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permanoob

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First puzzle of my career!
« on: March 17, 2012, 08:16:59 pm »
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Okay. Which cards would give you good reason to discard down to one when faced with multiple torturers. You do not currently have any curses in hand. I guess there might be a dual victory card that would make sense in this situation but no provinces, duchies, estates or the like.
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Re: First puzzle of my career!
« Reply #1 on: March 17, 2012, 08:41:07 pm »
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The obvious answer is a library and a bunch of crap.
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Re: First puzzle of my career!
« Reply #2 on: March 17, 2012, 08:48:38 pm »
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Least obvious answer is a bishop with 4 vineyards. Even then I suppose you could take the curse.
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Re: First puzzle of my career!
« Reply #3 on: March 17, 2012, 10:09:05 pm »
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Five of the same terminal action. Any of the ones which don't make reference to your current hand will do.
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Re: First puzzle of my career!
« Reply #4 on: March 17, 2012, 10:30:12 pm »
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you played a bunch of Wharfs/Caravans/a Tactician last turn
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Re: First puzzle of my career!
« Reply #5 on: March 17, 2012, 10:32:30 pm »
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You have a Platinum in your hand, there are no +buys, and you're exactly enough points ahead that even if he buys a Province this turn you can still end the game by buying the last Duchy, but if you take any curses you won't be far enough ahead.
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Re: First puzzle of my career!
« Reply #6 on: March 17, 2012, 10:34:12 pm »
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four of the cards are Tunnels (and the last one is either a Menagerie, a Shanty Town, a Library, or a JaoT)

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The curses are the third pile and you're losing. In which case anything is better than taking the curses, I suppose.
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Re: First puzzle of my career!
« Reply #7 on: March 18, 2012, 01:15:48 am »
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library after playing fishing village last turn
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Re: First puzzle of my career!
« Reply #8 on: March 18, 2012, 02:55:27 am »
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yzcz6 has a really good answer. Except why would you buy 5 of the same terminals? In my mind they would be KCs.

There is still one more solution that I was thinking of I guess. Hint: No durations, and all the other cards in your hand are terminal actions and/or treasures. Not library, shanty, menagerie or any card that draws back up to a certain amount in hand.
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Re: First puzzle of my career!
« Reply #9 on: March 18, 2012, 03:38:57 am »
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Possession is always a good candidate for any puzzle. :)
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Re: First puzzle of my career!
« Reply #10 on: March 18, 2012, 04:37:29 am »
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Your hand is 4 or 5 treasure maps and there's 2 empty piles and only 4 golds left and you're behind with no other ways to get rid of the maps?

You have a Golem (technically a terminal action) and 4 coppers or whatever, and cards like menagerie and library in your deck?

Your hand is 4 secret chambers and you're sick of isotropic asking if you want to react?

Your hand is Mandarin and 4 coppers and you'd rather not have one on your next turn?

I went deep and I'm stumped.
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Re: First puzzle of my career!
« Reply #11 on: March 18, 2012, 09:53:23 am »
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yzcz6 has a really good answer. Except why would you buy 5 of the same terminals? In my mind they would be KCs.

There is still one more solution that I was thinking of I guess. Hint: No durations, and all the other cards in your hand are terminal actions and/or treasures. Not library, shanty, menagerie or any card that draws back up to a certain amount in hand.

If those five terminals were ghost ships, the answer would make sense...
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Re: First puzzle of my career!
« Reply #12 on: March 18, 2012, 11:30:00 am »
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Maybe it's just the old Venture trick where one Venture draws 7 and bam, another Province?
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Re: First puzzle of my career!
« Reply #13 on: March 18, 2012, 12:22:14 pm »
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Minion?

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Re: First puzzle of my career!
« Reply #14 on: March 18, 2012, 12:49:48 pm »
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I second the answer I think he is going for is Tunnels
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Re: First puzzle of my career!
« Reply #15 on: March 18, 2012, 02:46:15 pm »
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Your hand is Counting House and 4 coppers? Might as well discard those coppers.
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Re: First puzzle of my career!
« Reply #16 on: March 18, 2012, 05:39:09 pm »
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There is still one more solution that I was thinking of I guess. Hint: No durations, and all the other cards in your hand are terminal actions and/or treasures. Not library, shanty, menagerie or any card that draws back up to a certain amount in hand.

The first dozen that come to mind (I'm reading the above as the card in hand can be any thing that isn't a jack/watchtower/lib/menage):
1. Counting house + copper x4.
2. Adventurer in a venture deck (venture x5 + gold).
3. Scrying pool (I don't know if this violates "certain amount").
4. Outpost (the idea being to get rid of the other dead terminals and try to draw something like menage in the OP turn).
5. Hunting party (I don't know if this violates "certain amount", but adding the first curse to a HP deck really hurts it).
6. Philosopher's stone (dropping 4 cards might push you up to 8 coin so why take the curse?).
7. An overpowered trade route (e.g. on a board with island, great hall, noble, and silk road) as this allows you to hit a province & save your other good cards.
8. Chancellor in chancellor/stash combo. You can buy the estate and your only real goal is hitting the stashes next turn.
9. Scout in a nobles/GH/harem deck/+buy deck.
10. Tribute against an opponents harem/nobles deck.
11. Native village.
12. Golem.


There are just a lot of decks that are reliable enough where the curse is much more painful than losing cards. Even without a way to chain back up, I can see a number of truly dead terminals that could benefit from discarding.
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Re: First puzzle of my career!
« Reply #17 on: March 18, 2012, 06:06:39 pm »
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Card you're playing or card he's playing? If I knew I was going to get possessed I'd discard down to 0.
Library, watchtower, or JoT in a mostly money deck would definitely be worth it too.
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Re: First puzzle of my career!
« Reply #18 on: March 18, 2012, 06:49:53 pm »
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Your hand is Counting House and 4 coppers? Might as well discard those coppers.

Well there really is no right answer but this was what I had in mind. Thanks for playing everyone!
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Re: First puzzle of my career!
« Reply #19 on: March 19, 2012, 01:35:04 pm »
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My first thought was to have Tactician and four blah cards. They could all be Coppers, since a mega-turn would be better than $4. If you want to be really pathetic, those four cards could be Horn of Plenty.

I saw "no duration," but I thought that was in reference to the previous turn. If it's a blanket rule, then this wouldn't work.
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Re: First puzzle of my career!
« Reply #20 on: March 19, 2012, 01:38:30 pm »
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Tactician doesn't work anyway because you have to discard something to it for it to have any duration effect.
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Re: First puzzle of my career!
« Reply #21 on: March 19, 2012, 02:03:11 pm »
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Tactician doesn't work anyway because you have to discard something to it for it to have any duration effect.

Crap, you're right. I wondered why such an "obvious" solution hadn't shown up before now.

I need to play more games so I can actually memorize the cards.
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