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[Swowl]

catching up.

I see Galz' point in flipping Shraeye to learn about Arch... except like I do not think Shraeye has done much super skummy. And I don't see Archtype coming out and claiming what they did blunt like that as Skum (regardless of what Shraeye is).... So I do not like either of those options.

Galz last minute push to Archtype - that was weird. But the Shraeye thing is not skummy. I don't agree with it today, but doesn't make it skummy.

Those are my thoughts, and I am sorry I have been absent.

I have no frikin clue who I wanna vote - I will be back in a moment, need to finish reading.

[Archetype]

Back to vote: Shraeye.

Archetype has essentially claimed “scum” (to investigate and flip as scum anyway), but has claimed to be town whose anti-power causes this.

Either he IS scum, in which case arguing such and lynching him is perfectly valid, or he’s Town. But if he’s Town, then his flip and claim thusfar tell us nothing about Shraeye. They cannot IC Shraeye... because even if Archetype is Town & truthful all he’s really told us is that Shraeye will investigate as scum...

However, flipping Shraeye COULD give us information on Archetype. If Shraeye flips as scum or some sort of Miller variant, then it at least tells us that there’s some truth to what Archetype has said. And if Shraeye flips green with no Miller variant, then Archetype is most likely scum himself.

I think this may be misunderstood a bit. My role name includes Miller/Death Miller, but it is effectively causing me to show up in death/investigation as whatever alignment shraeye is.

[Swowl]

Back to vote: Shraeye.

Archetype has essentially claimed “scum” (to investigate and flip as scum anyway), but has claimed to be town whose anti-power causes this.

Either he IS scum, in which case arguing such and lynching him is perfectly valid, or he’s Town. But if he’s Town, then his flip and claim thusfar tell us nothing about Shraeye. They cannot IC Shraeye... because even if Archetype is Town & truthful all he’s really told us is that Shraeye will investigate as scum...

However, flipping Shraeye COULD give us information on Archetype. If Shraeye flips as scum or some sort of Miller variant, then it at least tells us that there’s some truth to what Archetype has said. And if Shraeye flips green with no Miller variant, then Archetype is most likely scum himself.

I think this may be misunderstood a bit. My role name includes Miller/Death Miller, but it is effectively causing me to show up in death/investigation as whatever alignment shraeye is.

ah. solid clarification there.

So you are essentially a "Shraeye Miller" but you do not know anything regarding what Shraeye is? is that right?

[Archetype]

Back to vote: Shraeye.

Archetype has essentially claimed “scum” (to investigate and flip as scum anyway), but has claimed to be town whose anti-power causes this.

Either he IS scum, in which case arguing such and lynching him is perfectly valid, or he’s Town. But if he’s Town, then his flip and claim thusfar tell us nothing about Shraeye. They cannot IC Shraeye... because even if Archetype is Town & truthful all he’s really told us is that Shraeye will investigate as scum...

However, flipping Shraeye COULD give us information on Archetype. If Shraeye flips as scum or some sort of Miller variant, then it at least tells us that there’s some truth to what Archetype has said. And if Shraeye flips green with no Miller variant, then Archetype is most likely scum himself.

I think this may be misunderstood a bit. My role name includes Miller/Death Miller, but it is effectively causing me to show up in death/investigation as whatever alignment shraeye is.

ah. solid clarification there.

So you are essentially a "Shraeye Miller" but you do not know anything regarding what Shraeye is? is that right?

Yes

[Swowl]

lol hilariously that means the opposite of Galz plan is what would make sense.

We lynch Arche and that happens plus learn Shraeye.

However, I still don't think I like the plan - even the other way around.

[Swowl]

Arche - Do you know if you will flip faction roles zombie/human or what of those that you would flip? Like do you know what info we would learn about Shraeye?

[Galzria]

unvote

Well... Suggestions?

[Galzria]

I will say it feels... troll-y(?)... for that role to be in the game, given to Town, on a Town player... which essentially would mean... it’s non-factor role entirely.

[popsofctown]

it could be on a scum player since deathmillering yourself could be powerful for a scum who wants to hide their association with the other scums.

[popsofctown]

Shoot Archetype You can all stop playing faerie chess and vote for mafia instead of figuring out who is death miller linked by a magic cord to which player's zombie potion to trigger the magic doublevote.  Kill the bad guys.

Look at the people who post with the evil in their hearts and vote them.

Vote: Galzria
I think joth and efoo and Galzria Awaclus are all scummy.  I really don't Galzria's fast oversimple summary about the miller and trying to push the shraeye lynch.
I think Datswan and Space Anemone have good hearts so far I will vote for anyone who isn't town.

I will try to check the pulse on this as many times as I can before I fall asleep let's win this one for the little children that want to grow old enough to play M rated zombie games even though they're a latchkey child because their poor parents became zombies

[shraeye]

I like best that Galz-"did-not-check-with-mod"-ria, who is normally a VERY analytical player who does amazingly deep re-reads of the thread didn't notice that the Final Vote count was last corrected 30 minutes after DatSwan pointed out that I was on two people, didn't bother to check that things were updated 2 days before his policy vote, and didn't reread or examine anything before he dove into the deep end on "shraeye hasn't confirmed anything so is scum".

If Galz cared about scumhunting in this scenario, he would realize that
A) pointing out a double-voter isn't necessary
B) things had been clearly edited to show I wasn't
C) not responding to his question (or DatSwan's observation) was unconventional and thus easy to paint as scummy, but also something that scum would NEVER DO because of the attention it would bring

so, for emphasis,
vote: Galz

You don’t think this is too weak of a case for scum!Galzria to push? The vote count is pretty obviously a mod mistake imo and I would think Galzria would see that if he wasn’t town.

I think he didn't look past DatSwans question about my vote, didn't see that fausts had fixed it, simply saw that nobody brought it up again.  I would expect town Galz to double check

[Archetype]

Well that was...very anti town of pops

[Archetype]

Arche - Do you know if you will flip faction roles zombie/human or what of those that you would flip? Like do you know what info we would learn about Shraeye?

You’ll be able to see my role when I flip, the alignment I show as will be determined by what shraeye’s is.

[popsofctown]

No it is very protown you will see

[shraeye]

You can all stop playing faerie chess and vote for mafia instead of figuring out who is death miller linked by a magic cord to which player's zombie potion to trigger the magic doublevote.  Kill the bad guys.

Look at the people who post with the evil in their hearts and vote them.

Yes yes yes yes.  Please don't be scum, because you're the main voice of reason here so far.

[shraeye]

Well that was...very anti town of pops

Why is vigging antitown?  Is lynching antitown too?

[faust]

Vote Count 2.3

shraeye (3): jotheonah, Awaclus, Glooble
Galzria (2): shraeye, popsofctown
Archetype (2): EFHW, WestCoastDidds
jotheonah (1): Archetype

Not Voting (3): SpaceAnemone, DatSwan, Galzria

With 11 alive, it takes 6 to lynch. Day 2 ends on January 08, 2020, 07:00:00 am.

That is in 6 hours.

[Galzria]

vote: Shraeye

[popsofctown]

Scum scumposting
vote Galzria

[Galzria]

Well that was...very anti town of pops

Why is vigging antitown?  Is lynching antitown too?

Not when it’s lynching you.

[shraeye]

vote: Shraeye

Literally laughing out loud at this.


But for real, WCD jumping to archetype at efhw's plans is what we should all write down in our notes.  If she doesn't post by 6am, put two stars next to that too.

[Galzria]

vote: Shraeye

Literally laughing out loud at this.


But for real, WCD jumping to archetype at efhw's plans is what we should all write down in our notes.  If she doesn't post by 6am, put two stars next to that too.

WCD is the towniest player thusfar.

[Archetype]

Well that was...very anti town of pops

Why is vigging antitown?  Is lynching antitown too?

No

vote: Shraeye

Literally laughing out loud at this.


But for real, WCD jumping to archetype at efhw's plans is what we should all write down in our notes.  If she doesn't post by 6am, put two stars next to that too.

WCD is the towniest player thusfar.

Her vote switch was hella opportunistic

[shraeye]

To clarify, I'm throwing shade at WCD specifically for that vote-switch (EFHW is not necessarily part of that)

[popsofctown]

I don't like WCD's vote switch either