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[faust]

ANd yeah, faust lying is a possibility, I for some reason didn't think of

I can't really be other scum though... I mean look at the way Galzria claimed his result. No info on what. If I was other scum fakeclaiming Alien, I would have no idea whether that even fits with Galzria's result. Also I can't properly lie about the Vanillaising since noone but the Aliens (and whoever got vanillaised) knew it was in the game.

[Joseph2302]

I'm glad you shot Glooble then, IMO means that not everyone thinks this.

I didn't shoot anyone
If I'd been able to shoot anyone, then probably would have been faust

But he discarded scum so he's town right???

Why would you want to kill town as SK?

I'm not an SK

[MiX]

Oh...

[Brightgalrs]

Why cult suddenly? Galz wouldn't suspect faust based on a vanilla cop result.

Alien*

Why would he be Vanilla Cop?

My mistake, I was under the impression that the Bloodhound was a "perfect" cop, giving the investigated player's exact alignment, and that the Vanilla Cop gave Town/Not-Town results. Instead, Bloodhound gives Town/Not-Town and Vanilla Cop tells them if the player is a vanilla townie/mafia goon/werewolf goon.

[A Drowned Kernel]

Does the vanilla-ised person know they're now vanilla-ised?

I'm assuming yes otherwise faust's claim makes no sense.

Do Vanilla'd players know they're vanilla?

Yes

[Joseph2302]

Oh...

I said this at least once D1, so not sure why it's so surprising

PPE: 1

[MiX]

Oh...

I said this at least once D1, so not sure why it's so surprising

PPE: 1

You did? I forgot.

Does the vanilla-ised person know they're now vanilla-ised?

I'm assuming yes otherwise faust's claim makes no sense.

Do Vanilla'd players know they're vanilla?

Yes

That's nice.

[Joseph2302]

Does the vanilla-ised person know they're now vanilla-ised?

I'm assuming yes otherwise faust's claim makes no sense.

Do Vanilla'd players know they're vanilla?

Yes

Okay so someone should be able to verify faust then
Unless of course that person doesn't want to, because they aren't town

[Brightgalrs]

Yes

Okay, so we have a lynch target for today. Someone got vanilla-ized and didn't feel that that was worth mentioning. My guess is it was someone who posted before faust roleclaimed, and thought that staying silent would be better than admiting to it.

faust, please spill the beans. Again, you'd be saving your skin for today.

[MiX]

Yes

Okay, so we have a lynch target for today. Someone got vanilla-ized and didn't feel that that was worth mentioning. My guess is it was someone who posted before faust roleclaimed, and thought that staying silent would be better than admiting to it.

faust, please spill the beans. Again, you'd be saving your skin for today.

Wait why would scum hide it more than town? So we lynch faust instead? Hmm I like it. Of course then faust could just name a poor sap that wasn't vanilla'd and is scumreading his partner or something. But that backfires super hard.

Vote: raerae, Joseph is town.

[Brightgalrs]

Wait why would scum hide it more than town? So we lynch faust instead? Hmm I like it. Of course then faust could just name a poor sap that wasn't vanilla'd and is scumreading his partner or something. But that backfires super hard.

If the Vanillia-ized player was scum, they wouldn't to volunteer any information to the town. Think back to before faust claimed, we didn't even know if there were Aliens in this game. Hiding that type of information from the public sows confusion, makes decision making worse.

And then even if they did say that they were vanilla-ized, that elicits a roleclaim from that. As I've said before, if you're vanilla-ized and town then you're no longer a power role, why not claim?

Also keep in mind that this line of thought is a no brainer. From a vanilla-ized scum's perspective there's no way an Alien would claim today and confirm that someone was vanilla-ized last night. Might as well keep the information to yourself.

[raerae]

I'm glad you shot Glooble then, IMO means that not everyone thinks this.

I didn't shoot anyone
If I'd been able to shoot anyone, then probably would have been faust

But he discarded scum so he's town right???

Why would you want to kill town as SK?

This isn't even logic. By this premise you should assume everybody who discarded town picked scum.

[raerae]

Yes

Okay, so we have a lynch target for today. Someone got vanilla-ized and didn't feel that that was worth mentioning. My guess is it was someone who posted before faust roleclaimed, and thought that staying silent would be better than admiting to it.

faust, please spill the beans. Again, you'd be saving your skin for today.

Wait why would scum hide it more than town? So we lynch faust instead? Hmm I like it. Of course then faust could just name a poor sap that wasn't vanilla'd and is scumreading his partner or something. But that backfires super hard.

Vote: raerae, Joseph is town.

You're clearly signaling something, this is the third (?) time you've voted for me with no explanation and the text of your post not even tangentially being related to be.

MiX needs to claim.

[Uncleeurope]

I am pretty sure he made the reason clear. I at least have an idea.

[MiX]

Wait why would scum hide it more than town? So we lynch faust instead? Hmm I like it. Of course then faust could just name a poor sap that wasn't vanilla'd and is scumreading his partner or something. But that backfires super hard.

If the Vanillia-ized player was scum, they wouldn't to volunteer any information to the town. Think back to before faust claimed, we didn't even know if there were Aliens in this game. Hiding that type of information from the public sows confusion, makes decision making worse.

And then even if they did say that they were vanilla-ized, that elicits a roleclaim from that. As I've said before, if you're vanilla-ized and town then you're no longer a power role, why not claim?

Also keep in mind that this line of thought is a no brainer. From a vanilla-ized scum's perspective there's no way an Alien would claim today and confirm that someone was vanilla-ized last night. Might as well keep the information to yourself.

It's weird to not claim AFTER faust says it, is kinda my point. As town or scum, really. But was it obviously good to claim it? Is it obvious now? I mean, I can see town not say it to try and get NKd...

I'm glad you shot Glooble then, IMO means that not everyone thinks this.

I didn't shoot anyone
If I'd been able to shoot anyone, then probably would have been faust

But he discarded scum so he's town right???

Why would you want to kill town as SK?

This isn't even logic. By this premise you should assume everybody who discarded town picked scum.

I was following Joseph's own logic.

PPE: I'm sheeping faust. Confirmed not alien to me.

[raerae]

I am pretty sure he made the reason clear. I at least have an idea.

Then help a sister out because I haven't seen it.

[Uncleeurope]

I am pretty sure he made the reason clear. I at least have an idea.

Then help a sister out because I haven't seen it.

Well, if anything I might feed a justifiable reason to scum, I like letting people answer questions for themselves.

[raerae]

I am pretty sure he made the reason clear. I at least have an idea.

And on top of that there were no other votes or unvotes between his votes for me.

I am pretty sure he made the reason clear. I at least have an idea.

Then help a sister out because I haven't seen it.

Well, if anything I might feed a justifiable reason to scum, I like letting people answer questions for themselves.

Then why even chime in?

[Uncleeurope]

Seems about right that MiX would sheep Faust no matter what.

Respectable.

[MiX]

I am pretty sure he made the reason clear. I at least have an idea.

And on top of that there were no other votes or unvotes between his votes for me.

I am pretty sure he made the reason clear. I at least have an idea.

Then help a sister out because I haven't seen it.

Well, if anything I might feed a justifiable reason to scum, I like letting people answer questions for themselves.

Then why even chime in?

You know me, I vote around. Treat it as a singular vote, should make muuuch more sense.

Raerae are you town?

[Uncleeurope]

I am pretty sure he made the reason clear. I at least have an idea.

And on top of that there were no other votes or unvotes between his votes for me.

I am pretty sure he made the reason clear. I at least have an idea.

Then help a sister out because I haven't seen it.

Well, if anything I might feed a justifiable reason to scum, I like letting people answer questions for themselves.

Then why even chime in?

I was just saying it made sense to me. *shrugs*

I guess I just won’t say anything next time.

[MiX]

I am pretty sure he made the reason clear. I at least have an idea.

And on top of that there were no other votes or unvotes between his votes for me.

I am pretty sure he made the reason clear. I at least have an idea.

Then help a sister out because I haven't seen it.

Well, if anything I might feed a justifiable reason to scum, I like letting people answer questions for themselves.

Then why even chime in?

I was just saying it made sense to me. *shrugs*

I guess I just won’t say anything next time.

Who's scum? Gimme your reads and get an unconditional townread back.

[Brightgalrs]

It's weird to not claim AFTER faust says it, is kinda my point. As town or scum, really. But was it obviously good to claim it? Is it obvious now? I mean, I can see town not say it to try and get NKd...

It's also weird to not claim after faust says it as well, yeah.

I only looked at it from a vanilla-ized scum's perspective. But imagine you're a town player that was vanilla-ized last night. That information confirms that the Alien faction is active in this game. You'd want to tell everyone, wouldn't you? And it'd definitely be in your first post, ie. way before faust had a chance to tell us what was going on.

[raerae]

I am pretty sure he made the reason clear. I at least have an idea.

And on top of that there were no other votes or unvotes between his votes for me.

I am pretty sure he made the reason clear. I at least have an idea.

Then help a sister out because I haven't seen it.

Well, if anything I might feed a justifiable reason to scum, I like letting people answer questions for themselves.

Then why even chime in?

I was just saying it made sense to me. *shrugs*

I guess I just won’t say anything next time.

Just expected more out of you with that first comment. Didn't intend to be so snippy, my apologies.

[raerae]

I am pretty sure he made the reason clear. I at least have an idea.

And on top of that there were no other votes or unvotes between his votes for me.

I am pretty sure he made the reason clear. I at least have an idea.

Then help a sister out because I haven't seen it.

Well, if anything I might feed a justifiable reason to scum, I like letting people answer questions for themselves.

Then why even chime in?

You know me, I vote around. Treat it as a singular vote, should make muuuch more sense.

Raerae are you town?

You do vote around, just not usually for the same person multiple times in a row. You should claim.

Obviously.