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[MiX]

Vote: ADK, wasn't he pushing shraeye and joth?

Wait, what? I think I'm missing at least 10 intermediate logic steps required for your vote there to make sense... Care to break it down for me?

Don't like shraeye wagon (he's scummy, but as LL said, too fast, besides I can just go back), joth wagon is okay-ish but what else is there? Then I remembered ADK, he pushed both wagons, didn't he? Honestly I'm not sure, no time to reread atm. Maybe he's setting up the lynches?

Can you answer the "was ADK pushing both shraeye and joth?" question please?

[jotheonah]

I would love to help get a faust or ADK wagon going, but I have this sneaking suspicion that if I move my vote off of shraeye I'm going to end up being the deadline panic lynch.

[SpaceAnemone]

Yeah, I'm pretty sold on Joth.

The other interesting thing there is that there's really quite good PoE on the wagon, given that Galz, LL and I have been there for ages (since #332). I would have expected scum to try to push that long before now if there wasn't a member already on the wagon (i.e. pointing the finger at me/LL/Galz), or if the wagon itself was already on scum (pointing the finger even more squarely at Joth).

Anyone who's hard-arguing for Joth being townie should be strongly considering that someone on that wagon is scummy. I'm not seeing that from Didds at least. Or Shraeye.

Yes, it's possible we could have three-townies-voting-town and it can just sit like that with scum preoccupied elsewhere, but it's also not that common, especially when Joth is quite a vocal active player whose lynch would actually benefit scum if he's town.

PPE: 2

[SpaceAnemone]

Vote: ADK, wasn't he pushing shraeye and joth?

Wait, what? I think I'm missing at least 10 intermediate logic steps required for your vote there to make sense... Care to break it down for me?

Don't like shraeye wagon (he's scummy, but as LL said, too fast, besides I can just go back), joth wagon is okay-ish but what else is there? Then I remembered ADK, he pushed both wagons, didn't he? Honestly I'm not sure, no time to reread atm. Maybe he's setting up the lynches?

Can you answer the "was ADK pushing both shraeye and joth?" question please?

I can go check wagons, but please stop calling ADK "he".

[faust]

PPE: why are you talking to shraeye in third person?

Oh, well he said he wouldn't be there, so this post is really directed at everyone else, so I got things messed up.

[SpaceAnemone]

Just for the record, the only people who've voted for both Shraeye and Joth so far are faust, MiX and Joseph.

Though I think LL and I have both said we'll move from Joth to Shraeye to get a lynch through.

Still not sure how that translates to MiX's vote on ADK in the meantime.

[MiX]

Vote: ADK, wasn't he pushing shraeye and joth?

Wait, what? I think I'm missing at least 10 intermediate logic steps required for your vote there to make sense... Care to break it down for me?

Don't like shraeye wagon (he's scummy, but as LL said, too fast, besides I can just go back), joth wagon is okay-ish but what else is there? Then I remembered ADK, he pushed both wagons, didn't he? Honestly I'm not sure, no time to reread atm. Maybe he's setting up the lynches?

Can you answer the "was ADK pushing both shraeye and joth?" question please?

I can go check wagons, but please stop calling ADK "he".

Okay so I'm still pretty sure they were pushing shraeye and joth, but they're not getting lynched, so my vote shouldn't be on them. Where's their vote anyway? Still shraeye? Don't wanna sheep them if my hunch is right, but joth is a beautiful mislynch if town...I'll just unvote them and...uh...

Vote: joth


PS: This post is about training to call ADK they.

PPE: Oh okay then ADK's out of the question.

[SpaceAnemone]

Okay so I'm still pretty sure they were pushing shraeye and joth,

... I still don't see why you think that's a reason to vote for ADK, especially if you're not also scumreading other people who really did push both Joth and Shraeye! Can you finish joining the dots for me please?

[MiX]

Okay so I'm still pretty sure they were pushing shraeye and joth,

... I still don't see why you think that's a reason to vote for ADK, especially if you're not also scumreading other people who really did push both Joth and Shraeye! Can you finish joining the dots for me please?

Because he was saying "why is the shraeye wagon not starting" and if he had pushed joth before it looked really scummy. And voting isn't pushing. I'm not pushing the shraeye wagon, for example. I think. Anyway I was wrong.

[jotheonah]

Okay so I'm still pretty sure they were pushing shraeye and joth,

... I still don't see why you think that's a reason to vote for ADK, especially if you're not also scumreading other people who really did push both Joth and Shraeye! Can you finish joining the dots for me please?

Because he was saying "why is the shraeye wagon not starting" and if he had pushed joth before it looked really scummy. And voting isn't pushing. I'm not pushing the shraeye wagon, for example. I think. Anyway I was wrong.

*because they were saying

[MiX]

Aaaaaaaaaah.

This is impossible. Sorry ADK.

[A Drowned Kernel]

The effort is appreciated, don't worry too much

Anyway I think that you're right that I was pushing joth at one point, he's probably been my only solid scum read today other than shraeye. Not particularly inclined to switch at the moment

[SpaceAnemone]

Okay so I'm still pretty sure they were pushing shraeye and joth,

... I still don't see why you think that's a reason to vote for ADK, especially if you're not also scumreading other people who really did push both Joth and Shraeye! Can you finish joining the dots for me please?

Because he was saying "why is the shraeye wagon not starting" and if he had pushed joth before it looked really scummy. And voting isn't pushing. I'm not pushing the shraeye wagon, for example. I think. Anyway I was wrong.

So is this different from me pushing Joth (both in terms of voting for him and making a case/promoting the wagon) since around #317, saying I think Shraeye might be scummy (which I did at #416), and complaining that the Joth wagon is also not picking up as I would have expected it to if Joth were town (which I said at #485)?

[raerae]

Space makes the most sense here. I still don't like how MiX is townreading the world. I don't get the shraeye/faust feud. I won't be around much today either.

Vote: joth

[Eevee]

Reread ADK, admittedly thinking/hoping I'd find them scummy.. but I didn't. I'll join faust if it becomes viable, but right now, since I prefer him over shraeye, I'm going to Vote: joth.

[Eevee]

Didn't see the PPE.. hopefully I didnt derphammer joth.

[Eevee]

Oof, Joth is at 6 now if Spacecount was accurate. Belated L-1 warning!

[Joseph2302]

Oof, Joth is at 6 now if Spacecount was accurate. Belated L-1 warning!

6 is L-2 in a 14 player game, right?

[Joseph2302]

And I prefer shraeye lynch over joth, but joth beats no lynch

[MiX]

Okay so I'm still pretty sure they were pushing shraeye and joth,

... I still don't see why you think that's a reason to vote for ADK, especially if you're not also scumreading other people who really did push both Joth and Shraeye! Can you finish joining the dots for me please?

Because he was saying "why is the shraeye wagon not starting" and if he had pushed joth before it looked really scummy. And voting isn't pushing. I'm not pushing the shraeye wagon, for example. I think. Anyway I was wrong.

So is this different from me pushing Joth (both in terms of voting for him and making a case/promoting the wagon) since around #317, saying I think Shraeye might be scummy (which I did at #416), and complaining that the Joth wagon is also not picking up as I would have expected it to if Joth were town (which I said at #485)?

Not very, but lynching you D1 sucks. You're one of my scumreads, just haven't voted you. Kinda like faust.

Oof, Joth is at 6 now if Spacecount was accurate. Belated L-1 warning!

6 is L-2 in a 14 player game, right?

Unless he's hated, yes.

And I prefer shraeye lynch over joth, but joth beats no lynch

Agreed.

Vote: shraeye, L-?

[SpaceAnemone]

Space Count

Shraeye (7): A Drowned Kernel, faust, Joseph2302, WestCoastDidds, jotheonah, Maxford, MiX
jotheonah (5): Galzria, SpaceAnemone, LaLight, raerae, Eevee
faust (1): Shraeye
Not Voting (1): Xxraptorslayer96

So Shraeye is at L-1, and MiX jumped off Joth the moment the wagons evened up, which might be telling for later.

[Joseph2302]

Oof, Joth is at 6 now if Spacecount was accurate. Belated L-1 warning!

6 is L-2 in a 14 player game, right?

Unless he's hated, yes.
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That's a weirdly specific example for a game with no evidence that we're using hated

[Joseph2302]

Oof, Joth is at 6 now if Spacecount was accurate. Belated L-1 warning!

6 is L-2 in a 14 player game, right?

Unless he's hated, yes.

Quote fail. This is how I was trying to quote

[WestCoastDidds]

What's with Shraeye just giving up? Usually he fights to the death....

[MiX]

Space Count

Shraeye (7): A Drowned Kernel, faust, Joseph2302, WestCoastDidds, jotheonah, Maxford, MiX
jotheonah (5): Galzria, SpaceAnemone, LaLight, raerae, Eevee
faust (1): Shraeye
Not Voting (1): Xxraptorslayer96

So Shraeye is at L-1, and MiX jumped off Joth the moment the wagons evened up, which might be telling for later.

Yeah I did that for joth too. I don't want a derphammer.

Oof, Joth is at 6 now if Spacecount was accurate. Belated L-1 warning!

6 is L-2 in a 14 player game, right?

Unless he's hated, yes.

That's a weirdly specific example for a game with no evidence that we're using hated
[/quote]

I don't like extremely short answers. There's other reasons for 6 votes in a 14 player day to not be L-2, but hated is the most important one.

Quoting your fix is hard work on mobile.

What's with Shraeye just giving up? Usually he fights to the death....

It's part of his "I know faust is scum" bit. Or something. Shraeye is weird.