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[Joseph2302]

4:4 now

I should really look at vote counts. Did I seriously just hammer because I was lazy and just thought this was correct?

It's 7 to lynch, so guess you did

Although you could always be scum trying to fake the derphammer......

[silverspawn]

Vote Count 2.5

Glooble (5): Awaclus, jotheonah, DatSwan, Joseph2302, e
jothenoah (3): Glooble, EFHW, Debatepro

Not Voting (4): Uncleeurope, mcmcsalot, Robz888, A Drowned Kernel

With 12 alive, it takes 7 to lynch. Day 2 ends on September 18, 05:00 forum time.

[2.71828.....]

Ok, that clarifies things.

[2.71828.....]

I think Glooble is the clear choice here. Jotheonah i think the Datswan case is good, and the only evidence against joth circumstancial at best.

[Joseph2302]

Ok, that clarifies things.

Oh, the 6 or 7 votes must have included people with preference to vote Glooble

[Joseph2302]

And as this wasn't actually a derphammer, town points for e for being aware about it. I think scum might derphammer and claim it was an accident, but saying they may have derphammered when they didn't seems less likely

[Robz888]

Vote: Glooble

[Debatepro]

Vote: Glooble

Unannounced  L-1.

Day 2 Summary

Vote#	Post#	---By---	---For---	Notes
D2-1	636	Awaclus	Glooble	NR
D2-2	671	e	Awaclus	NR-Scummy and opportunistic (673)
D2-3	684	ADK	e	NR
D2-4	685	ADK	Glooble	NR
D2-5	687	Joth	Robz	Pointing others on Pubby wagon, lame, Robz scummiest on wagon IMO
D2-6	701	Glooble	ADK	Awaclus, ADK, Robz voted for pubby, mix, and glooble. (701)
D2-7	726	Joseph	Glooble	725 based on debates data, MiX votes for Glooble/Debate must be one of them
D2-8	737	Eddie	Awaclus	Awaclus or Glooble evil, Awaclus has fewer votes
D2-9	790	Glooble	Joth	DUEL: Glooble V Joth
D2-10	791	Awaclus	Glooble	NR
D2-11	795	Joth	Glooble	BC
D2-12	811	Joseph	Joth	NR
D2-13	826	EFHW	Joth	Glooble case reads gambit
D2-14	848	DatSwan	Glooble	Weak case for Town!Joth (847) & Scum!Glooble (849)
D2-15	883	Joseph	Glooble	NR
D2-16	884	Joseph	Joth	NR
D2-17	885	Joseph	Glooble	NR
D2-18	887	Debatepro	Joth	NR - except all the other posts about why joth is the right vote.
D2-19	899	e	Glooble	NR
D2-20	907	Robz	Glooble	Unannounced L1

[A Drowned Kernel]

My head says glooble, my gut says joth. I'll do a reread tonight if no one's hammered

[Glooble]

My head says glooble, my gut says joth. I'll do a reread tonight if no one's hammered

Pro tip: rereads are more fun if you get hammered first.

If joth ends up being town, I’ve learned a valuable lesson about not tunneling him based his read of me, but if joth turns out to be scum you have to learn a valuable lesson about not knocking down the lynch he sets up for you.

[Debatepro]

@Eddie- Did you vote yes or no to the duel?

[Awaclus]

@Eddie- Did you vote yes or no to the duel?

Why is this important to know?

[Debatepro]

@Eddie- Did you vote yes or no to the duel?

Why is this important to know?

Unless he is channeling someone who doesn't share information, it's not like town!eddie to be obscure, unhelpful, or even try a little. Granted, he's a sub. 

[Uncleeurope]

I abstained from voting.

I am kind of in Datswan’s camp in that I don’t really have a strong preference one way or the other and am worried that this flip might influence my read on the other wrongly.

So we will see how this works out, I guess I am mainly curious about the powers but dislike duels.

So I voted yes for the power and no for the duel by not voting.

It makes sense, I promise.

This decision is completely different from voting yes for the duel and no for the power.

[2.71828.....]

^^scum^^

[2.71828.....]

Seriously, what a cop-out

[A Drowned Kernel]

Seriously, what a cop-out

It's so outlandish that I'm nearly certain that Eddie's town

[EFHW]

Are you abstaining from voting now, too?

[Uncleeurope]

Yeah, I’ll vote later.

Willing to hammer either of them at the moment, as mentioned earlier.

[A Drowned Kernel]

Did a sort of skimmy re-read, mostly just reading joth's and glooble's posts

Intent to hammer glooble

[Swowl]

Did a sort of skimmy re-read, mostly just reading joth's and glooble's posts

Intent to hammer glooble

hold up plz. we have time and I have some questions for some pplz.

[Swowl]

#1 - I abstained from voting.

#2 - I am kind of in Datswan’s camp in that I don’t really have a strong preference one way or the other and am worried that this flip might influence my read on the other wrongly.

#3 - So I voted yes for the power and no for the duel by not voting.

#4 - It makes sense, I promise.

This decision is completely different from voting yes for the duel and no for the power.

Yeah, I’ll vote later.

Willing to hammer either of them at the moment, as mentioned earlier.

#1 - Either you thought one was 1 skum, 2 were skum, or none were skum. You not voting lowers the thresh hold of needed yes votes to *potentially* only 5 with 3 skum in the game. So, if you thought there was 1 skum... ok I guess as like an almost trap plus the PR benefits... but you can't follow that up with "I will vote for anyone". If you thought both were skum, then it would check out I suppose... except your lack of effort on the day (and of course claiming the no vote) really is weird there. If you thought both were town it is just dumb.

#2 - No you are not. People are not allowed in this camp that throw out willy nilly "I will vote for anyone" crap. Trust me, I sell the tents. I DO have a preference either way. I made that like abundantly clear in my 2 wall posts. I simply think I am picking between a "skum and a hard place". But when chosen to pick, I am made it pretty cut that I am on Glooble.

#3 - This is not how that works. By not voting you lowered the thresh hold of needed yes votes to make the duel happen. Also, there cannot be a PR without a duel. So, even in a world where you can word that differently... it just doesn't make sense. You need to vote in a fashion that favors the duel in order to favor the PR, and vice versa.

#4 - No. None of it does.

[Swowl]

Seriously, what a cop-out

^^scum^^

If E actually thought this, they would of torn eddie apart. This is not a Town!E response to this situation.

[Swowl]

My head says glooble, my gut says joth. I'll do a reread tonight if no one's hammered

Did a sort of skimmy re-read, mostly just reading joth's and glooble's posts

Intent to hammer glooble

What soothed your gut from the re read?

[Swowl]

wow there is like nothing that has been said today, that is all I have.