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[WestCoastDidds]

You are so, so good at scum LL. It’s unsettling.

So, yams could be a traitor, but I don’t think he scum.

I will try to insert more Portuguese randomly into my posts. I speak French, and a little Spanish, and then enough of everything else to travel. But I am so incredibly impressed by you and faust and calamity’s and everyone else playing in a second language. impressionado! I don’t know the right word for in-game trust, but it’s definitely easier among the folks I interact with most. Aside: I’m super interested in the town core concept. I think we could do this!

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Among the three, I think I trust yams> LL > Scola. I am not sure why it has been such an uphill battle to work with Scola and I feel like at this point it’s scummy. Like literally, he tells me to protect him, I protect him, and he still thinks I’m scum.

Have to go make dinner! Then time for some DNC. Back in a bit.

[MiX]

Impressionada. Words care about gender.

Oh I thought you were scumreading mail-mi, because that's the vibe I got from the 3 pages (also 25).

Really think it's scola? If so, we have XiLo to worry about.

[WestCoastDidds]

When I crate a language, it will have no gender!

So, my last three pages read has yams being way more aggressive in his defense and LL playing it lowkey. I haven’t read super closely because it as been a day, but LL does that lowkey this g whe he’s scum. I am not sure about yams, though. The last time he was scum was when he, EFHW, and e held  SwowlDidds hostage and that was super aggro, but also it was a strange game. (He was a WW with me in a multi all game, but I’m not counting that.

I think yams could be the traitor, but I don’t think he’s scum. He messsaged me the very first day. Used his name, said he could help hosts. It gave me pause, but it definitely wasn’t a scum move because he knew I could out him for doing it.

LL is being lowkey, but Scola is just being stubborn and wrong. I would have thought that not dying would have changed his mind about me/us. That it didn’t makes me wonder if it really has been the two nights of blocking that has kept you and I alive.

And as I was writing I started thinking about Joth. If Scola is his budddy (all scum could be hosts! Ha) hammering himself makes sense he had it kept Scola safe and gave him some cover. I am not sure why Joth would try the traitor appeal with LL though.

But I thought and still think that there is a scum human. I wish Scola would try to help us figure out who it is. Por favor.

What is the deal with your shots? You have a shot but it only works on a host? What about yams and LL?  LaLight...what did you learn last night, today? Yams, what powers do you have left?

[MiX]

It can easily be LL, right? But if your redirection works, then we can kill both mail-mi AND LL. And that seems like the best mechanical play.

I don't know what this game was trying to do when it was designed, but it's sure making me want to flip every human so I can see red.

I don't see an all scum host game. Maybe I'm pushing for their wincon by voting mail-mi, but...

[scolapasta]

So in this human scum game, can humans perform a NK?

[MiX]

So in this human scum game, can humans perform a NK?

Either yes, or mail-mi is scum.

[scolapasta]

So "either yes" means Lalight - then why so many nights without NKs?

and if mai-mi you're saying he cannot NK?

[MiX]

So "either yes" means Lalight - then why so many nights without NKs?

and if mai-mi you're saying he cannot NK?

Because I don't know, ask LL.

I am, yes, that's LL's theory and I like it.

[WestCoastDidds]

It can easily be LL, right? But if your redirection works, then we can kill both mail-mi AND LL. And that seems like the best mechanical play.

I don't know what this game was trying to do when it was designed, but it's sure making me want to flip every human so I can see red.

I don't see an all scum host game. Maybe I'm pushing for their wincon by voting mail-mi, but...

Kill them both... how do we do that? Exile one now, redirect to the other?

[WestCoastDidds]

If Scola is scum, and we exile yams then Scola can kill.

[WestCoastDidds]

Or in other words, why not LL first?

[MiX]

It can easily be LL, right? But if your redirection works, then we can kill both mail-mi AND LL. And that seems like the best mechanical play.

I don't know what this game was trying to do when it was designed, but it's sure making me want to flip every human so I can see red.

I don't see an all scum host game. Maybe I'm pushing for their wincon by voting mail-mi, but...

Kill them both... how do we do that? Exile one now, redirect to the other?

Exile one, shoot the other.

Remember to redirect (scola/MiX) to (ADK/Awaclus/joth) by the way. If you're successful, then my plan works, otherwise...it doesn't.

Or in other words, why not LL first?

Then I can't shoot mail-mi.

[scolapasta]

if someone is outed as scum you can message them so they will target you for maintenance

And so why didn't I do that?

Let's look at the traitor!mail-mi scenario. Joth is rezzed by swowl. Since he wasn't rezzed by me, I know that he's scum. In what world do I not message joth and say "hey, I'm the human traitor, when you die again, maintenance with me."? Answer: in this world. because I'm not a traitor.

This does make sense to me. Any reason why it doesn't to others?

I'd still like to exile MiX, fyi. He continues to push exiling mail-mi and still pings my scum radar.

MiX, Didds, did you have any thoughts on the above? (and LL, for that matter)

[MiX]

if someone is outed as scum you can message them so they will target you for maintenance

And so why didn't I do that?

Let's look at the traitor!mail-mi scenario. Joth is rezzed by swowl. Since he wasn't rezzed by me, I know that he's scum. In what world do I not message joth and say "hey, I'm the human traitor, when you die again, maintenance with me."? Answer: in this world. because I'm not a traitor.

This does make sense to me. Any reason why it doesn't to others?

I'd still like to exile MiX, fyi. He continues to push exiling mail-mi and still pings my scum radar.

MiX, Didds, did you have any thoughts on the above? (and LL, for that matter)

So it's you...? I don't get it.

I don't think MiX's scum, he's been trying to solve the game and coordinate, scum just sits back and watches us kill each other.

[scolapasta]

if someone is outed as scum you can message them so they will target you for maintenance

And so why didn't I do that?

Let's look at the traitor!mail-mi scenario. Joth is rezzed by swowl. Since he wasn't rezzed by me, I know that he's scum. In what world do I not message joth and say "hey, I'm the human traitor, when you die again, maintenance with me."? Answer: in this world. because I'm not a traitor.

This does make sense to me. Any reason why it doesn't to others?

I'd still like to exile MiX, fyi. He continues to push exiling mail-mi and still pings my scum radar.

MiX, Didds, did you have any thoughts on the above? (and LL, for that matter)

So it's you...? I don't get it.

I don't think MiX's scum, he's been trying to solve the game and coordinate, scum just sits back and watches us kill each other.

You get that I'm asking about what what mail-mi said, no?

[MiX]

Okay let's explore mail-mi's scenario:

If he's scum, he would've said something, right? So he can't be scum. By the same logic, LL can't be scum. Ergo, scola or Didds is scum, so scola's scum.

This seems wrong.

[scolapasta]

Okay let's explore mail-mi's scenario:

If he's scum, he would've said something, right? So he can't be scum. By the same logic, LL can't be scum. Ergo, scola or Didds is scum, so scola's scum.

This seems wrong.

well, first of all, how does that logic work for LL?

second, this doesn't actually answer my question. at all. and you ignore you could be scum, which is fine for you, but irrelevant for the rest of us.

[WestCoastDidds]

Yams is at x1?

[MiX]

Okay let's explore mail-mi's scenario:

If he's scum, he would've said something, right? So he can't be scum. By the same logic, LL can't be scum. Ergo, scola or Didds is scum, so scola's scum.

This seems wrong.

well, first of all, how does that logic work for LL?

second, this doesn't actually answer my question. at all. and you ignore you could be scum, which is fine for you, but irrelevant for the rest of us.

What's your question then?

Yams is at x1?

I believe so, yes.

[scolapasta]

Okay let's explore mail-mi's scenario:

If he's scum, he would've said something, right? So he can't be scum. By the same logic, LL can't be scum. Ergo, scola or Didds is scum, so scola's scum.

This seems wrong.

well, first of all, how does that logic work for LL?

second, this doesn't actually answer my question. at all. and you ignore you could be scum, which is fine for you, but irrelevant for the rest of us.

What's your question then?

Yams is at x1?

I believe so, yes.

mail-mi's scenario seems legit to me. if he were scum, then wouldn't he have had joth target him for maintenance?

[MiX]

mail-mi's scenario seems legit to me. if he were scum, then wouldn't he have had joth target him for maintenance?

By the same argument, LL would've rezzed joth if he was scum. Right?

Why are we assuming joth wanted to be rezzed this night?

[Archetype]

Vote Count 7.1

mail-mi (2): LaLight, MiX
scolapasta (1): mail-mi

Not Voting (2): WestCoastDidds, scolapasta

With 5 alive, it takes 3 to Exile. Day 7 will end August 26th at 4:00 am Forum Time

[WestCoastDidds]

Good morning, friends.

Well, in the interest of moving things along, I’ll hammer yams later today so we can get this thing moving along unless you have a better idea, Scola and/or Mix.

MiX, would you be able to shoot LL during the night?

[WestCoastDidds]

Unless in the clear light of a new day, we now think that Scola is scum instead of one of the humans.

But I’m still stuck on Faust’s insistence that there is human scum. So, I guess our off the humans plan is better. (Sheesh...how very host of us)

[scolapasta]

I'd ask that we hold off on the hammer. We have time.

I spent last night rereading D1. I was planning on continuing that tonight / this weekend.