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Re: BM27: Bad Idea Mafia (Day Two)
« Reply #725 on: November 20, 2019, 10:47:48 am »

Neither. I don't think they'd necessarily SK, but I don't think they'd town-aligned.
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Re: BM27: Bad Idea Mafia (Day Two)
« Reply #726 on: November 20, 2019, 10:48:19 am »

@brightgalrs, sorry if I missed it, what is your previous mafia experience? You seem very experienced.
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Re: BM27: Bad Idea Mafia (Day Two)
« Reply #727 on: November 20, 2019, 10:55:23 am »

Why should I claim?

Because you seem to have tied yourself to faust, claimed scum that you seem resistant to lunching for some reason.

It's boring predictable and what we are going to end up doing. Might as well find other scum while you're at it. Like you.

Yeah, lunching scum is the absolute worst part of this game.
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Re: BM27: Bad Idea Mafia (Day Two)
« Reply #728 on: November 20, 2019, 10:59:19 am »

Why should I claim?

Because you seem to have tied yourself to faust, claimed scum that you seem resistant to lunching for some reason.

It's boring predictable and what we are going to end up doing. Might as well find other scum while you're at it. Like you.

Yeah, lunching scum is the absolute worst part of this game.

I mean, end of the day, we have a claimed scum who has claimed to still be able to kill. The fact that he A) May himself have a different PR than he’s implied he has, and B) hasn’t been confirmed to be what he claims at all... is just all the more reason to finish the lunch there.
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Faust has also been incredibly stubborn this game. In other news, it's hot in the summer, and water falls from the sky when it rains.


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TOWN Wins: M3, M5, M6, M11, M17, M28, M32, M105, M108, M114, M118, M120, M122, DM1, DoM1, OZ2, RM45, RM47, RM48, RM49, RM55
TOWN Losses: M4, M7, M8, M9, M13, M14, M18, M31, M110, M111, M113, M117, M125, RM3, RM4, RM54
SCUM Wins: M2, M19, M23, M100, DM3, RM1, RM2, RM48, RM50
SCUM Losses: M15 (SK), M102 (Tr), OZ1, RM55

Total Wins: 30
Total Losses: 20

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Re: BM27: Bad Idea Mafia (Day Two)
« Reply #729 on: November 20, 2019, 11:02:48 am »

@brightgalrs, sorry if I missed it, what is your previous mafia experience? You seem very experienced.
I played mafia more than 5 years ago on the Heaven Games forums. This is my first game since then.
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Re: BM27: Bad Idea Mafia (Day Two)
« Reply #730 on: November 20, 2019, 11:07:00 am »

Why should I claim?

Because you seem to have tied yourself to faust, claimed scum that you seem resistant to lunching for some reason.

It's boring predictable and what we are going to end up doing. Might as well find other scum while you're at it. Like you.

Yeah, lunching scum is the absolute worst part of this game.

I mean, end of the day, we have a claimed scum who has claimed to still be able to kill. The fact that he A) May himself have a different PR than he’s implied he has, and B) hasn’t been confirmed to be what he claims at all... is just all the more reason to finish the lunch there.

Soooooo we agree? Or did I miss another scum claim?
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Re: BM27: Bad Idea Mafia (Day Two)
« Reply #731 on: November 20, 2019, 11:08:07 am »

Faust should claim their target. I agree with reasoning that town!target would have claimed by now.
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Re: BM27: Bad Idea Mafia (Day Two)
« Reply #732 on: November 20, 2019, 11:09:55 am »

Why should I claim?

Because you seem to have tied yourself to faust, claimed scum that you seem resistant to lunching for some reason.

It's boring predictable and what we are going to end up doing. Might as well find other scum while you're at it. Like you.

Yeah, lunching scum is the absolute worst part of this game.

I mean, end of the day, we have a claimed scum who has claimed to still be able to kill. The fact that he A) May himself have a different PR than he’s implied he has, and B) hasn’t been confirmed to be what he claims at all... is just all the more reason to finish the lunch there.

Soooooo we agree? Or did I miss another scum claim?

Oh, sorry, yeah - didn’t mean for it to come across like I was disagreeing.
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TOWN Wins: M3, M5, M6, M11, M17, M28, M32, M105, M108, M114, M118, M120, M122, DM1, DoM1, OZ2, RM45, RM47, RM48, RM49, RM55
TOWN Losses: M4, M7, M8, M9, M13, M14, M18, M31, M110, M111, M113, M117, M125, RM3, RM4, RM54
SCUM Wins: M2, M19, M23, M100, DM3, RM1, RM2, RM48, RM50
SCUM Losses: M15 (SK), M102 (Tr), OZ1, RM55

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Re: BM27: Bad Idea Mafia (Day Two)
« Reply #733 on: November 20, 2019, 11:16:51 am »

Faust should claim their target. I agree with reasoning that town!target would have claimed by now.
Alright. Well, it was DatSwan.
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Re: BM27: Bad Idea Mafia (Day Two)
« Reply #734 on: November 20, 2019, 11:17:34 am »

Why should I claim?

Because you seem to have tied yourself to faust, claimed scum that you seem resistant to lunching for some reason.

It's boring predictable and what we are going to end up doing. Might as well find other scum while you're at it. Like you.

Yeah, lunching scum is the absolute worst part of this game.

I mean, end of the day, we have a claimed scum who has claimed to still be able to kill. The fact that he A) May himself have a different PR than he’s implied he has, and B) hasn’t been confirmed to be what he claims at all... is just all the more reason to finish the lunch there.

Let's see if I can knock sense into town:  THERE ARE FOUR SCUM TEAMS. Since 4 NKs + alien. So now let's see which we would rather kill:

- Mafia, which has more members than werewolf and are set to win on average

- Werewolf, which might only have 2 members now so it's easier to eradicate that NK

- SK, which, if killed, removes an NK

- Alien, which only kills to win, basically

Which of these is our priority? The answer is literally any of the above 3. If we stand around killing alien then scum kills everyone.

Faust should claim their target. I agree with reasoning that town!target would have claimed by now.
Alright. Well, it was DatSwan.

Vote: Swan
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Re: BM27: Bad Idea Mafia (Day Two)
« Reply #735 on: November 20, 2019, 11:21:59 am »

Vote: Swan
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Re: BM27: Bad Idea Mafia (Day Two)
« Reply #736 on: November 20, 2019, 11:22:38 am »

Why should I claim?

Because you seem to have tied yourself to faust, claimed scum that you seem resistant to lunching for some reason.

It's boring predictable and what we are going to end up doing. Might as well find other scum while you're at it. Like you.

Yeah, lunching scum is the absolute worst part of this game.

I mean, end of the day, we have a claimed scum who has claimed to still be able to kill. The fact that he A) May himself have a different PR than he’s implied he has, and B) hasn’t been confirmed to be what he claims at all... is just all the more reason to finish the lunch there.

Let's see if I can knock sense into town:  THERE ARE FOUR SCUM TEAMS. Since 4 NKs + alien. So now let's see which we would rather kill:

- Mafia, which has more members than werewolf and are set to win on average

- Werewolf, which might only have 2 members now so it's easier to eradicate that NK

- SK, which, if killed, removes an NK

- Alien, which only kills to win, basically

Which of these is our priority? The answer is literally any of the above 3. If we stand around killing alien then scum kills everyone.

Faust should claim their target. I agree with reasoning that town!target would have claimed by now.
Alright. Well, it was DatSwan.

Vote: Swan
Agree with the above. And I don't believe that DatSwan is town, so they'll be one of those many other factions
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Re: BM27: Bad Idea Mafia (Day Two)
« Reply #737 on: November 20, 2019, 11:27:28 am »

Faust should claim their target. I agree with reasoning that town!target would have claimed by now.
Alright. Well, it was DatSwan.

Vote: DatSwan
Gonna need a roleclaim.

This was the only post he did today, it was after faust claimed:
all right. holy hell that is a lot of catch up for one day...

Extreme Summary:

1) Faust pushed for WW hunting and Mafia hunting prior to being outted by Galz. Combine that with the Galz "PR Reasons" and Faust out and claiming Alien... Faust is probably an Alien. That being said, they could just as easily be another Alien knowing that they have a Vanillaiser... or supposedly they could be making a ballzy play and claiming a PR that is not mentioned knowing that if the Alien Vanillaiser exists they wouldn't speak up - However, I find that last part essentially impossible in reality.

2) Bright is probably Town Vig. It could be a double SK think, followed by the extremely unlikely concept that Alien faction could of fired their only shot on Night 1.... but most likely Bright is Town Vig.


I believe Galz got a result on Faust. And I believe that Faust is what they claim to be. I am a little wary based on how quickly Faust came to claim... but in the end, that factor is a little irrelevant if Faust is NOT Town. Also, since I am pretty sure the Vanillaiser role is not one shot... by leaving faust alive, it just allows him to VT more players... which I guess could be good in the right setting, but also could be extremely unfortunate...

Unless someone has a sound result of evidence on someone else that is skum, I see no reason to not lynch faust today.

Vote: Faust
There's a few things to say about it, but let's let him claim and explain first.
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Re: BM27: Bad Idea Mafia (Day Two)
« Reply #738 on: November 20, 2019, 11:28:45 am »

Vote: Swan
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Re: BM27: Bad Idea Mafia (Day Two)
« Reply #739 on: November 20, 2019, 11:31:49 am »

We're at 5 for Swan it looks likes.

e voted for him earlier in the day:
Aliens!

Fun.

Also, Galzria voting faust for PR reasons and faust turning up alien is actually a pretty credible claim to being town, so I suppose I will have to just go and switch up my vote

vote: Datswan
Quite interesting, but maybe a coincidence.
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Re: BM27: Bad Idea Mafia (Day Two)
« Reply #740 on: November 20, 2019, 11:34:13 am »

Good enough for me
Shoot: Swan
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Re: BM27: Bad Idea Mafia (Day Two)
« Reply #741 on: November 20, 2019, 11:34:18 am »

Scum has zero incentive to do our work for us. This is ridiculous. Kill the claimed scum!
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Re: BM27: Bad Idea Mafia (Day Two)
« Reply #742 on: November 20, 2019, 11:41:21 am »

Scum has zero incentive to do our work for us. This is ridiculous. Kill the claimed scum!

This.

MiX is dead wrong. You kill scum that can kill when you have the chance. Absolutely 0 part of Faust’s claim is verified. All the other scum factions are going to be hunting for each other at this point, not Town. They’re their own greatest threats to themselves. You absolutely never ever let a claimed killing scum live when given the chance to lynch them.
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Mafia Record:
TOWN Wins: M3, M5, M6, M11, M17, M28, M32, M105, M108, M114, M118, M120, M122, DM1, DoM1, OZ2, RM45, RM47, RM48, RM49, RM55
TOWN Losses: M4, M7, M8, M9, M13, M14, M18, M31, M110, M111, M113, M117, M125, RM3, RM4, RM54
SCUM Wins: M2, M19, M23, M100, DM3, RM1, RM2, RM48, RM50
SCUM Losses: M15 (SK), M102 (Tr), OZ1, RM55

Total Wins: 30
Total Losses: 20

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Re: BM27: Bad Idea Mafia (Day Two)
« Reply #743 on: November 20, 2019, 11:42:51 am »

vote: faust
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Re: BM27: Bad Idea Mafia (Day Two)
« Reply #744 on: November 20, 2019, 11:45:49 am »

Scum has zero incentive to do our work for us. This is ridiculous. Kill the claimed scum!

This.

MiX is dead wrong. You kill scum that can kill when you have the chance. Absolutely 0 part of Faust’s claim is verified. All the other scum factions are going to be hunting for each other at this point, not Town. They’re their own greatest threats to themselves. You absolutely never ever let a claimed killing scum live when given the chance to lynch them.

Then town dies to collateral damage. It's not a feasible plan to kill aliens for the sake of it. If scum's so scared of faust they'll shoot him. Besides we should help scum develop scumreads on each other, which goes hand in hand with playing the day beyond the low hanging fruit.

Deadline's like a week away, explore this first, then decide if the other lynch candidates are so towny you'd rather kill faust.
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Re: BM27: Bad Idea Mafia (Day Two)
« Reply #745 on: November 20, 2019, 11:48:31 am »

Scum has zero incentive to do our work for us. This is ridiculous. Kill the claimed scum!

This.

MiX is dead wrong. You kill scum that can kill when you have the chance. Absolutely 0 part of Faust’s claim is verified. All the other scum factions are going to be hunting for each other at this point, not Town. They’re their own greatest threats to themselves. You absolutely never ever let a claimed killing scum live when given the chance to lynch them.
It seems very unlikely that faust is fakeclaiming his role. I want to hear from DatSwan before deciding who to vote for. Chances are they are both scum that can kill. faust can only kill once. Scum!Swan would be able to kill every night.
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Re: BM27: Bad Idea Mafia (Day Two)
« Reply #746 on: November 20, 2019, 11:49:45 am »

We're at 5 for Swan it looks likes.
This makes it look like I'm counting down to a lynch, it's the other way around. We shouldn't be lynching anyone for at least another two RL days, still lots to discuss.
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Re: BM27: Bad Idea Mafia (Day Two)
« Reply #747 on: November 20, 2019, 11:51:28 am »

We're at 5 for Swan it looks likes.
This makes it look like I'm counting down to a lynch, it's the other way around. We shouldn't be lynching anyone for at least another two RL days, still lots to discuss.

Slow down scum...

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Re: BM27: Bad Idea Mafia (Day Two)
« Reply #748 on: November 20, 2019, 11:51:53 am »

Scum has zero incentive to do our work for us. This is ridiculous. Kill the claimed scum!

This.

MiX is dead wrong. You kill scum that can kill when you have the chance. Absolutely 0 part of Faust’s claim is verified. All the other scum factions are going to be hunting for each other at this point, not Town. They’re their own greatest threats to themselves. You absolutely never ever let a claimed killing scum live when given the chance to lynch them.
It seems very unlikely that faust is fakeclaiming his role. I want to hear from DatSwan before deciding who to vote for. Chances are they are both scum that can kill. faust can only kill once. Scum!Swan would be able to kill every night.

I see no reason Swan could be scum over you, or MiX, or pubby, or Europe, or Joseph, or any other host of players. All we’re doing is hunting potentially helpful PR’s and outing them - decreasing further any chance we still have of winning.
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TOWN Wins: M3, M5, M6, M11, M17, M28, M32, M105, M108, M114, M118, M120, M122, DM1, DoM1, OZ2, RM45, RM47, RM48, RM49, RM55
TOWN Losses: M4, M7, M8, M9, M13, M14, M18, M31, M110, M111, M113, M117, M125, RM3, RM4, RM54
SCUM Wins: M2, M19, M23, M100, DM3, RM1, RM2, RM48, RM50
SCUM Losses: M15 (SK), M102 (Tr), OZ1, RM55

Total Wins: 30
Total Losses: 20

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Re: BM27: Bad Idea Mafia (Day Two)
« Reply #749 on: November 20, 2019, 11:52:14 am »

We're at 5 for Swan it looks likes.
This makes it look like I'm counting down to a lynch, it's the other way around. We shouldn't be lynching anyone for at least another two RL days, still lots to discuss.

What Bright said.
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