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Re: M125: Poker Mafia! - Day 3
« Reply #1100 on: November 13, 2019, 12:23:41 pm »

Day 3 Final Vote Count   

Joth (6): Raerae, Joseph, SpaceAnemone, LaLight, Eevee, faust
Eevee(2): Galzria, Joth

Not Voting (2): Raptor, Maxford


With 10 alive, it took 6 to lynch.


Flip coming shortly. I just woke up.






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Re: M125: Poker Mafia! - Day 3
« Reply #1101 on: November 13, 2019, 12:24:18 pm »

Feel free to Twilight it up until thread locks.
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Re: M125: Poker Mafia! - Day 3
« Reply #1102 on: November 13, 2019, 12:37:30 pm »

If I promise not to post anymore, can I have my speccy link now :P ?
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Re: M125: Poker Mafia! - Day 3
« Reply #1103 on: November 13, 2019, 12:40:27 pm »

As the town huddles around yet another Card that has been torn to pieces, the Evil Kings gather in the distance....   

   "Our numbers are nearly strong enough, but we must remain vigilant."
"Yes, yes. Spot on performance today though. Truly a masterpiece!"

One of the Evil Kings starts to chuckle, somewhat hysterically...

   "Shh! We are all pleased, but keep it down! We do not want to draw attention to ourselves!"
"Yes, indeed! Besides, what in the world is so funny?"

Still laughing, the King whispers...

   "Don't you get the irony? All they ever wanted to do was save other Cards from harms way... and now they are dead for it!"




Joth has been lynched. They were the Queen of Diamonds, the Numerically-Aligned 2-Shot Doctor.



Night 3 begins now and ends on Friday, November 15th at 12:40pm EST.
Please submit any night actions within the next 24 hours.


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Re: M125: Poker Mafia! - Day 3
« Reply #1104 on: November 15, 2019, 03:31:41 pm »

The Decks numbers are dwindling, and morale is understandably at an absolute low...

   "I just can't believe the doc is dead"
"Yes, a choice we surely all regret..."
   "Well, not ALL of us of course,"
"Yes, you are right... it is time to deal with the problem at hand head on!"
   "What do you mean?"
"Let us go and alert the authorities to the situation at hand!"

The Deck clamors in the joy of such a good idea. Then as the noise drops lower, there is a chuckle from the other side of the room....

"I am afraid, fellow Cards.... That no such thing is longer possible."



XXRaptorSlayer96 has died at Night! They were the 10 of Clubs, the Numerically-Aligned 1-Shot Cop.
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Re: M125: Poker Mafia! - Day 3
« Reply #1105 on: November 15, 2019, 03:32:09 pm »

DAY 4 STARTS NOW!


Vote Count 4.0:

Not Voting (8 ):
faust, Joseph2302, Maxford, Eevee, Galzria, SpaceAnemone, LaLight, raerae


With 8 players alive, it takes 5 to lynch.
Day 4 ends on Friday, November 22nd, at 3:32pm EST.


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Re: M125: Poker Mafia! - Day 4!
« Reply #1106 on: November 15, 2019, 03:37:00 pm »

Obviously this opens right before I go to work. Are we claiming today or just killing faust? Does anybody have a reason NOT to kill him?
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Re: M125: Poker Mafia! - Day 4!
« Reply #1107 on: November 15, 2019, 04:25:09 pm »

Obviously this opens right before I go to work. Are we claiming today or just killing faust? Does anybody have a reason NOT to kill him?
I'd support Faust lynch
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Re: M125: Poker Mafia! - Day 4!
« Reply #1108 on: November 15, 2019, 04:49:28 pm »

Yeah, I support a faust lynch.

I'm really surprised Joth flipped town, though. Sorry, Joth!
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Re: M125: Poker Mafia! - Day 4!
« Reply #1109 on: November 15, 2019, 05:00:30 pm »

Faust isn't the only scummy player out there... But let's start with the obvious choice

Vote: faust
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Re: M125: Poker Mafia! - Day 4!
« Reply #1110 on: November 15, 2019, 05:26:40 pm »

I had faust in mind as the first suspect as well.

We lynch our doctor and wake up to no night kill is.. something.
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Re: M125: Poker Mafia! - Day 4!
« Reply #1111 on: November 15, 2019, 05:27:05 pm »

Oops misread. Nevermind, this makes more sense.
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Re: M125: Poker Mafia! - Day 4!
« Reply #1112 on: November 15, 2019, 05:32:32 pm »

We may be in MyLo already. 3 scum and 5 town left.
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Re: M125: Poker Mafia! - Day 4!
« Reply #1113 on: November 15, 2019, 05:42:34 pm »

vote: Maxford

We may be in MyLo already. 3 scum and 5 town left.

Minor town points for pointing this out.

Day 3 Final Vote Count   

Joth (6): Raerae, Joseph, SpaceAnemone, LaLight, Eevee, faust
Eevee(2): Galzria, Joth

Not Voting (2): Raptor, Maxford


With 10 alive, it took 6 to lynch.


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I’m not scum, and while it is ENTIRELY possible scum all piled on to Joth (horrible, awful lynch and you should all feel bad), I’m willing to gamble that wasn’t the case.

Faust, while maybe correct that I made all the points he had made already, and maybe correct that it was set up to be him/Joth, absolutely had no reason to hammer when he did, before everybody could check in and respond. He absolutely should’ve re-engaged, as I made it clear he wasn’t the only player I was suspicious of. If Faust is town, he absolutely misplayed.

But I don’t think he’s our best chance to find scum now.
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TOWN Wins: M3, M5, M6, M11, M17, M28, M32, M105, M108, M114, M118, M120, M122, DM1, DoM1, OZ2, RM45, RM47, RM48, RM49, RM55
TOWN Losses: M4, M7, M8, M9, M13, M14, M18, M31, M110, M111, M113, M117, M125, RM3, RM4, RM54
SCUM Wins: M2, M19, M23, M100, DM3, RM1, RM2, RM48, RM50
SCUM Losses: M15 (SK), M102 (Tr), OZ1, RM55

Total Wins: 30
Total Losses: 20

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Re: M125: Poker Mafia! - Day 4!
« Reply #1114 on: November 15, 2019, 05:55:43 pm »

I see that Galzria has been cast in the role of my knight in shining armor.
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Re: M125: Poker Mafia! - Day 4!
« Reply #1115 on: November 15, 2019, 05:58:00 pm »

Lynching me loses the game. This is what I know. I don't think I misplayed, but even if I did I am not the only one. People want to shift all the blame for the mislynch to me when in fact multiple people on that wagon were pushing to get a hammer before Galzria posted.
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Re: M125: Poker Mafia! - Day 4!
« Reply #1116 on: November 15, 2019, 06:25:31 pm »

Lynching me loses the game. This is what I know. I don't think I misplayed, but even if I did I am not the only one. People want to shift all the blame for the mislynch to me when in fact multiple people on that wagon were pushing to get a hammer before Galzria posted.

Oh don’t misunderstand on my end - I don’t put anywhere near the entire blame on you. Raptor was, sadly, likely going to hammer as well (unless he was baiting, but I don’t think so). I’m just sad that Joth went down because while the surface evidence suggested he might be scum, any real attempt at analysis made it clear that just wasn’ta thing. 😒
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TOWN Wins: M3, M5, M6, M11, M17, M28, M32, M105, M108, M114, M118, M120, M122, DM1, DoM1, OZ2, RM45, RM47, RM48, RM49, RM55
TOWN Losses: M4, M7, M8, M9, M13, M14, M18, M31, M110, M111, M113, M117, M125, RM3, RM4, RM54
SCUM Wins: M2, M19, M23, M100, DM3, RM1, RM2, RM48, RM50
SCUM Losses: M15 (SK), M102 (Tr), OZ1, RM55

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Re: M125: Poker Mafia! - Day 4!
« Reply #1117 on: November 15, 2019, 06:31:38 pm »

vote: Maxford

We may be in MyLo already. 3 scum and 5 town left.

Minor town points for pointing this out.

Day 3 Final Vote Count   

Joth (6): Raerae, Joseph, SpaceAnemone, LaLight, Eevee, faust
Eevee(2): Galzria, Joth

Not Voting (2): Raptor, Maxford


With 10 alive, it took 6 to lynch.


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I’m not scum, and while it is ENTIRELY possible scum all piled on to Joth (horrible, awful lynch and you should all feel bad), I’m willing to gamble that wasn’t the case.

Faust, while maybe correct that I made all the points he had made already, and maybe correct that it was set up to be him/Joth, absolutely had no reason to hammer when he did, before everybody could check in and respond. He absolutely should’ve re-engaged, as I made it clear he wasn’t the only player I was suspicious of. If Faust is town, he absolutely misplayed.

But I don’t think he’s our best chance to find scum now.

So this is a cute little defense of faust (admittedly, I asked for it) but you got anything to back up that Maxford vote?
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Re: M125: Poker Mafia! - Day 4!
« Reply #1118 on: November 15, 2019, 07:00:20 pm »

vote: Maxford

We may be in MyLo already. 3 scum and 5 town left.

Minor town points for pointing this out.

Day 3 Final Vote Count   

Joth (6): Raerae, Joseph, SpaceAnemone, LaLight, Eevee, faust
Eevee(2): Galzria, Joth

Not Voting (2): Raptor, Maxford


With 10 alive, it took 6 to lynch.


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I’m not scum, and while it is ENTIRELY possible scum all piled on to Joth (horrible, awful lynch and you should all feel bad), I’m willing to gamble that wasn’t the case.

Faust, while maybe correct that I made all the points he had made already, and maybe correct that it was set up to be him/Joth, absolutely had no reason to hammer when he did, before everybody could check in and respond. He absolutely should’ve re-engaged, as I made it clear he wasn’t the only player I was suspicious of. If Faust is town, he absolutely misplayed.

But I don’t think he’s our best chance to find scum now.

So this is a cute little defense of faust (admittedly, I asked for it) but you got anything to back up that Maxford vote?

I think Galzria's thought process is "It's very unlikely that all scum players were on joth, so at least one scum player was not. Joth is dead, Raptor is dead, I am town so Maxford must be scum".

By the same logic, I should be voting for Galzria right now. But I still think that the weight of the evidence points more strongly towards faust than Galzria, so I don't quite understand why me instead of faust.
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Re: M125: Poker Mafia! - Day 4!
« Reply #1119 on: November 15, 2019, 07:08:27 pm »

I think Galzria's thought process is "It's very unlikely that all scum players were on joth, so at least one scum player was not. Joth is dead, Raptor is dead, I am town so Maxford must be scum".

By the same logic, I should be voting for Galzria right now. But I still think that the weight of the evidence points more strongly towards faust than Galzria, so I don't quite understand why me instead of faust.

I think I'll just wait to see what Galz says but interesting take.
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Re: M125: Poker Mafia! - Day 4!
« Reply #1120 on: November 15, 2019, 07:13:29 pm »

vote: Maxford

We may be in MyLo already. 3 scum and 5 town left.

Minor town points for pointing this out.

Day 3 Final Vote Count   

Joth (6): Raerae, Joseph, SpaceAnemone, LaLight, Eevee, faust
Eevee(2): Galzria, Joth

Not Voting (2): Raptor, Maxford


With 10 alive, it took 6 to lynch.


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I’m not scum, and while it is ENTIRELY possible scum all piled on to Joth (horrible, awful lynch and you should all feel bad), I’m willing to gamble that wasn’t the case.

Faust, while maybe correct that I made all the points he had made already, and maybe correct that it was set up to be him/Joth, absolutely had no reason to hammer when he did, before everybody could check in and respond. He absolutely should’ve re-engaged, as I made it clear he wasn’t the only player I was suspicious of. If Faust is town, he absolutely misplayed.

But I don’t think he’s our best chance to find scum now.

So this is a cute little defense of faust (admittedly, I asked for it) but you got anything to back up that Maxford vote?

Oooh, somebody isn’t pleased I didn’t conform to the obvious choice.

I already went through it yesterday. Maxford was my second choice behind Faust at EOD based both off of MiX’s interactions towards him, and his VCA positions. The secondary argument of:

"It's very unlikely that all scum players were on joth, so at least one scum player was not. Joth is dead, Raptor is dead, I am town so Maxford must be scum".

Is just that, secondary. Or rather, additional.
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TOWN Wins: M3, M5, M6, M11, M17, M28, M32, M105, M108, M114, M118, M120, M122, DM1, DoM1, OZ2, RM45, RM47, RM48, RM49, RM55
TOWN Losses: M4, M7, M8, M9, M13, M14, M18, M31, M110, M111, M113, M117, M125, RM3, RM4, RM54
SCUM Wins: M2, M19, M23, M100, DM3, RM1, RM2, RM48, RM50
SCUM Losses: M15 (SK), M102 (Tr), OZ1, RM55

Total Wins: 30
Total Losses: 20

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Re: M125: Poker Mafia! - Day 4!
« Reply #1121 on: November 15, 2019, 07:18:11 pm »

vote: Maxford

We may be in MyLo already. 3 scum and 5 town left.

Minor town points for pointing this out.

Day 3 Final Vote Count   

Joth (6): Raerae, Joseph, SpaceAnemone, LaLight, Eevee, faust
Eevee(2): Galzria, Joth

Not Voting (2): Raptor, Maxford


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I’m not scum, and while it is ENTIRELY possible scum all piled on to Joth (horrible, awful lynch and you should all feel bad), I’m willing to gamble that wasn’t the case.

Faust, while maybe correct that I made all the points he had made already, and maybe correct that it was set up to be him/Joth, absolutely had no reason to hammer when he did, before everybody could check in and respond. He absolutely should’ve re-engaged, as I made it clear he wasn’t the only player I was suspicious of. If Faust is town, he absolutely misplayed.

But I don’t think he’s our best chance to find scum now.

So this is a cute little defense of faust (admittedly, I asked for it) but you got anything to back up that Maxford vote?

Oooh, somebody isn’t pleased I didn’t conform to the obvious choice.

I already went through it yesterday. Maxford was my second choice behind Faust at EOD based both off of MiX’s interactions towards him, and his VCA positions. The secondary argument of:

"It's very unlikely that all scum players were on joth, so at least one scum player was not. Joth is dead, Raptor is dead, I am town so Maxford must be scum".

Is just that, secondary. Or rather, additional.

Sorry I don't remember every detail from the book you wrote yesterday, thanks for the recap.  So why is he now your primary suspect?
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Re: M125: Poker Mafia! - Day 4!
« Reply #1122 on: November 15, 2019, 07:55:52 pm »

vote: Maxford

We may be in MyLo already. 3 scum and 5 town left.

Minor town points for pointing this out.

Day 3 Final Vote Count   

Joth (6): Raerae, Joseph, SpaceAnemone, LaLight, Eevee, faust
Eevee(2): Galzria, Joth

Not Voting (2): Raptor, Maxford


With 10 alive, it took 6 to lynch.


Flip coming shortly. I just woke up.








I’m not scum, and while it is ENTIRELY possible scum all piled on to Joth (horrible, awful lynch and you should all feel bad), I’m willing to gamble that wasn’t the case.

Faust, while maybe correct that I made all the points he had made already, and maybe correct that it was set up to be him/Joth, absolutely had no reason to hammer when he did, before everybody could check in and respond. He absolutely should’ve re-engaged, as I made it clear he wasn’t the only player I was suspicious of. If Faust is town, he absolutely misplayed.

But I don’t think he’s our best chance to find scum now.

So this is a cute little defense of faust (admittedly, I asked for it) but you got anything to back up that Maxford vote?

Oooh, somebody isn’t pleased I didn’t conform to the obvious choice.

I already went through it yesterday. Maxford was my second choice behind Faust at EOD based both off of MiX’s interactions towards him, and his VCA positions. The secondary argument of:

"It's very unlikely that all scum players were on joth, so at least one scum player was not. Joth is dead, Raptor is dead, I am town so Maxford must be scum".

Is just that, secondary. Or rather, additional.

Sorry I don't remember every detail from the book you wrote yesterday, thanks for the recap.  So why is he now your primary suspect?

It was close yesterday between the two. If I was completely honest with myself yesterday, I think the interactions between MiX->Maxford were more scummy than the interactions between Mix->Faust. But faust is a known quantity to me... that is, I think I was biased to give my read on Maxford more leeway because he’s new and I know nothing about him, so I can’t quantify actions as easily. Faust, well, honestly, contrary to popular opinion that always wants/thinks him to be town, I’m *always* fighting myself to not label him Cpt. Scummy McScummyton at every turn. It’s a bias I have, and I’m aware of it, and I try to correct for it. But when game situations present themselves that offer a legitimate scum!faust narrative, I naturally gravitate towards him.

This shouldn’t be taken as a defense of Faust. By no means do I now suddenly think him to be town. But I DO think it’s more likely than Macford being town. Aside from finding MiX’s posts to Maxford as reading like they were coaching, I expressed and stand by my doubts that all scum were voting in VC 1.1, I find his position at vote #7 (L-1) on Shraeye scummy, and I don’t believe, as awful as the Joth lynch was, that it was populated with the ENTIRETY of the scum team.

This is the closest I’ll come to a “In defense of Faust” point:

If Faust is scum, he lynched Joth when he did because he was scared people would log in and respond to my post by voting him instead. This means that scum!faust believed that the people voting Joth already, or those that had expressed intent to hammer, would find my post more compelling than anything he had posted in Joth’s defense already. As he himself notes, he had already made many of the points I already made. And yet as you yourself note Raerae, you’re not intimately familiar with the details of the “book” that I wrote. So what fear did scum!faust *really* have here? Raptor (or Maxford, but I posit that’s he’s scum that didn’t want to load the wagon) was extremely likely to come in and hammer anyway.

Whereas if Faust is town it’s *extremely* bad for him to get lynched over Joth, as that results in his & Raptor’s (NK) death, which leaves Joth alive today with all the same people that were voting Joth yesterday still alive:  Raerae, Joseph, Space, LaLight, Eevee - enough to carry the lunch against someone he read as Town.
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Mafia Record:
TOWN Wins: M3, M5, M6, M11, M17, M28, M32, M105, M108, M114, M118, M120, M122, DM1, DoM1, OZ2, RM45, RM47, RM48, RM49, RM55
TOWN Losses: M4, M7, M8, M9, M13, M14, M18, M31, M110, M111, M113, M117, M125, RM3, RM4, RM54
SCUM Wins: M2, M19, M23, M100, DM3, RM1, RM2, RM48, RM50
SCUM Losses: M15 (SK), M102 (Tr), OZ1, RM55

Total Wins: 30
Total Losses: 20

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Re: M125: Poker Mafia! - Day 4!
« Reply #1123 on: November 15, 2019, 11:01:30 pm »

What's really needed here is more input from Space/Joseph, who are simultaneously the most townie, most lazy and most wrong people around.
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Re: M125: Poker Mafia! - Day 4!
« Reply #1124 on: November 15, 2019, 11:04:03 pm »

Okay, I went back and read your big posts and I'm a little more with you but I can't get behind MiX trying to indicate to or coach someone. Tell me if I'm losing the translation here but isn't that a not small part of your argument for Maxford being scum? That MiX was telling him what to do? I just can't see that being possible with Maxford being new and MiX being a traitor. Why would MiX bother sticking his neck out for the new kid who doesn't know him/his style/etc.? Wouldn't he single out the people who know him instead if he were trying to flag them down? If that's true, and it certainly is in my mind, your own analysis points to faust.
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