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[MiX]

I think scum!faust is likely too good to try such a thing about the dustbringers.

For the record, that is the laziest and worst possible reason to dismiss something against anyone.

Really? I guess my point is it seems that if it is a non town move, that gets discovered quickly and gets lots of suspicion. I also probably didn't say it right - I'm not saying I don't think that faust isn't scum, just that calling this claim is not yet enough reason for me to vote him.

I will admit 18 people is tough to keep track of. And lots to read. I mean I was caught up last night and when I checked today, there were like 5 pages of posts!

It wasn't a town move and people aren't scumreading him for that.

[LaLight]

"Take Quiet Times (QT's) often, and consistently, guys. It's good for your health."

why? you said it twice and nothing happened there

[LaLight]

vote: Glooble

and joth, you said twice, that you hard townread him and never said why.

[jotheonah]

After some consideration, I’ll support no lynch over a bad lynch day 1 but I think it’s very possible we’ll find a good lynch.

I’m basically never voting Eddie today. And I’m strongly townreading Glooble. And vaguely townreading Didds. Nobody else has pinged my radar one way or another though I am slightly miffed at EFHW’s vote.

Expand on those townreads please? Both Glooble and Didds are on my possible scum list.
And why the chairs vote?

I know Glooble very well (we’re IRL twins) and I’m usually pretty good at reading him. I also know Didds well but only from the site. Both are playing their town games and I usually can tell when they’re not.

I voted for chairs because his reaction to my no lynch suggestion was exactly the reaction scum would have.

[jotheonah]

vote: Glooble

and joth, you said twice, that you hard townread him and never said why.

Because it’s totally obvious!

[cayvie]

vote: Glooble

and joth, you said twice, that you hard townread him and never said why.

Because it’s totally obvious!

Are there any distinctive differences between his town and scum games

[Dylan32]

"Take Quiet Times (QT's) often, and consistently, guys. It's good for your health."

why? you said it twice and nothing happened there

Perhaps it's not something that involves everyone at once.

[Uncleeurope]

"Take Quiet Times (QT's) often, and consistently, guys. It's good for your health."

why? you said it twice and nothing happened there

Perhaps it's not something that involves everyone at once.

Do Houses and Orders flip?

[Uncleeurope]

Didn’t mean to quote... Whoops...

[jotheonah]

vote: Glooble

and joth, you said twice, that you hard townread him and never said why.

Glooble is one of those players who plays more cautiously as scum and more recklessly as town.

[mail-mi]

Do Houses and Orders flip?

A player will flip with their alignment, House, and Order.

[Jimmmmm]

Thought so far...

-I'm not sure that I'm capable of forming Day 1 reads in a game this big. It's very difficult to keep track of who's who, especially when most posts happen overnight for me.
-I'm hella confused about the flavour and bringers and breakers and runners and dancers (although to be fair I seem to have somehow missed the details provided in #2 until now).
- I have no opinion about Eddie.
- I expect that the distribution of scum in houses is completely random.
- I expect that scum kills do not cost spheres.
- EFHW's stealing pact suggestion seems reasonable, and I'm inclined to give her a small amount of Town points for it. I think generally speaking (assuming scum kills don't cost spheres), having more spheres around is good for Town. If scum get their kills for free, then whatever they can get from the spheres is probably worth less than the opportunity of Townies to get results and stop kills. So while it doesn't cost spheres to steal, it costs spheres to prevent stealing. However I agree that each house should come to consensus among themselves, as it will be a heck of a lot easier to do with so many fewer voices.
- joth's suggestion of a no-lynch sounds reasonable in theory, but in practice early no-lynches just make the game more difficult. I don't think it was a scummy suggestion.

[Greathallscout]

On the house claiming thing: I wouldn’t assume all houses are well populated. I played a GoT flavored game once with everyone in factions with Nightchats, and I was in the Frey faction all by myself.
I would also not be surprised if Greathallscout is a hitman that needs to kill people from certain houses.

@Glooble / Greathallscout / Dylan32 / MiX: Is it normal on this site to muse about third parties early on?

A lot to read...sorry been busy a skimmed a lot and will do a full read when i wake up.

 I reallly think hitman is unlikely here especially with the moderator's game change of making it clearer whos in which house.

I don't really know what is normal as I haven't read so many games.

[faust]

vote: faust

Unfortunately I think Dylan is correct here in that by the time he got on it was too late to push back against this, and thus at this time claiming was the right play.

I also believe that scum likely gain far more value from knowing Dylan than town - and that scum likely didn’t give two hoots about having that potential fake claim “taken away”. I’ve never once played in a game where scum has gone “damn, if only I hadn’t lost the ability to fake claim that one role!”.

I believe faust used the pretext of outting a role that he can argue is anti-town for pro-scum motives.

I like how you vaguely point to some mysterious hidden agenda without giving any specifics of how outing Dylan could actually help scum.

[faust]

Then you’re bad at playing scum.

Lol I guess I must also be bad at playing scum.

[faust]

I think scum!faust is likely too good to try such a thing about the dustbringers.

For the record, that is the laziest and worst possible reason to dismiss something against anyone.

It's good that we estiblished that I'm actually bad at playing scum!

[cayvie]

I think scum!faust is likely too good to try such a thing about the dustbringers.

For the record, that is the laziest and worst possible reason to dismiss something against anyone.

It's good that we estiblished that I'm actually bad at playing scum!

faust where's the prickliness comin from? i ask because it feels a little like you're trying to force it, but i don't want to be like "oo faust is scum, he's faking an emotional response" if there's somethin actually bugging you in game.

[cayvie]

I voted for chairs because his reaction to my no lynch suggestion was exactly the reaction scum would have.

so EFHW's reaction was such:

Nice details mail-mi!

Sounds like Eddie is claiming Wit, a mysterious fellow who also goes by Hoid and appears in all the cosmere books, not just this series.

vote: joth. No lynch seems bad for town and his reasons were strange.

your response here was that "Nobody else has pinged my radar one way or another though I am slightly miffed at EFHW’s vote." (261)

chairs's reaction:

I'm personally hard no on the stealing pact and vote: jotheonah because HARD NO on ever suggesting no lynch D1.

im wondering what the key difference between EFHW's and chairs's reactions is here? why is one "exactly the reaction scum would have" and the other doesn't ping your radar?

[faust]

I think scum!faust is likely too good to try such a thing about the dustbringers.

For the record, that is the laziest and worst possible reason to dismiss something against anyone.

It's good that we estiblished that I'm actually bad at playing scum!

faust where's the prickliness comin from? i ask because it feels a little like you're trying to force it, but i don't want to be like "oo faust is scum, he's faking an emotional response" if there's somethin actually bugging you in game.

It was just intending to make fun of Galzria's position, I'm not offended or anything. I guess that sort of tone doesn't always translate well into written posts.

[faust]

I voted for chairs because his reaction to my no lynch suggestion was exactly the reaction scum would have.

so EFHW's reaction was such:

Nice details mail-mi!

Sounds like Eddie is claiming Wit, a mysterious fellow who also goes by Hoid and appears in all the cosmere books, not just this series.

vote: joth. No lynch seems bad for town and his reasons were strange.

your response here was that "Nobody else has pinged my radar one way or another though I am slightly miffed at EFHW’s vote." (261)

chairs's reaction:

I'm personally hard no on the stealing pact and vote: jotheonah because HARD NO on ever suggesting no lynch D1.

im wondering what the key difference between EFHW's and chairs's reactions is here? why is one "exactly the reaction scum would have" and the other doesn't ping your radar?

I wholehartedly support your call for people to vote for EFHW.

[Rhand]

@Dibbs please answer #385?

Well good. People in Dylan's House, you know who to steal from. I won't have much more time for this tonight unfortunately.

You don’t want the vig to vig?

[faust]

@Dibbs please answer #385?

Well good. People in Dylan's House, you know who to steal from. I won't have much more time for this tonight unfortunately.

You don’t want the vig to vig?

Not at the cost of 50 spheres.

[MiX]

@Dibbs please answer #385?

Well good. People in Dylan's House, you know who to steal from. I won't have much more time for this tonight unfortunately.

You don’t want the vig to vig?

Not at the cost of 50 spheres.

What else are Dustbringers going to do?

[faust]

@Dibbs please answer #385?

Well good. People in Dylan's House, you know who to steal from. I won't have much more time for this tonight unfortunately.

You don’t want the vig to vig?

Not at the cost of 50 spheres.

What else are Dustbringers going to do?

Nothing, hopefully. Let their spheres get taken by people who have better uses for them.

[faust]

It's good that Dylan clarified that Dustbringers have no useful special ability either. I think that warrants some townpoints.