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[raerae]

Vote: DatSwan

I still think scum would have come in strong and pushed a case today.  That means joth or DatSwan. 

[faust]

Jimmmm voters, if Jimmmm is town, what does that get us? LaLight voters, same question.

It increases the average activity in the game. Also, we get a wagon to analyze.

[faust]

Vote: DatSwan

I still think scum would have come in strong and pushed a case today.  That means joth or DatSwan.

Even with this, there would be scum who didn't push a case, so why do you focus on those who did?

[Uncleeurope]

I trust Shraeye at the moment.

At least I trust him more than a bucket of people.

[raerae]

Vote: DatSwan

I still think scum would have come in strong and pushed a case today.  That means joth or DatSwan.

Even with this, there would be scum who didn't push a case, so why do you focus on those who did?

Six of one, half dozen of another.  I'm focusing on one group either way and I'd rather look at the ones I know more about.  Focusing on the less active ones feels like more of a shot in the dark.

[Jimmmmm]

Rereading Swan, without knowing or remembering why others are voting for him. Nothing of note from Day 1.

DatSwan joins joth's argument against raerae. If I understand correctly, the case boils down to 1) raerae put MiX on L-1, claiming it was L-2 and 2) raerae "DEFENDS" shraeye against a MiX vengekill.

I think claiming that she defended him is a stretch. MiX was seemingly emotional and about to make a kneejerk reaction. I also think there's a big difference between wanting to advocate someone's lynch and wanting them to be the second kill of a Day with no extra information, moreso in an RMM.

He also states "There is of course also the narrative where they both could be skum I suppose, but as people have already touched on it, I am not gonna get into it." I'm pretty sure the raerae scum narrative had been touched on as well, so why the need to mention shraeye without commenting?

Nothing else really jumps out at me from Swan. Seems like an okay lynch, and his "I suppose shraeye could be scum" makes him seem a reasonable candidate for a partner of shraeye's.


I quickly looked over the votes for Swan and reread Galz (who I'm a tad suspicious of, but that's work for another day) to find out why he's been voted for, and found very little. Those voting for him - why?


I'm off to bed now. I'll be on for an hour or so before deadline.

[Galzria]

I stand by my Swan vote & encourage those who wish to lynch scum to vote there.

Do you have particular insight based on your irl knowledge of him?

In real life reason? No. In game reason? Yes.

[Swowl]

I stand by my Swan vote & encourage those who wish to lynch scum to vote there.

Do you have particular insight based on your irl knowledge of him?

In real life reason? No. In game reason? Yes.

your in this game?

[Swowl]

Jimmmm voters, if Jimmmm is town, what does that get us? LaLight voters, same question.

I think shraeye is a better wagon because he has a much richer set of interactions. We learn so much from his lynch either way. I also happen to think he's more likely to flip scum, but that's neither here nor there.

Galzria, all due respect, either make a real case on DatSwan or move your vote somewhere useful. Same goes for gkreig re: Awaclus. We're 9 hours from deadline, time to pick a real wagon.

If we lynch shraeye and shraeye flips town, what does it get us?

[Swowl]

I will be around (on mobile mostly) up until deadline.

[Galzria]

I stand by my Swan vote & encourage those who wish to lynch scum to vote there.

Do you have particular insight based on your irl knowledge of him?

In real life reason? No. In game reason? Yes.

your in this game?

Yes, and I know you’re not aligned with the Gatewatch.

[Swowl]

Rereading Swan, without knowing or remembering why others are voting for him. Nothing of note from Day 1.

DatSwan joins joth's argument against raerae. If I understand correctly, the case boils down to 1) raerae put MiX on L-1, claiming it was L-2 and 2) raerae "DEFENDS" shraeye against a MiX vengekill.

I think claiming that she defended him is a stretch. MiX was seemingly emotional and about to make a kneejerk reaction. I also think there's a big difference between wanting to advocate someone's lynch and wanting them to be the second kill of a Day with no extra information, moreso in an RMM.

He also states "There is of course also the narrative where they both could be skum I suppose, but as people have already touched on it, I am not gonna get into it." I'm pretty sure the raerae scum narrative had been touched on as well, so why the need to mention shraeye without commenting?

Nothing else really jumps out at me from Swan. Seems like an okay lynch, and his "I suppose shraeye could be scum" makes him seem a reasonable candidate for a partner of shraeye's.


I quickly looked over the votes for Swan and reread Galz (who I'm a tad suspicious of, but that's work for another day) to find out why he's been voted for, and found very little. Those voting for him - why?


I'm off to bed now. I'll be on for an hour or so before deadline.

just mentioned shraeye in regards to Rae!Shraeye being a possibility. However, as it was the beginning of Day 2, I did not want to present a case that was based on 2 exact players being skum buddies... I thought the other points I had to make held more merit and deserved more focus.

[Swowl]

I stand by my Swan vote & encourage those who wish to lynch scum to vote there.

Do you have particular insight based on your irl knowledge of him?

In real life reason? No. In game reason? Yes.

your in this game?

Yes, and I know you’re not aligned with the Gatewatch.

correct.

[jotheonah]

I stand by my Swan vote & encourage those who wish to lynch scum to vote there.

Do you have particular insight based on your irl knowledge of him?

In real life reason? No. In game reason? Yes.

your in this game?

Yes, and I know you’re not aligned with the Gatewatch.

correct.

wait what

[jotheonah]

Jimmmm voters, if Jimmmm is town, what does that get us? LaLight voters, same question.

I think shraeye is a better wagon because he has a much richer set of interactions. We learn so much from his lynch either way. I also happen to think he's more likely to flip scum, but that's neither here nor there.

Galzria, all due respect, either make a real case on DatSwan or move your vote somewhere useful. Same goes for gkreig re: Awaclus. We're 9 hours from deadline, time to pick a real wagon.

If we lynch shraeye and shraeye flips town, what does it get us?

A whole lot more information about raerae and faust and ADK and all the other people who have been interacting with and reacting to shraeye since day 1!

[Swowl]

I stand by my Swan vote & encourage those who wish to lynch scum to vote there.

Do you have particular insight based on your irl knowledge of him?

In real life reason? No. In game reason? Yes.

your in this game?

Yes, and I know you’re not aligned with the Gatewatch.

correct.

wait what

he is correct... well at least in this quote.

I am factionless.

While I am actually not Gatewatch aligned, I am also not aligned with Bolos or any other faction.

[faust]

So DatSwan claimed scum? Okay then.

Vote: DatSwan

[EFHW]

I am factionless.

What is your wincon? Why should we let you live?

[jotheonah]

Oh, I just figured out what's happening here. Hmm. Yeah, ok. What EFHW said.

[Swowl]

So DatSwan claimed scum? Okay then.

Vote: DatSwan

did you read what I said like at all?

[Galzria]

So DatSwan claimed scum? Okay then.

Vote: DatSwan

did you read what I said like at all?

Why is what you claimed any different than what a Bolos would claim here?

[faust]

So DatSwan claimed scum? Okay then.

Vote: DatSwan

did you read what I said like at all?

Yes.

[faust]

I'll be out like one hour before deadline.

[Swowl]

I am factionless.

What is your wincon? Why should we let you live?

I am a Survivor, I can win along side either  Gatewatch or Bolos.

[Swowl]

So DatSwan claimed scum? Okay then.

Vote: DatSwan

did you read what I said like at all?

Why is what you claimed any different than what a Bolos would claim here?

I suppose they wouldn't of given your off hand comment as much weight. They probably also would then try to attack you and say you are lying.

I claimed it right away because your lurky non-commitment style of play is either skum!Galz or town!Galz with value. As you used the exact words "Not Gatewatch Aligned" instead of "Skum", I could either ignore it or get into it.

If I ignore it, and you ever flip (assuming you are town) - I get lynched. Getting ahead of it was the only way I could think of that may actually have have a scenario in it where I live.