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Re: BM28: Joth's Bed Idea Mafia
« Reply #375 on: December 05, 2019, 12:47:36 am »

Vote: swan

Like I said before, the only valuable VCA to be gained from the lynch is what you believe Glooble’s alignment to be. Did scum care who amongst Mail-Mi/Glooble got lynched, or no?

If Glooble is town, scum literally did not care who got lynched. Swan’s unvote came on a Holiday, less than 24 hours from deadline, and allowed him to be associated with neither wagon, so that if either flipped he had no responsibility to the lynch.

If Glooble is scum, it’s especially notable that Swan unvoted instead of moving to the only other viable wagon when deadline was crunching down. He didn’t increase any potential threat against Glooble, but allowed himself the opportunity to jump back to mail-mi if needed. Why unvote at all? For the same reason as Glooble being town - it disassociated him with what he would’ve presumed to be a Town wagon when, given the holiday, the lynch was mostly inevitable anyway.
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Re: BM28: Joth's Bed Idea Mafia
« Reply #376 on: December 05, 2019, 02:35:42 am »

We started at "generally" but now we're talking about the very specific action of unvoting?

We started at the very specific action of unvoting:

So wouldn't scum be less likely to unvote?
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Re: BM28: Joth's Bed Idea Mafia
« Reply #377 on: December 05, 2019, 02:47:25 am »

But town generally cares less about what looks or doesn't look townie.

I don't think that's true.
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Re: BM28: Joth's Bed Idea Mafia
« Reply #378 on: December 05, 2019, 02:52:51 am »

But town generally cares less about what looks or doesn't look townie.

I don't think that's true.

That is not where we started.
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Re: BM28: Joth's Bed Idea Mafia
« Reply #379 on: December 05, 2019, 05:04:47 am »

I didn't "sit on mail-mi". I was voting for Glooble and I moved back to mail-mi after Glooble's claim.

Sit on as it were, for terms of this use, is after i un voted. I should use better verbiage though - i am not claiming you were there a long time - just during a certain time.

After you unvoted, there was exactly one viable lynch and it was mail-mi. Your unvote served no purpose whatsoever.

This is accurate. Swan's points are all ONLY about the end of day 1 and I think that's just scum behavior from Swan.

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Re: BM28: Joth's Bed Idea Mafia
« Reply #380 on: December 05, 2019, 09:01:25 am »

Vote: MiX

Those are some ginned up charges to vote for Swan. I don’t know yet what I think of Swan, but skewering him for only talking about the end of D1 when he was engaged in a discussion about the unvote
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Re: BM28: Joth's Bed Idea Mafia
« Reply #381 on: December 05, 2019, 09:20:02 am »

Vote: MiX

Those are some ginned up charges to vote for Swan. I don’t know yet what I think of Swan, but skewering him for only talking about the end of D1 when he was engaged in a discussion about the unvote

Is scummy? Is that the end of that sentence? I feel like there's much, much more to talk about than Swan's unvote (like Galzria and shraeye wagon) but he only focused on the unvote. Feels wrong and out of character for Swan. Also doesn't help that I barely understood his wall post, and that Awaclus is making sense.
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Re: BM28: Joth's Bed Idea Mafia
« Reply #382 on: December 05, 2019, 09:24:06 am »

"What if, just to get some of that murder excitement going again, we had another lynching today?" one townie asks hopefully.

"Let's just check in with Tony, the town ethicist! Tony, is it ethical to kill somebody for no real reason, as long as a majority agrees to it?"

"I have to be honest with you guys. I never really went to school for ethics. I'm a total fraud. But I say 'YES!'"

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MiX (3): Jimmmmm, raerae, WestCoastDidds (L-2)
DatSwan (3): Awaclus, Galzria, MiX (L-2)
Awaclus (2): DatSwan, Glooble (L-3)

Not voting (1): shraeye


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Re: BM28: Joth's Bed Idea Mafia
« Reply #383 on: December 05, 2019, 09:56:41 am »

Vote: MiX

Those are some ginned up charges to vote for Swan. I don’t know yet what I think of Swan, but skewering him for only talking about the end of D1 when he was engaged in a discussion about the unvote seems off to me.

Is scummy? Is that the end of that sentence? I feel like there's much, much more to talk about than Swan's unvote (like Galzria and shraeye wagon) but he only focused on the unvote. Feels wrong and out of character for Swan. Also doesn't help that I barely understood his wall post, and that Awaclus is making sense.

Sorry...it’s early and coffee. I corrected above...seems off to me.

Awaclus is making sense, but I don’t see it as a forced choice. Your reason for voting is different than Galz (who I don’t trust one bit) so it feels manufactured.
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Re: BM28: Joth's Bed Idea Mafia
« Reply #384 on: December 05, 2019, 09:59:20 am »

Vote: MiX

Those are some ginned up charges to vote for Swan. I don’t know yet what I think of Swan, but skewering him for only talking about the end of D1 when he was engaged in a discussion about the unvote seems off to me.

Is scummy? Is that the end of that sentence? I feel like there's much, much more to talk about than Swan's unvote (like Galzria and shraeye wagon) but he only focused on the unvote. Feels wrong and out of character for Swan. Also doesn't help that I barely understood his wall post, and that Awaclus is making sense.

Sorry...it’s early and coffee. I corrected above...seems off to me.

Awaclus is making sense, but I don’t see it as a forced choice. Your reason for voting is different than Galz (who I don’t trust one bit) so it feels manufactured.

I was going to vote Swan before seeing his vote, really. But what does that have to do with anything?
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Re: BM28: Joth's Bed Idea Mafia
« Reply #385 on: December 05, 2019, 10:10:42 am »

I don’t understand your question. What does what have to do with anything?
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Re: BM28: Joth's Bed Idea Mafia
« Reply #386 on: December 05, 2019, 10:12:44 am »

Also, last day of the semester!  Yahooooooo!!!

Join me, friends, in doing the dance of almost done! Almost done! Almost done! Almost done!

(Help me remember this moment of joy next week when I am in the seal the of doom known as grading....)
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« Reply #387 on: December 05, 2019, 10:16:00 am »

Also, last day of the semester!  Yahooooooo!!!

Join me, friends, in doing the dance of almost done! Almost done! Almost done! Almost done!

(Help me remember this moment of joy next week when I am in the seal the of doom known as grading....)

On a thursday???

I don’t understand your question. What does what have to do with anything?

What does Galz's reason for voting have to do with my own?
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Re: BM28: Joth's Bed Idea Mafia
« Reply #388 on: December 05, 2019, 11:02:24 am »

Yes, a Thursday....because I don’t teach on Fridays!  So, I’m done! The semester actually ends tomorrow, but for all intents and purposes it’s over for me later today.

Ah, you’re right. Galz’s vote didn’t have anything to do with yours. They were just proximate to one another.

Shraeye, are you doing the dance if done yet? Mail-mi, I hope the end of the semester is treating you kindly, too.  MiX, are you a student? If so, then same good hopes!
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Re: BM28: Joth's Bed Idea Mafia
« Reply #389 on: December 05, 2019, 11:25:02 am »

Er...I forgot you were a teacher. Or your relative age to me. Debatepro always acts like a child...

Yes I am a student, and overall this semester's going well. Not much else to add.


Can you expand on what you thought about the relation between mine and Galz's votes?
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Re: BM28: Joth's Bed Idea Mafia
« Reply #390 on: December 05, 2019, 11:57:00 am »

Um, yeah...insulting my spouse isn’t really cool at all and serves no purpose.

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Re: BM28: Joth's Bed Idea Mafia
« Reply #391 on: December 05, 2019, 12:44:49 pm »

Um, yeah...insulting my spouse isn’t really cool at all and serves no purpose.

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Wasn't meant to be an insult...sorry.
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Re: BM28: Joth's Bed Idea Mafia
« Reply #392 on: December 05, 2019, 12:51:29 pm »

Um, yeah...insulting my spouse isn’t really cool at all and serves no purpose.

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Wasn't meant to be an insult...sorry.

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Re: BM28: Joth's Bed Idea Mafia
« Reply #393 on: December 05, 2019, 12:54:16 pm »

WestCoastDidds is a sextuple voter. MiX has been lynched.


...just kidding, he's fine, Didds only has one vote.
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Re: BM28: Joth's Bed Idea Mafia
« Reply #394 on: December 05, 2019, 01:25:29 pm »

WestCoastDidds is a sextuple voter. MiX has been lynched.


...just kidding, he's fine, Didds only has one vote.

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Re: BM28: Joth's Bed Idea Mafia
« Reply #395 on: December 05, 2019, 03:00:24 pm »

Um, yeah...insulting my spouse isn’t really cool at all and serves no purpose.

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Wasn't meant to be an insult...sorry.

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Re: BM28: Joth's Bed Idea Mafia
« Reply #396 on: December 05, 2019, 04:40:29 pm »

Yes I am a student, and overall this semester's going well. Not much else to add.

Can you expand on what you thought about the relation between mine and Galz's votes?

Good luck on your exams, and I hope the break is restful. Do you get several weeks off and then start a new semester in January?

When I got to the page I read Galz’s vote for Swan, then there are some Awa posts and then your vote for Swan. So, I read them within a few seconds of each other so in my kind you were following him. So, when I started to write my post, I looked back and saw that you weren’t following because you had different reasons, but I thought your reasons felt ginned up.

Is that more clear?
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« Reply #397 on: December 05, 2019, 05:00:10 pm »

Yes I am a student, and overall this semester's going well. Not much else to add.

Can you expand on what you thought about the relation between mine and Galz's votes?

Good luck on your exams, and I hope the break is restful. Do you get several weeks off and then start a new semester in January?

When I got to the page I read Galz’s vote for Swan, then there are some Awa posts and then your vote for Swan. So, I read them within a few seconds of each other so in my kind you were following him. So, when I started to write my post, I looked back and saw that you weren’t following because you had different reasons, but I thought your reasons felt ginned up.

Is that more clear?

The semester only starts in February, so I get a looooot of free time. It's awesome.

Okay that makes sense, I understand that.
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Re: BM28: Joth's Bed Idea Mafia
« Reply #398 on: December 05, 2019, 05:33:31 pm »

Wow...that is a super long break.  Do you have any fun plans?
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Re: BM28: Joth's Bed Idea Mafia
« Reply #399 on: December 05, 2019, 06:24:36 pm »

Vote: swan

Like I said before, the only valuable VCA to be gained from the lynch is what you believe Glooble’s alignment to be. Did scum care who amongst Mail-Mi/Glooble got lynched, or no?

If Glooble is town, scum literally did not care who got lynched. Swan’s unvote came on a Holiday, less than 24 hours from deadline, and allowed him to be associated with neither wagon, so that if either flipped he had no responsibility to the lynch.

If Glooble is scum, it’s especially notable that Swan unvoted instead of moving to the only other viable wagon when deadline was crunching down. He didn’t increase any potential threat against Glooble, but allowed himself the opportunity to jump back to mail-mi if needed. Why unvote at all? For the same reason as Glooble being town - it disassociated him with what he would’ve presumed to be a Town wagon when, given the holiday, the lynch was mostly inevitable anyway.


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1) not skum so not trying to disassociate myself.
2) I would of (by un-voting) put myself in the "only person not voting wagon", which according to your logic I should of been very worried about.
3) To answer your question - I unvoted to see who else would vote there. Mail- Mi being skum that did not know other skum, combined with there being no NK kind of messed with the game plan tho.
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