MiX states his opinion, everyone in the world pounces on him. Am I not supposed to say things? But this provided a lot of reactions, so I'm happy.
Ha. I have to admit I didn't look for whatever post you where refering to, I just found a good non-Robz that I remembered (because I wrote it). Well that's awkward.
I haven't even read the rest of this post,
Vote: MiX
blatantly lying to influence town is the literal definition of scum.
Oh come on! I wasn't intentionally lying, I saw something weird and I went to look for an explanation, didn't look into it too much since I assumed you knew what you were replying to and it felt null. This is just...a weird reason to vote. But I guess what you say next's supposed to justify it?
Your reason to vote ash was discredited by mcmc a few posts later
I don't see why you would have to be honest with your reason to vote for people if you're scum, thus I see no reason to believe if a vote was OMGUS or not based on what you say. Right? Am I being confusing here? Not that you gain anything by lying, but you're always lying when voting as scum anyway and this is no different.
As for Jimmmmmm, why did you sell your vote to faust? Why not e, me, shraeye, I don't know, anyone else? And did you simply sheep his case or did you see anything else that was scummy? That's the answer I wanted, "why did you vote for Jimmmmm" is a good catch-all question for that, I think.
Okay, actually read the whole thing, I'll address the three bolded points and then I'm all sorts of done with this. If anybody else wants to engage, I'd be happy to talk.
1) Discredited?? My OPINION on scummy behavior isn't any less valid than his. Facts can be discredited but opinions are just feelings with a different name and you don't get to tell somebody their feelings aren't valid. mcmc isn't right because he believes it isn't scummy and I'm not right because I do, we just feel differently about the subject. I still see ash's reasons for voting for me as scummy but mcmc and faust (two players I respect and who have significant game experience, and one who's conf!town) don't so I am willing to accept that it may not be as scummy as it looks to me. I'm willing to recognize that somebody else's feelings are valid.
2) My problem isn't with you disbelieving me when I say it wasn't OMGUS (this is Mafia, disbelief is to be expected, I get it), it's with you TELLING me that my stated reason for voting wasn't my stated reason for voting. It's you telling me you know more about what I was thinking and how I feel than I do. Because you don't. Flat out. You can say, "I don't believe you," but you never get to fucking tell me, "No, it was X because I say so."
3) Nobody else made an offer. I sold to literally the only person bidding.
1) That was probably bad wording, I meant that the reason for your vote was, well, challenged by mcmc and you didn't respond to it. Not a "no, you're wrong" or "hmm, but he's still scummy because X" or...well, something. Let's see what happened:
So how does that makes me an informative lynch for town? You're proposing a lynch of somebody who's few interactions are with somebody you have a townread on. That seems exceedingly unhelpful to town.
Vote: ash
He didn’t say you were an informative lynch he said you are a good one. I agree your lynch isn’t super informative
I don't get it. The only good lynch is an informative lynch, otherwise you're just killing to kill, what's the point?
A scum lynch is the best lynch regardless of how informative it is.
After this post, you didn't talk about ash again, or at least you didn't mention this again. However, you later implied that you had lost (or diminished) your scumread on ash. Aaaaand you just said it now. Okay, that makes sense.
2) I'm not telling YOU, I'm saying what I think it was. But you're right in that there's no reason for me to say WHY you did if I believe you're scum, because that would, by itself, be the reason (you're scum and you want to vote somewhere). So, okay, point taken. I guess I can rephrase that: I didn't agree with the reason you voted ash. Is that scummy? Guess not...
3) So this is essencially consistent with the lack of scumreads you had all D1, you simply latched onto a case that a (very influencial) player made because you liked it. Uh, yeah, it's just consistent, nothing scummy here...
So at this point I think one of the reasons I was scumreading raerae (lack of scumreads and weird reasons to vote) is...null-to-towny, according to her meta. Anyone else agree with this? It's definitely not as scummy as I initially thought, since she admitted she had basically no reads in D1 already...
Unvote, but there's one tricky question I want you to answer:
Anyway, she spends D1 interacting with shraeye, me and a little bit of faust. Or at least most of what she said was to or about one of these 3 players...In M121 she also did that, but much, much less (she still interacted more with me and shraeye but more with other players, relatively). So...@raerae, was this intentional?
Not sure how you would answer this, which is why I'm asking.
Next: all the things non-raerae that happened while I was gone.
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