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[WestCoastDidds]

GHS is on my scummy list, but he's new to us, so I'm taking that with a grain of salt

[Uncleeurope]

Vote: Jimmmmm

If Uncle says EFHW is town, EFHW is town.

I will say that it doesn’t quite work like that.

[Swowl]

Vote: Faust

Waking up- I’ll be back.

[MiX]

Eh I guess I don't want faust to be lynched.

Vote: EFHW

[WestCoastDidds]

Yup.

Just sharing my reads on people who most are overlooking.

I mean, if EFHW/Hyper/Faust are all town, who is bad?

My list, and maybe Scout, although I am not huge about that one at the moment.

I think Jimm is very shifty right now. Especially considering how much he seems to be trusted by everyone else for saying so little.

You think EFHW is town? Why is that?

[mail-mi]

"They named it the Final Desolation, but they lied. Our gods lied. Oh, how they lied. The Everstorm comes. I hear its whispers, see its stormwall, know its heart."

—Collected on Tanatanes 1173, 8 seconds pre-death, by the Silent Gatherers. Subject was an Azish itinerant worker. Sample of particular note.

Vote Count 1.12

chairs (1): Dylan32
hypercube (2): Rhand, jotheonah
EFHW (8): faust, Uncleeurope, Jimmmmm, LaLight, WestCoastDidds, chairs, hypercube, MiX {L-2}
Galzria (1): GreathallScout
faust (5): scolapasta, EFHW, Galzria, cayvie, Swowl

Not Voting (1): Glooble

With 18 alive it takes 10 to lynch.

Day 1 ends at 3:00pm FT on June 12, 2020. That's in 1.5 hours.

[Rhand]

I can see EFHW scum, I have a hard time seeing faust scum.

That said, I still have a Windrunner problem. So if cube is off the table, mechanically faust is the better lynch :/

Don’t know what to do.

[jotheonah]

vote: faust I guess?

[scolapasta]

Can we get 5 more for faust? Is anyone currently on EFHW willing to consider faust? If not, we'd need all 5 others:

Dylan
Rhand
joth
GHS
Gloobie


PPE 4 others

[MiX]

Can we get 5 more for faust? Is anyone currently on EFHW willing to consider faust? If not, we'd need all 5 others:

Dylan
Rhand
joth
GHS
Gloobie


PPE 4 others

I'll hammer, but...

[WestCoastDidds]

Hyper- is faust currently a full Windrunner, too?

[scolapasta]

Can we get 5 more for faust? Is anyone currently on EFHW willing to consider faust? If not, we'd need all 5 others:

Dylan
Rhand
joth
GHS
Gloobie


PPE 4 others

I'll hammer, but...

So faust is at an effective L-3 (with Mix hammer)
EFHW at L-2, possibly effective L-1 if there's a hammer there, as well.

[hypercube]

Hyper- is faust currently a full Windrunner, too?

As far as I know he has the same powers as me.

[scolapasta]

Can we get 5 more for faust? Is anyone currently on EFHW willing to consider faust? If not, we'd need all 5 others:

Dylan
Rhand
joth
GHS
Gloobie


PPE 4 others

I'll hammer, but...

So faust is at an effective L-3 (with Mix hammer)
EFHW at L-2, possibly effective L-1 if there's a hammer there, as well.

And whether town or not, cube seems to have saved himself (though endangered his "squire") with his claim.

[Rhand]

I’m just gonna say it because I keep talking around it and for mafia it’s probably obvious by now.

I am a windrunner. I confirm the bodyguard.
That means 3 watcher / roleblock combo’s in town.
And rolestopper is a mafia ability.

[Glooble]

I am willing to hammer either EFHW or faust.

[WestCoastDidds]

Can we get 5 more for faust? Is anyone currently on EFHW willing to consider faust? If not, we'd need all 5 others:

Dylan
Rhand
joth
GHS
Gloobie


PPE 4 others

I feel a billion times better lynching a bus driver/rracker/commuter/modifed cop/redirector than role blocker/role stopper/lightening rod/ watcher.

[scolapasta]

I’m just gonna say it because I keep talking around it and for mafia it’s probably obvious by now.

I am a windrunner. I confirm the bodyguard.
That means 3 watcher / roleblock combo’s in town.
And rolestopper is a mafia ability.

If there are in fact 3 windrunners, at least one has to be scum, no?

Though one or more of the windrunners may be lying? I don't see that though, since if one of cube/faust is twon that doesn't work. This could be a confirmation lie, but also seems risky.

i.e. I'm believing there are 3 and feeling pretty good about my faust vote.

[Glooble]

People are treating watcher like its some super powerful investigative role in a game with at least four investigative roles, three of which are arguably more powerful, and honestly I don't get it.

[WestCoastDidds]

I’m just gonna say it because I keep talking around it and for mafia it’s probably obvious by now.

I am a windrunner. I confirm the bodyguard.
That means 3 watcher / roleblock combo’s in town.
And rolestopper is a mafia ability.

If there are in fact 3 windrunners, at least one has to be scum, no?

Though one or more of the windrunners may be lying? I don't see that though, since if one of cube/faust is twon that doesn't work. This could be a confirmation lie, but also seems risky.

i.e. I'm believing there are 3 and feeling pretty good about my faust vote.

I don't know why that would be true, especially if it is randomized.

[Greathallscout]

is the faust wagon because people think 1 town and 1 scum is most likely in the squire situation? I think it's too hard to tell what the setup will be here.

Faust seemed null to me beforehand and I don't see how the claim made them more scummy.

[Rhand]

People are treating watcher like its some super powerful investigative role in a game with at least four investigative roles, three of which are arguably more powerful, and honestly I don't get it.

“people” is me.
I do come from a site where cops are frowned upon in setups.
Watcher is the next most powerful investigative role. Guessing the NK is easier than guessing who does it (tracker).

[WestCoastDidds]

People are treating watcher like its some super powerful investigative role in a game with at least four investigative roles, three of which are arguably more powerful, and honestly I don't get it.

EFHW can potentially track and faust can potentially watch, so I think that's pretty even. 

I am more concerned about her ability to bus drive and redirect, while he can lightening rod and role stop. The latter seems far better for town.

[WestCoastDidds]

Rhand, do you have a squire, too?

[MiX]

People are treating watcher like its some super powerful investigative role in a game with at least four investigative roles, three of which are arguably more powerful, and honestly I don't get it.

“people” is me.
I do come from a site where cops are frowned upon in setups.
Watcher is the next most powerful investigative role. Guessing the NK is easier than guessing who does it (tracker).

You, pops, and hopefully everyone else, Watcher is very strong and almost impossible to fake claim, which makes it pretty good in this setup. It can also catch scum with non-killing actions sometimes.

People are treating watcher like its some super powerful investigative role in a game with at least four investigative roles, three of which are arguably more powerful, and honestly I don't get it.

EFHW can potentially track and faust can potentially watch, so I think that's pretty even. 

I am more concerned about her ability to bus drive and redirect, while he can lightening rod and role stop. The latter seems far better for town.

I thought we were scumhunting, not lynching anti-town roles. Dylan's here if we want to do that instead.