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Re: RMM57: Westworld Mafia (Day 4)
« Reply #1325 on: August 05, 2020, 09:32:23 pm »

@Swowl I also have a roleblock option. I don't open a QT with them, they get sent a message (presumably in their own QT or over the forum).

ok sorry I think I have missed something then. When is it that you can activate the 1 shot powers? Is that if you successfully message a host during the day? or is that a separate thing at night?
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Re: RMM57: Westworld Mafia (Day 4)
« Reply #1326 on: August 05, 2020, 09:33:57 pm »

Vote: faust

I hate it when I accidentally contradict my fakeclaim.

Hmm, what?

This:

And on the "all scum are hosts" theory - within the flavor, human parkgoers also get weapons that cannot hurt other humans, so I don't think scum being unable to kill humans would necessarily mean  that they are all hosts.

also doesn't your one off ability make it so if you are killed by a human the night kill becomes ninja? would kind of dictate that there is skum!humans yeah?
That's true, I forgot about that. Unless it's a red herring.

Town faust doesn't forget parts of his own ability that contradict his theories. Scum!faust who has to keep track of his fakeclaim and his real role? Yeah.

I will add that the last time I got caught as scum it was because I forgot something I'd claimed and contradicted it.

I mean this was obviously what I was trying to bring up when I asked faust... but if it is a fake claim then it is just so overly specific. and then bc so specific... you really think he forgets about it?
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Re: RMM57: Westworld Mafia (Day 4)
« Reply #1327 on: August 05, 2020, 10:37:37 pm »

I’ll ask arch about the targeting results. You all would know better than me since you actually mod stuff. It feels like when I’m redirecting that the target is the one who is the redirected to, but what makes sense to me often makes no sense.

I know that is a minor point, but I’ll try to clear it up

I specifically asked about this when we were sorting it out. I was told I'd get a yes for Didds in this situation. (this was before I learned the MiX stole by answer)
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Re: RMM57: Westworld Mafia (Day 4)
« Reply #1328 on: August 05, 2020, 10:38:10 pm »

I target both the people involved in the redirect.

So, N1 I targeted ADK and Joth
N2, faust and Awaclus
D3, faust (for maintenance)
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Re: RMM57: Westworld Mafia (Day 4)
« Reply #1329 on: August 05, 2020, 10:38:52 pm »

I’ll ask arch about the targeting results. You all would know better than me since you actually mod stuff. It feels like when I’m redirecting that the target is the one who is the redirected to, but what makes sense to me often makes no sense.

I know that is a minor point, but I’ll try to clear it up

I specifically asked about this when we were sorting it out. I was told I'd get a yes for Didds in this situation. (this was before I learned the MiX stole by answer)

Cool. Cool cool cool.
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Re: RMM57: Westworld Mafia (Day 4)
« Reply #1330 on: August 05, 2020, 10:45:16 pm »

wait so to be clear... the assumption is that WCD did in fact come back as a YES... just that MiX got said YES instead of scola right?
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Re: RMM57: Westworld Mafia (Day 4)
« Reply #1331 on: August 05, 2020, 11:04:54 pm »

wait so to be clear... the assumption is that WCD did in fact come back as a YES... just that MiX got said YES instead of scola right?

Correct
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Re: RMM57: Westworld Mafia (Day 4)
« Reply #1332 on: August 06, 2020, 12:32:16 am »

@Swowl I also have a roleblock option. I don't open a QT with them, they get sent a message (presumably in their own QT or over the forum).

ok sorry I think I have missed something then. When is it that you can activate the 1 shot powers? Is that if you successfully message a host during the day? or is that a separate thing at night?

It is when I successfully message a host during the day.
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Re: RMM57: Westworld Mafia (Day 4)
« Reply #1333 on: August 06, 2020, 12:42:01 am »

K. Completely open. This is where I am at.

1. I think it would be most valuable for me to shoot a human. I think that it would be increasingly valuable if I shoot a human, and if they are town (assuming the shot works) we then lynch another human.
I know I played into it, but it was just for kicks and reads... I think there is a 0% chance that skum is all host. If anything maybe they have a edit on their maintenance that says they cannot be brought back by their own faction. But all host, given what we "know" no way. I don't have a better explanation, or better reasoning, but I think that there is at least one skum Human. Because of that, I want to start taking out humans. The downsides are noted, so save it, I get how it sounds, it is just what I think is best.

2. Second choice is to shoot mix or scola. huge gap on that though.

3. Third would be to not shoot at all.

4. Fourth favorite is to shoot a host. This would play into the "skum being able to do things based on x" idea. As Joth has been alive and still no death, not a huge fan of that. and with the new WCD info as says the MOD, not a huge fan of that either.

Right now it is LaLight. 10 hours to change my mind if you care.
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Re: RMM57: Westworld Mafia (Day 4)
« Reply #1334 on: August 06, 2020, 12:42:32 am »

@Swowl I also have a roleblock option. I don't open a QT with them, they get sent a message (presumably in their own QT or over the forum).

ok sorry I think I have missed something then. When is it that you can activate the 1 shot powers? Is that if you successfully message a host during the day? or is that a separate thing at night?

It is when I successfully message a host during the day.

so what can you do at night?
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Re: RMM57: Westworld Mafia (Day 4)
« Reply #1335 on: August 06, 2020, 01:09:31 am »

Right now it is LaLight. 10 hours to change my mind if you care.
LaLight is literally the towniest player alive.
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Re: RMM57: Westworld Mafia (Day 4)
« Reply #1336 on: August 06, 2020, 01:11:01 am »

Do you think they have that role as scum? Do you think they make it up? What's even going on in your head?
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Re: RMM57: Westworld Mafia (Day 4)
« Reply #1337 on: August 06, 2020, 01:59:53 am »

And nice to make a whole show of "who do you want me to shoot" only to go for someone that literally noone proposed.
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Re: RMM57: Westworld Mafia (Day 4)
« Reply #1338 on: August 06, 2020, 05:23:33 am »


LaLight - Has a list of abilities they are working their way down to learn who has them? They get to target 2 people per night and learn if they were targeted by the ability that they seek. Then they get to guess a name for the ability and are told yes or no? *********is that correct? I am still confused by your ability a little I think****
Also, can re-direct Host exiles to the target they are on at EOD. - can you still do this??*****

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I don't have the list of abilities, not their names or effects, I need to find them. Also at night I target people and see if people with ability I seek targeted them.
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Re: RMM57: Westworld Mafia (Day 4)
« Reply #1339 on: August 06, 2020, 05:46:26 am »

My primary issues right now still are with ....

1. Joth v MailMi
a) Joth was not brought back via MM claim - either day block or one of them is lying. 
b) Joth only got Swowl and WCD on the target list... since I did not kill Joth, it either means that ADK was the attempted target (so town) and that shot was RD'd from aDK to Joth (so WCD probably also... town), and Swowl is Town... so Just would be Skum there I feel like.... or alternatively, WCD is skum and they just shot Joth.
The redirection theory doesn't work here as the redirected folks would also have shown up on joth's list. It has to be one of Didds/you who did the killing (spoiler: it's you!)

3. faust - I am suspicious to the extent that 2/3 people he targeted have claimed to take no actions and the person he targeted on Day 1 is still alive and no flip... so again just a lack of confirmation. Flip green would mean like essentially nothing. Flip red is huge FOS on WCD and small on on Pasta.
How would confirmation even help you... clearly Roleblocker is a power that scum can just have. Also I claimed both my blocks of the people who did not action before they claimed to have done so, so unless your theory is that I am in cahoots with all of scola/Awaclus/MiX, I don't see how that's not confirmation.

4. LaLight - Ability is just skummy af. its a hunter essentially. I need to put in some time looking at the connections their claims would have to people because running out of time and I am just so confused by their role in general.
What does this even mean? Why is it scummy?
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Re: RMM57: Westworld Mafia (Day 4)
« Reply #1340 on: August 06, 2020, 05:48:53 am »

@LaLight: Could you vote for Swowl? I think it is best if we can exile him before he gets a chance to use his shot.
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Re: RMM57: Westworld Mafia (Day 4)
« Reply #1341 on: August 06, 2020, 05:50:00 am »

We have a window of time where Swowl is unavailable right now, and we should absolutely quixile.
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Re: RMM57: Westworld Mafia (Day 4)
« Reply #1342 on: August 06, 2020, 06:59:05 am »

Vote: Swowl, sure. He doesn't make any sense
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Re: RMM57: Westworld Mafia (Day 4)
« Reply #1343 on: August 06, 2020, 06:59:36 am »

I mean, @Swowl, I am sorry, but the fact you don't understand my ability doesn't make me scum
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Re: RMM57: Westworld Mafia (Day 4)
« Reply #1344 on: August 06, 2020, 08:38:57 am »

Vote: Swowl
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Re: RMM57: Westworld Mafia (Day 4)
« Reply #1345 on: August 06, 2020, 08:39:22 am »

X-1, I think
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Re: RMM57: Westworld Mafia (Day 4)
« Reply #1346 on: August 06, 2020, 08:40:21 am »

I feel like the sharing of his thoughts is pretty towny, but either he killed Joth or it was a ninja because I for sure didn’t.
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Re: RMM57: Westworld Mafia (Day 4)
« Reply #1347 on: August 06, 2020, 08:42:16 am »

I mean, @Swowl, I am sorry, but the fact you don't understand my ability doesn't make me scum

Does it make him scum?

I feel like the sharing of his thoughts is pretty towny, but either he killed Joth or it was a ninja because I for sure didn’t.

I guess? I'd still rather have him dayvig mail-mi first.
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Re: RMM57: Westworld Mafia (Day 4)
« Reply #1348 on: August 06, 2020, 08:52:42 am »

I feel like the sharing of his thoughts is pretty towny, but either he killed Joth or it was a ninja because I for sure didn’t.

I guess? I'd still rather have him dayvig mail-mi first.
He won't though, if he knows that he's going down, he'll try to do as much damage as he can.
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Re: RMM57: Westworld Mafia (Day 4)
« Reply #1349 on: August 06, 2020, 08:55:42 am »

And as much as things are weird I don't think mail-mi would play the way that he did as scum.
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