claims are to be believed, MiX was not blocked. He "stole" a result from me.

I clarified with Arch, and if you got two "No"'s, then I didn't steal from you.

but you 100% still got a No correct?

bc if you for sure did get a result then the situation potential is:

1. you are lying
2. pasta is lying
3. Someone should have a yes or no result that does not have one.

am I missing something - or does that check out?

Actually, I guess I don't quite understand why these options. If MiX stole from me, regardless of whether he got YES or NO, why would one of us have to be lying? I mean, if we assume that Didds did redirect, then yes, this makes sense, but we don't know for sure that that was true.

MiX, I don't see how you getting redirected fits in with my 4 result. Because if you got redirected, then my 4 result on faust should be 4 targeted him, and we have my claim that I did. (i.e. the other 3 only fit if Didds redirected from faust to awaclus, as she claimed)

1. that is why option 3 exists. the concept you are lying is just a practical "could be". Obviously... one person in this game, at a minimum, is currently lying about something.

2. are you counting me twice in your results of "4 visits"?

[MiX]

If claims are to be believed, MiX was not blocked. He "stole" a result from me.

I clarified with Arch, and if you got two "No"'s, then I didn't steal from you.

So when you clarified, mod told you that if you stole from me, I would not get a result at all? i.e. I would just get the other result? That just doesn't seem right. I could believe a "no result", but I have 100% confirmed that that is not a possibility.

Yeah, that seems consistent with what I asked...although I really do hate asking specific questions based on the day claims. I just did generic questions that would lead me to believe that, yes, you'd get some sort of "no result"

[Swowl]

@mail-mi if I’m scum, who killed me? Nobody’s claiming to have vigged me. I suppose ADK could be a vig. But I have investigative results that say the only two people who could have targeted me the night I died were WCD and Swowl.

Hm.

I suppose that scum could have dayblocked me after I claimed I was going to rez you, since swowl has a dayblocking power.

hrmph.

it's hard to disbelieve an actual result I have on you, though.

can you float a theory on Joth being the solo kill N1 and there being no death N2?

[scolapasta]

I am counting you twice, yes.

Oh wait, does that not work?

i.e. of Didds redirected to awaclus, then we'd have 5?
Didds
me (redirected)
faust
Swowl1 (redirected)
Swowl2

But I just reread my power, and it's number of players, so I think you should only be counted once, which is 4.

[scolapasta]

If claims are to be believed, MiX was not blocked. He "stole" a result from me.

I clarified with Arch, and if you got two "No"'s, then I didn't steal from you.

So when you clarified, mod told you that if you stole from me, I would not get a result at all? i.e. I would just get the other result? That just doesn't seem right. I could believe a "no result", but I have 100% confirmed that that is not a possibility.

Yeah, that seems consistent with what I asked...although I really do hate asking specific questions based on the day claims. I just did generic questions that would lead me to believe that, yes, you'd get some sort of "no result"

I've tried also generic questions and specific examples. Based on my answers, I think your interpretation is incorrect.

[Swowl]

I am counting you twice, yes.

Oh wait, does that not work?

i.e. of Didds redirected to awaclus, then we'd have 5?
Didds
me (redirected)
faust
Swowl1 (redirected)
Swowl2

But I just reread my power, and it's number of players, so I think you should only be counted once, which is 4.

I was gonna say. I said to count me twice at first. But honestly, if it is just "number of players", then I would only count as 1

[scolapasta]

If claims are to be believed, MiX was not blocked. He "stole" a result from me.

I clarified with Arch, and if you got two "No"'s, then I didn't steal from you.

So when you clarified, mod told you that if you stole from me, I would not get a result at all? i.e. I would just get the other result? That just doesn't seem right. I could believe a "no result", but I have 100% confirmed that that is not a possibility.

Yeah, that seems consistent with what I asked...although I really do hate asking specific questions based on the day claims. I just did generic questions that would lead me to believe that, yes, you'd get some sort of "no result"

I've tried also generic questions and specific examples. Based on my answers, I think your interpretation is incorrect.

OK, received another response from mod and I'm even more satisfied with my interpretation.

MiX if you got a NO and not a YES, you should tell us know. Because my whole hypothesis breaks, if that's true.

[MiX]

MiX if you got a NO and not a YES, you should tell us know. Because my whole hypothesis breaks, if that's true.

Really? Can I just vote you for getting wrong things from the mod? My role makes no sense with your claim.

Yes, I got a Yes. Now what? What does that tell you?

[Swowl]

MiX if you got a NO and not a YES, you should tell us know. Because my whole hypothesis breaks, if that's true.

Really? Can I just vote you for getting wrong things from the mod? My role makes no sense with your claim.

Yes, I got a Yes. Now what? What does that tell you?

why would pasta just cast shade on your for whatever and then ignore you and go for Awaclus instead?