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My 1st rated game (with cards I did not know)!
« on: September 25, 2019, 11:47:12 am »
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Hi everyone,

I did my 1st rated game online today and I won even though there was quite a few cards I did not know (by the way, is it possible to do automatching but only with my familiar cards?).

Kingdom was :
Poacher Council room Festival Sculptor Artisan
Lackeys Acting Troup Experiment Vassal MoneyLender
Landmarks : Fair Fleet

I am not sure what is the best way to post the log, but here it is :

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Game #31000952, rated.lillumultipass: 31.74MontyPythonsFC: 49.34Kingdom generated with these relative percentages:0%: Possession

l starts with 7 Coppers.

l starts with 3 Estates.

M starts with 7 Coppers.

M starts with 3 Estates.

l shuffles their deck.

l draws 2 Coppers and 3 Estates.

M shuffles their deck.

M draws 5 cards.



Turn 1 - lillumultipass

l plays 2 Coppers. (+$2)

l buys and gains a Lackeys.

l gets +2 Villagers.

l draws 5 Coppers.



Turn 1 - MontyPythonsFC

M plays 4 Coppers. (+$4)

M buys and gains a Moneylender.

M draws 5 cards.



Turn 2 - lillumultipass

l plays 5 Coppers. (+$5)

l buys and gains a Festival.

l shuffles their deck.

l draws 4 Coppers and an Estate.



Turn 2 - MontyPythonsFC

M plays 3 Coppers. (+$3)

M buys and gains a Silver.

M shuffles their deck.

M draws 5 cards.



Turn 3 - lillumultipass

l plays 4 Coppers. (+$4)

l buys and gains a Poacher.

l draws 2 Coppers, 2 Estates and a Festival.



Turn 3 - MontyPythonsFC

M plays a Silver and 4 Coppers. (+$6)

M buys and gains an Artisan.

M draws 5 cards.



Turn 4 - lillumultipass

l plays a Festival.

l gets +2 Actions.

l gets +1 Buy.

l gets +$2.

l plays 2 Coppers. (+$2)

l buys and gains a Moneylender.

l shuffles their deck.

l draws a Copper, an Estate, a Festival, a Poacher and a Lackeys.



Turn 4 - MontyPythonsFC

M plays 3 Coppers. (+$3)

M buys and gains an Acting Troupe.

M shuffles their deck.

M draws 5 cards.



Turn 5 - lillumultipass

l plays a Festival.

l gets +2 Actions.

l gets +1 Buy.

l gets +$2.

l plays a Lackeys.

l draws a Copper and an Estate.

l plays a Poacher.

l draws a Copper.

l gets +1 Action.

l gets +$1.

l plays 3 Coppers. (+$3)

l buys and gains an Artisan.

l draws 4 Coppers and a Moneylender.



Turn 5 - MontyPythonsFC

M plays an Acting Troupe.

M gets +4 Villagers.

M trashes an Acting Troupe.

M uses 1 Villager.

M plays a Moneylender.

M trashes a Copper.

M gets +$3.

M buys and gains an Acting Troupe.

M draws 5 cards.



Turn 6 - lillumultipass

l plays a Moneylender.

l trashes a Copper.

l gets +$3.

l plays 3 Coppers. (+$3)

l buys and gains an Artisan.

l shuffles their deck.

l draws a Copper, an Estate, an Artisan, a Festival and a Poacher.



Turn 6 - MontyPythonsFC

M plays a Silver and 3 Coppers. (+$5)

M buys and gains a Festival.

M shuffles their deck.

M draws 5 cards.



Turn 7 - lillumultipass

l plays a Festival.

l gets +2 Actions.

l gets +1 Buy.

l gets +$2.

l plays an Artisan.

l gains a Council Room.

l topdecks a Council Room.

l plays a Poacher.

l draws a Council Room.

l gets +1 Action.

l gets +$1.

l plays a Council Room.

l draws a Copper, 2 Estates and a Lackeys.

l gets +1 Buy.

M draws a card.

l uses 1 Villager.

l plays a Lackeys.

l draws an Artisan and a Moneylender.

l uses 1 Villager.

l plays a Moneylender.

l trashes a Copper.

l gets +$3.

l plays a Copper. (+$1)

l buys and gains a Festival.

l buys and gains a Lackeys.

l gets +2 Villagers.

l shuffles their deck.

l draws 4 Coppers and a Lackeys.



Turn 7 - MontyPythonsFC

M plays a Festival.

M gets +2 Actions.

M gets +1 Buy.

M gets +$2.

M plays an Artisan.

M gains a Council Room.

M topdecks a card.

M plays a Council Room.

M draws 4 cards.

M gets +1 Buy.

l draws an Estate.

M uses 1 Villager.

M plays an Acting Troupe.

M gets +4 Villagers.

M trashes an Acting Troupe.

M plays 5 Coppers. (+$5)

M buys and gains a Lackeys.

M gets +2 Villagers.

M buys and gains a Festival.

M draws 5 cards.



Turn 8 - lillumultipass

l plays a Lackeys.

l draws an Estate and a Moneylender.

l uses 1 Villager.

l plays a Moneylender.

l trashes a Copper.

l gets +$3.

l plays 3 Coppers. (+$3)

l buys and gains a Festival.

l draws an Estate, a Council Room, a Festival, a Poacher and a Lackeys.



Turn 8 - MontyPythonsFC

M plays a Moneylender.

M trashes a Copper.

M gets +$3.

M plays a Silver. (+$2)

M buys and gains a Festival.

M shuffles their deck.

M draws 5 cards.



Turn 9 - lillumultipass

l plays a Festival.

l gets +2 Actions.

l gets +1 Buy.

l gets +$2.

l plays a Council Room.

l draws a Copper, 2 Artisans and a Festival.

l gets +1 Buy.

M draws a card.

l plays a Festival.

l gets +2 Actions.

l gets +1 Buy.

l gets +$2.

l plays a Lackeys.

l shuffles their deck.

l draws a Copper and an Estate.

l plays a Poacher.

l draws a Copper.

l gets +1 Action.

l gets +$1.

l plays an Artisan.

l gains a Festival.

l topdecks an Estate.

l uses 1 Villager.

l plays a Festival.

l gets +2 Actions.

l gets +1 Buy.

l gets +$2.

l plays an Artisan.

l gains a Festival.

l topdecks an Estate.

l plays a Festival.

l gets +2 Actions.

l gets +1 Buy.

l gets +$2.

l plays 3 Coppers. (+$3)

l buys and gains 2 Festivals.

l buys and gains a Lackeys.

l gets +2 Villagers.

l draws a Copper, 2 Estates, a Festival and a Lackeys.



Turn 9 - MontyPythonsFC

M plays a Council Room.

M draws 4 cards.

M gets +1 Buy.

l draws a Moneylender.

M uses 1 Villager.

M plays a Festival.

M gets +2 Actions.

M gets +1 Buy.

M gets +$2.

M plays a Lackeys.

M draws 2 cards.

M plays an Artisan.

M gains a Poacher.

M topdecks a card.

M uses 1 Villager.

M plays a Poacher.

M draws a card.

M gets +1 Action.

M gets +$1.

M discards an Estate.

M plays a Moneylender.

M trashes a Copper.

M gets +$3.

M plays a Silver and 3 Coppers. (+$5)

M buys and gains a Province.

M buys and gains a Vassal.

M shuffles their deck.

M draws 5 cards.



Turn 10 - lillumultipass

l plays a Festival.

l gets +2 Actions.

l gets +1 Buy.

l gets +$2.

l plays a Lackeys.

l shuffles their deck.

l draws a Copper and an Estate.

l plays a Moneylender.

l trashes a Copper.

l gets +$3.

l plays a Copper. (+$1)

l buys and gains a Gold.

l draws a Copper, a Council Room, 2 Festivals and a Poacher.



Turn 10 - MontyPythonsFC

M plays a Festival.

M gets +2 Actions.

M gets +1 Buy.

M gets +$2.

M plays a Festival.

M gets +2 Actions.

M gets +1 Buy.

M gets +$2.

M plays 2 Coppers. (+$2)

M buys and gains a Lackeys.

M gets +2 Villagers.

M buys and gains a Poacher.

M draws 5 cards.



Turn 11 - lillumultipass

l plays a Festival.

l gets +2 Actions.

l gets +1 Buy.

l gets +$2.

l plays a Festival.

l gets +2 Actions.

l gets +1 Buy.

l gets +$2.

l plays a Council Room.

l draws a Copper, 2 Artisans and a Festival.

l gets +1 Buy.

M draws a card.

l plays a Festival.

l gets +2 Actions.

l gets +1 Buy.

l gets +$2.

l plays an Artisan.

l gains a Council Room.

l topdecks an Artisan.

l plays a Council Room.

l draws an Artisan, a Festival and 2 Lackeys.

l gets +1 Buy.

M draws a card.

l plays a Festival.

l gets +2 Actions.

l gets +1 Buy.

l gets +$2.

l plays a Lackeys.

l draws 2 Festivals.

l plays a Festival.

l gets +2 Actions.

l gets +1 Buy.

l gets +$2.

l plays a Festival.

l gets +2 Actions.

l gets +1 Buy.

l gets +$2.

l plays an Artisan.

l gains a Poacher.

l topdecks a Lackeys.

l plays a Poacher.

l draws a Lackeys.

l gets +1 Action.

l gets +$1.

l discards a Lackeys.

l plays a Poacher.

l shuffles their deck.

l draws a Moneylender.

l gets +1 Action.

l gets +$1.

l discards a Copper.

l plays a Moneylender.

l trashes a Copper.

l gets +$3.

l buys and gains 2 Provinces.

l draws 2 Estates, a Festival and 2 Lackeys.



Turn 11 - MontyPythonsFC

M plays a Council Room.

M draws 4 cards.

M gets +1 Buy.

l draws an Estate.

M uses 1 Villager.

M plays a Festival.

M gets +2 Actions.

M gets +1 Buy.

M gets +$2.

M plays a Poacher.

M draws a card.

M gets +1 Action.

M gets +$1.

M discards a Province.

M plays a Lackeys.

M shuffles their deck.

M draws 2 cards.

M plays a Vassal.

M gets +$2.

M discards a Lackeys.

M plays a Lackeys.

M draws 2 cards.

M uses 1 Villager.

M plays a Festival.

M gets +2 Actions.

M gets +1 Buy.

M gets +$2.

M plays a Moneylender.

M trashes a Copper.

M gets +$3.

M plays an Artisan.

M gains a Vassal.

M topdecks a card.

M uses 1 Villager.

M plays a Vassal.

M gets +$2.

M discards an Estate.

M plays a Silver and 2 Coppers. (+$4)

M buys and gains 2 Provinces.

M shuffles their deck.

M draws 5 cards.



Turn 12 - lillumultipass

l plays a Festival.

l gets +2 Actions.

l gets +1 Buy.

l gets +$2.

l plays a Lackeys.

l draws a Copper and a Gold.

l plays a Lackeys.

l shuffles their deck.

l draws 2 Festivals.

l uses 1 Villager.

l plays a Festival.

l gets +2 Actions.

l gets +1 Buy.

l gets +$2.

l plays a Festival.

l gets +2 Actions.

l gets +1 Buy.

l gets +$2.

l plays a Gold and a Copper. (+$4)

l buys and gains 2 Duchies.

l draws a Province, 2 Festivals, a Poacher and a Lackeys.



Turn 12 - MontyPythonsFC

M plays a Festival.

M gets +2 Actions.

M gets +1 Buy.

M gets +$2.

M plays a Poacher.

M draws a card.

M gets +1 Action.

M gets +$1.

M discards a Province.

M plays a Vassal.

M gets +$2.

M discards a Moneylender.

M plays a Moneylender.

M trashes a Copper.

M gets +$3.

M buys and gains a Province.

M draws 5 cards.



Turn 13 - lillumultipass

l plays a Festival.

l gets +2 Actions.

l gets +1 Buy.

l gets +$2.

l plays a Festival.

l gets +2 Actions.

l gets +1 Buy.

l gets +$2.

l plays a Lackeys.

l draws a Province and a Council Room.

l plays a Council Room.

l draws a Copper, an Artisan, a Festival and a Poacher.

l gets +1 Buy.

M draws a card.

l plays a Festival.

l gets +2 Actions.

l gets +1 Buy.

l gets +$2.

l plays an Artisan.

l gains a Council Room.

l topdecks a Province.

l plays a Council Room.

l draws a Province, an Artisan, a Council Room and a Moneylender.

l gets +1 Buy.

M draws a card.

l uses 1 Villager.

l plays a Poacher.

l draws a Festival.

l gets +1 Action.

l gets +$1.

l discards a Province.

l plays a Festival.

l gets +2 Actions.

l gets +1 Buy.

l gets +$2.

l plays a Council Room.

l shuffles their deck.

l draws a Copper, a Gold and 2 Festivals.

l gets +1 Buy.

M draws a card.

l plays a Festival.

l gets +2 Actions.

l gets +1 Buy.

l gets +$2.

l plays a Festival.

l gets +2 Actions.

l gets +1 Buy.

l gets +$2.

l plays an Artisan.

l gains a Council Room.

l topdecks a Province.

l plays a Council Room.

l draws an Estate, a Duchy, a Province and a Lackeys.

l gets +1 Buy.

M draws a card.

l plays a Lackeys.

l draws an Estate and a Duchy.

l plays a Gold and 2 Coppers. (+$5)

l buys and gains 2 Provinces.

l shuffles their deck.

l draws an Estate, a Province, a Council Room, a Festival and a Lackeys.


I was lucky because I am quite used to Festival and Artisan boards so that's what I was looking for initially. I liked lackeys as a drawer and a way to smooth my draws (with council room for instance). I did not see a lot of value to Experiment and Sculptor and I felt 1 moneylender was enough.

Any remarks ?
thanks !
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Re: My 1st rated game (with cards I did not know)!
« Reply #1 on: September 26, 2019, 02:53:53 am »
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You can't play rated games with liked or familiar cards but can ban or reduce the offering rate of a few cards for rated play. I looked through the whole log briefly, and your turns seem pretty decent overall. I would have definitely opened with a sculptor with a 2/5 opening (getting a gainer on your first two turns can be very good--it is a bit less good here because there is Artisan, which you also want to get, but I think it is still worth it). I would have thought about maybe getting a couple of vassals to help with economy, although I don't think you were really hurting for money much--vassal is better if you have 2 Artisans. Lastly, be careful with poacher if you think piles may go low (couldn't tell how low they went, but with Artisan, piles can often empty).

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Re: My 1st rated game (with cards I did not know)!
« Reply #2 on: September 26, 2019, 05:30:40 am »
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Quite nice play. Good use of artisans. As with the above comment sculptor is a powerhouse (so you open at 5) (especially on that board). nice trashing, nice econ understanding. Probably first buy moneylender then poacher. Trashing those coppers is important. Nice village to smithy-variant ratio. Gj!
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Re: My 1st rated game (with cards I did not know)!
« Reply #3 on: September 26, 2019, 11:54:05 am »
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Thanks for the kind words !

Ok so it seems I totally underestimated Sculptor. My reasoning was that Festival and Artisan were the key cards here and I had to go to Artisan quickly, hence Festival was necessary (and anyhow, I wanted to build a festival-lackey engine with a bit of council room).

Also, as I dismissed Vassal (it's not a card I used a lot and vaued a lot), I did not see a lot of value in 3-4 cost cards (basically I thought I needed 1 moneylender and a few poacher at most). Indeed, I now see that moneylender a bit earlier and at least 1 vassal in the mid-game would have been better (above all as I realize now that the combo with Artisan is pretty nifty!)

As to poacher, I did not really mind if a pile emptied in the late game and indeed I emptied the Festivals at the end. But yeah, I only got 2 of them, just in case.
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Re: My 1st rated game (with cards I did not know)!
« Reply #4 on: September 28, 2019, 12:53:46 pm »
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Festival-Lackey has some problems as an engine. Chief of which is that it doesn't actually have any net draw.
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Re: My 1st rated game (with cards I did not know)!
« Reply #5 on: September 28, 2019, 07:42:09 pm »
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Festival-Lackey has some problems as an engine. Chief of which is that it doesn't actually have any net draw.

I made that mistake with Squire/Steward earlier today, actually. I realized about halfway through, and tried to switch to Imps from Devil's Workshop, which required Guides. I might have come back and won if I had bought a Duchy instead of the last Province due to miscounting points, but I doubt it.
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