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Re: RMM56: Stormlight Archive Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #2525 on: June 28, 2020, 01:18:50 pm »

For glooble to arrange:

Cop

1. chairs
2.GHS(modcop and strengthener)

Doctor

1.chairs
2.swowl
3.galzria

Watcher

1.rhand(also bodyguard/blocker/stopper)
2.jimmm(also bodyguard/blocker/stopper)
3.lalight (also follows)
(4. faust- no stormlight)

Lightweaver(tracker and inventor)

1.scolapasta

Vig

1.dylan
2. Lalight

Bondsmith (strengthener/blocker/stopper)-

1. glooble

remaining: Mix ; Eddie : Hypercube
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Re: RMM56: Stormlight Archive Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #2526 on: June 28, 2020, 01:27:39 pm »

It is highly likely that scum have access to the abrasion surge. We should focus our efforts on Galzria, Swowl, Dylan.
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Re: RMM56: Stormlight Archive Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #2527 on: June 28, 2020, 01:58:04 pm »

I didn't get enough spheres to vig. Galz pushed pretty hard to make sure I wouldn't.
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Re: RMM56: Stormlight Archive Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #2528 on: June 28, 2020, 02:23:08 pm »

Well chairs, you can ask something like "are there mafia-aligned Edgedancers" and I'll ask "are there mafia-aligned Duskbringers", this way we should be able to cover both things.

Although I'd like for one of us to do the question first, because if there are mafia-aligned Edgedancers then we should sort those out first, right.

I'm thinking I should ask the first question. What do you think Glooble?
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Re: RMM56: Stormlight Archive Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #2529 on: June 28, 2020, 02:31:11 pm »

So, Mi, are you like a full-on Truthwatcher now or do you just happen to have the same power as chairs?
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Re: RMM56: Stormlight Archive Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #2530 on: June 28, 2020, 02:31:31 pm »

So, Mi, are you like a full-on Truthwatcher now or do you just happen to have the same power as chairs?
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Re: RMM56: Stormlight Archive Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #2531 on: June 28, 2020, 02:31:53 pm »

I have other powers, this is one of them. I claimed the rest to Uncle.
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Re: RMM56: Stormlight Archive Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #2532 on: June 28, 2020, 02:33:55 pm »

I'd like MiX to ask how much the bondsmith order power costs, or somethingelse that is not yet publicly known and wouldn't be known to scum either.
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Re: RMM56: Stormlight Archive Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #2533 on: June 28, 2020, 02:34:40 pm »

I didn't get enough spheres to vig. Galz pushed pretty hard to make sure I wouldn't.

This is accurate. My original suggestion was that, as I had no huge use for spheres (15 for a Doctor shot which has a slim chance of hitting the correct target, and only matters if they aren’t Rolestopped or I’m not blocked):

Dylan could set out 55 spheres, and he needed 50 to Vig. If one of Scola or I stole from him we would receive 27, and Dylan would keep 28 (I assumed he gets the rounded up half). He would need 22 more spheres to reach 50. I suggested Scola & I only place out 42 so that the most Dylan could get from us was 21. I offered Scola to be the one to steal from Dylan because, as I said, I don’t need the spheres.

This would give me 42, Scola 42+27, and Dylan 28. Dylan could then gain an additional 21 from either Scola or me depending on who he stole from.

Scola rejected the plan though as he wanted to guarantee he ended with at least 60 or more, and if Dylan stole from him he wouldn’t reach that value.

In the end Scola & I both put out 20 Dun to protect our charge. I assume Scola stole from Dylan. I attempted to steal from Scola to keep him honest from charging all 90 of his spheres (which is how I know that he did in fact use the 20 Dun as we stated).

I have 50 now. I assume Dylan has 28 & Scola has 97.
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TOWN Losses: M4, M7, M8, M9, M13, M14, M18, M31, M110, M111, M113, M117, M125, RM3, RM4, RM54
SCUM Wins: M2, M19, M23, M100, DM3, RM1, RM2, RM48, RM50
SCUM Losses: M15 (SK), M102 (Tr), OZ1, RM55

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Re: RMM56: Stormlight Archive Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #2534 on: June 28, 2020, 02:36:21 pm »

I'd like MiX to ask how much the bondsmith order power costs, or somethingelse that is not yet publicly known and wouldn't be known to scum either.

Boring. I'd rather die and give you information than prove I'm an oracle.

I can die now! I don't need to do self-preservation anymore.
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Re: RMM56: Stormlight Archive Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #2535 on: June 28, 2020, 02:39:02 pm »

I'd like MiX to ask how much the bondsmith order power costs, or somethingelse that is not yet publicly known and wouldn't be known to scum either.

Boring. I'd rather die and give you information than prove I'm an oracle.

I can die now! I don't need to do self-preservation anymore.
Or you could ask whether we can trust Eddie. I still don't know the guy's win condition and it bothers me.
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Re: RMM56: Stormlight Archive Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #2536 on: June 28, 2020, 02:40:19 pm »

I just don't think we need more info on Galz/Dylan/Swowl, we have plenty of investigative powers.
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Re: RMM56: Stormlight Archive Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #2537 on: June 28, 2020, 02:41:21 pm »

I'd like MiX to ask how much the bondsmith order power costs, or somethingelse that is not yet publicly known and wouldn't be known to scum either.

Boring. I'd rather die and give you information than prove I'm an oracle.

I can die now! I don't need to do self-preservation anymore.
Or you could ask whether we can trust Eddie. I still don't know the guy's win condition and it bothers me.

We can just kill him when we're out of leads. And then me. We have enough time to test us.

I just don't think we need more info on Galz/Dylan/Swowl, we have plenty of investigative powers.

Hmm. That's understandable.

How would you make an oracle question that finds out whether uncle's a survivor or not?
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Re: RMM56: Stormlight Archive Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #2538 on: June 28, 2020, 02:57:02 pm »

I'd like MiX to ask how much the bondsmith order power costs, or somethingelse that is not yet publicly known and wouldn't be known to scum either.

Boring. I'd rather die and give you information than prove I'm an oracle.

I can die now! I don't need to do self-preservation anymore.
Or you could ask whether we can trust Eddie. I still don't know the guy's win condition and it bothers me.

We can just kill him when we're out of leads. And then me. We have enough time to test us.

I just don't think we need more info on Galz/Dylan/Swowl, we have plenty of investigative powers.

Hmm. That's understandable.

How would you make an oracle question that finds out whether uncle's a survivor or not?

”’‘Tis a simple matter, simply divine whether or not ‘The King’s Wit’ wins the game by surviving to the end of days, with no other terms to such a victory.”
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Re: RMM56: Stormlight Archive Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #2539 on: June 28, 2020, 02:58:53 pm »

Does that even work? I mean, what if there was no "The King's Wit" in the game? How could the mods answer?

Also, EFHW was right, dammit I feel like an idiot.
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Re: RMM56: Stormlight Archive Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #2540 on: June 28, 2020, 03:00:37 pm »

”I will also throw out another tidbit of useful information regarding Oracles. The term ‘Survivor’ is but a self-titled term that accurately represents my victory condition. It doth not appear in any document that I have received, despite its meaning ringing true.”
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Re: RMM56: Stormlight Archive Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #2541 on: June 28, 2020, 03:02:03 pm »

Does that even work? I mean, what if there was no "The King's Wit" in the game? How could the mods answer?

Also, EFHW was right, dammit I feel like an idiot.

”The answer would have to be ‘no’ which would paint me a liar regardless.”
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Re: RMM56: Stormlight Archive Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #2542 on: June 28, 2020, 03:02:44 pm »

”I will also throw out another tidbit of useful information regarding Oracles. The term ‘Survivor’ is but a self-titled term that accurately represents my victory condition. It doth not appear in any document that I have received, despite its meaning ringing true.”

I confirm this.

Does that even work? I mean, what if there was no "The King's Wit" in the game? How could the mods answer?

Also, EFHW was right, dammit I feel like an idiot.

”The answer would have to be ‘no’ which would paint me a liar regardless.”

Why would it have to be a no?
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Re: RMM56: Stormlight Archive Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #2543 on: June 28, 2020, 03:13:19 pm »

How would you make an oracle question that finds out whether uncle's a survivor or not?
"Can all players who are not Knights Radiant win with town?"
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Re: RMM56: Stormlight Archive Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #2544 on: June 28, 2020, 03:14:57 pm »

How would you make an oracle question that finds out whether uncle's a survivor or not?
"Can all players who are not Knights Radiant win with town?"

Uh...maybe he can't win with town anymore? It's also weird with my own win condition...thing...

Not bad. But it doesn't tell us how he wins with town if he does.
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Re: RMM56: Stormlight Archive Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #2545 on: June 28, 2020, 03:42:04 pm »

Putting it out there- Hyper could have been exile proofed so we shouldn't wait until deadline to exile him.

Also wouldn't it be useful to ask "how many scum are there?"
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Re: RMM56: Stormlight Archive Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #2546 on: June 28, 2020, 03:44:02 pm »

Putting it out there- Hyper could have been exile proofed so we shouldn't wait until deadline to exile him.

Also wouldn't it be useful to ask "how many scum are there?"

Yes, but there's better questions.

I suppose it is incredibly likely hyper's exileproof today. Huh.
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Re: RMM56: Stormlight Archive Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #2547 on: June 28, 2020, 05:14:33 pm »

Oh shoot. That's definitely something we should have considered.

How likely is it scum has a second alignment inverter? Given that joth was one and is dead? Seems unlikely to me.

I'm not sure it makes sense for me to direct our cop shots. It definitely doesn't make sense for me to direct our watchers though.
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Re: RMM56: Stormlight Archive Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #2548 on: June 28, 2020, 06:48:17 pm »


How likely is it scum has a second alignment inverter? Given that joth was one and is dead? Seems unlikely to me.


I wouldn't make that assumption
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Re: RMM56: Stormlight Archive Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #2549 on: June 28, 2020, 07:07:11 pm »

It’s worth pointing out that a scum!Edgedancer could make Hyper lynch-proof today for 30 Spheres.

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TOWN Wins: M3, M5, M6, M11, M17, M28, M32, M105, M108, M114, M118, M120, M122, DM1, DoM1, OZ2, RM45, RM47, RM48, RM49, RM55
TOWN Losses: M4, M7, M8, M9, M13, M14, M18, M31, M110, M111, M113, M117, M125, RM3, RM4, RM54
SCUM Wins: M2, M19, M23, M100, DM3, RM1, RM2, RM48, RM50
SCUM Losses: M15 (SK), M102 (Tr), OZ1, RM55

Total Wins: 30
Total Losses: 20
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