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[LaLight]

redirectors are a positive utility when claimed and cooperated but i think it's not the time, there are other roles and they might be more powerful

[LaLight]

i don't townread shraeye, but i feel him on more townie side due to him understanding me and overall talking to me. doesn't feel like scum

[WestCoastDidds]

LaLi, how are you and how are things in your part of the world?

[LaLight]

LaLi, how are you and how are things in your part of the world?

for the last couple of weeks I managed to crawl out of depression that was eating me for months and now I am quite resourseful!

[LaLight]

it is pretty surprising for me that I am able to follow this game, although still can't wrap my head around redirectors shenanigans

[LaLight]

as for my part of the world, you know, Russia being Russia and all

[cayvie]

with ~28 hours till deadline, here's how i'm feeling about potential d2 lynches

top pix: ari, glooble, pubby
who even knows anymore, i can convince myself of any alignment: raerae
my only townread: joseph

[cayvie]

yeah a reread of joseph confirmed my townread toward him.

Only 1 death last night, that's fewer than I expected from a BM game

I'm kind of wondering about the bastard nature of this game. Everything seems pretty tame so far, right?

I had a setup theory but it's been disproved

he later clarifies that his theory was "oops all redirectors" and i believe him; that was my thought seeing the awa flip too. and he said this before anyone else claimed redirector.

[WestCoastDidds]

LaLi, how are you and how are things in your part of the world?

for the last couple of weeks I managed to crawl out of depression that was eating me for months and now I am quite resourseful!

Good for you...there is nothing easy about coming out from under, but we are sure glad that you did!  I have this impression of Russia being cold and dark in the winter, so if that is accurate, you deserve even more credit for making it through!

[WestCoastDidds]

Mail-mi, can you please do a vote count for us?

[mail-mi]

Vote Count 2.3

Joseph2302 (2): LaLight, shraeye
raerae (2): pubby, Glooble
pubby (1): Joseph2302
arishipshape (3): raerae, cayvie, WestCoastDidds
Glooble (1): MiX

Not Voting (1): arishipshape

With 10 alive it takes 6 to lynch.

Day 2 ends at 2:00pm FT on February 21, 2020.

[raerae]

LaLi, how are you and how are things in your part of the world?

for the last couple of weeks I managed to crawl out of depression that was eating me for months and now I am quite resourseful!

Fabulous work! Keep it up and we got your back

[arishipshape]

Ok, I’ll claim.
I am a town redirector, I redirected Glooble to Raerae.

[cayvie]

Ok, I’ll claim.
I am a town redirector, I redirected Glooble to Raerae.

haha why not.

so... since you were redirected to raerae, then it sounds like you would have wound up redirecting raerae to raerae?

[cayvie]

so if i'm doing this right, if all the redirector claims are true, we wind up with raerae targeting both herself and you.

LaLight, shraeye, does this info give you any insights into anything?

[MiX]

Ok, I’ll claim.
I am a town redirector, I redirected Glooble to Raerae.

haha why not.

so... since you were redirected to raerae, then it sounds like you would have wound up redirecting raerae to raerae?

Actually, since redirectors are like simultaneous and random...we have to backtrack.

cayvie redirected raerae to ari
Joseph redirected Didds to ari
Didds redirected pubby to raerae
ari redirected Glooble to raerae

And at this point I forgot what happens first...cayvie, you have these questions in your QT, tell me what wouild happen if everyone's telling the truth.

[Glooble]

If I am also a town redirector (not saying I am, not saying I'm not) would it be helpful at this point for me to claim my targets so we can try and piece together the chain and find Galz's real killer?

[MiX]

If I am also a town redirector (not saying I am, not saying I'm not) would it be helpful at this point for me to claim my targets so we can try and piece together the chain and find Galz's real killer?

I do not know, but if you redirected someone to Galzria, probably, yes. Otherwise I can't see how useful it is.

[Glooble]

How useful is any of this, given that there's almost certainly someone lying?

[cayvie]

Ok, I’ll claim.
I am a town redirector, I redirected Glooble to Raerae.

haha why not.

so... since you were redirected to raerae, then it sounds like you would have wound up redirecting raerae to raerae?

Actually, since redirectors are like simultaneous and random...we have to backtrack.

cayvie redirected raerae to ari
Joseph redirected Didds to ari
Didds redirected pubby to raerae
ari redirected Glooble to raerae

And at this point I forgot what happens first...cayvie, you have these questions in your QT, tell me what wouild happen if everyone's telling the truth.

i don't think there's any contradictions here; you resolve Joseph and Myself first, as we weren't redirected or redirectees. Which means raerae gets redirected to ari and Didds's orders become "redirect ari to raerae".

then Didds gets resolved (since ari is still a redirect target), so ari's orders become "redirect raerae to raerae"

which means that raerae gets double redirected, to herself and to ari.

i did get verification that redirector orders can wind up being "redirect someone to themselves", even though we aren't allowed to submit those as orders initially. mail-mi declined to clarify how that resolves.

[cayvie]

PS im doing these complicated logic puzzles with a fever of 102 so uh there may be some errors.

How useful is any of this, given that there's almost certainly someone lying?

idk tbh; it's certainly fun for me, tho i don't know about anyone else XD

[Joseph2302]

Getting lots more redirector claims all of a sudden. Not super convinced about ari's sudden claim, or Glooble's sudden hypothetical situation

[raerae]

We also don't know in what order redirectors were processed so can we work this out or not?

[cayvie]

We also don't know in what order redirectors were processed so can we work this out or not?

i mean mail-mi has said in this thread what order redirectors are processed.

Redirectors are resolved one at a time, starting with those that are not effected by any other redirector.

it's possible for there to be redirector claimed actions that would necessitate some form of randomness (e.g., if every redirector has been targeted by another redirector), but so far, that hasn't been the case.

[MiX]

We also don't know in what order redirectors were processed so can we work this out or not?

I think cayvie's order of events sounds good. Not that I doublechecked, her conclusion was basically that you picked yourself and ari...hmm...is that possible?