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Re: RMM52: Deep Space Nine Mafia Redux (Day 1)
« Reply #750 on: March 01, 2019, 03:05:13 pm »

That doesn't follow. Town can converge on a good wagon for disparate reasons. Why do you care what people think of robz if they aren't voting him? Do you think shraeye or I should get off the wagon? We disagree with each other.
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Re: RMM52: Deep Space Nine Mafia Redux (Day 1)
« Reply #751 on: March 01, 2019, 03:05:27 pm »

Nah, just joking.

vote: LaLight
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Re: RMM52: Deep Space Nine Mafia Redux (Day 1)
« Reply #752 on: March 01, 2019, 03:05:59 pm »

I am more interested in e's town case on LL.

What this gentleman said.

First things first...if we are to lynch LaLight and actually getting a scum flip, we need to become one. This means uniting in reads, which here means dismantling e's scumread on Robz, or at least put it to null where it belongs...

We donít have to eliminate all scumreads but one to vote from someone, e can find people scummy and vote for other scummy people. I donít need to know why e finds Robz scummy if they will vote for LL.

I just want to know why LL is towny so I can move my vote as needed.
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Re: RMM52: Deep Space Nine Mafia Redux (Day 1)
« Reply #753 on: March 01, 2019, 03:07:53 pm »

I am more interested in e's town case on LL.

What this gentleman said.

First things first...if we are to lynch LaLight and actually getting a scum flip, we need to become one. This means uniting in reads, which here means dismantling e's scumread on Robz, or at least put it to null where it belongs...

you are that confident LaLight is scum?

No, but the only way LL flips scum is if we all stand together. Otherwise scum will say "Naaaaah let's no lynch, that's fun", shraeye then moves there and suddently we lose the wagon.

That doesn't follow. Town can converge on a good wagon for disparate reasons. Why do you care what people think of robz if they aren't voting him? Do you think shraeye or I should get off the wagon? We disagree with each other.

Put another way, MiX, why do you care?

Is this another one of your cryptic questions? If I want LL to flip, I want e to move here; I believe the best way to do so is to dismantle his scumread on Robz first, then he'll accept other options. Maybe I'm wrong? I think doing things by steps is easier.

I am more interested in e's town case on LL.

What this gentleman said.

First things first...if we are to lynch LaLight and actually getting a scum flip, we need to become one. This means uniting in reads, which here means dismantling e's scumread on Robz, or at least put it to null where it belongs...

We donít have to eliminate all scumreads but one to vote from someone, e can find people scummy and vote for other scummy people. I donít need to know why e finds Robz scummy if they will vote for LL.

I just want to know why LL is towny so I can move my vote as needed.

Yes, but I want him to find LL scummier than Robz, so he votes here. Kinda sounds like manipulation when I say it outloud, but it's a relative thing: the more e thinks Robz is scum, the less he would vote for LL, right?
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Re: RMM52: Deep Space Nine Mafia Redux (Day 1)
« Reply #754 on: March 01, 2019, 03:10:26 pm »

Not if Robz is scum.

Not necessarily anyway.
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Re: RMM52: Deep Space Nine Mafia Redux (Day 1)
« Reply #755 on: March 01, 2019, 03:12:55 pm »

I will literally vote for anyone as deadline approaches to get a lynch through
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Re: RMM52: Deep Space Nine Mafia Redux (Day 1)
« Reply #756 on: March 01, 2019, 03:25:01 pm »

I'm approximately 70 posts behind in terms of reading, and I'm at a work party tonight. To avoid being completely useless, here's the fastest thing I can do:

No interest in lynching (townreads, people I think are not good D1 lynches, newbie)
3. LaLight
7. WestCoastDidds
8. SpaceAnemone
9. Shraeye
11. faust
12. ashersky
17. raerae
18. chickenwarlord

Little interest in lynching (feeling meh on, but happy about the fact they're posting stuff)
5. mcmcsalot
2. UmbrageOfSnow

Happy to go along with a lynch/have no opinion on (scumreads up to null people I don't have strong feelings about)
1. Jimmmmm
4. DatSwan
6. Glooble
10. MiX
13. 2.71828.....
14. Robz888
15. Awaclus
16. Uncleeurope

Things I will try to do before deadline:
1) Re-read everyone on the bottom list there.
2) Get the vote counter set up so I can try to post useful vote counts. The deadline is 1pm my time, which is totally civilised for me, so I should be here from 2-3 hours beforehand.
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Re: RMM52: Deep Space Nine Mafia Redux (Day 1)
« Reply #757 on: March 01, 2019, 03:28:21 pm »

@faust, do you have anything else on jimmmmmm other than the claim question/reason you originally voted?
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Re: RMM52: Deep Space Nine Mafia Redux (Day 1)
« Reply #758 on: March 01, 2019, 03:44:32 pm »

I will literally vote for anyone as deadline approaches to get a lynch through

same, although scum is preferable (duh)
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Re: RMM52: Deep Space Nine Mafia Redux (Day 1)
« Reply #759 on: March 01, 2019, 03:46:24 pm »

Hi, so I fully admit I skimmed- lots of content since this morning and I donít have a lot of time. I like MiXís case on LaLight. I think itís similar to the Jimmmmm wagon (not a lot of content and what there is fees manufactured for the sake of making content.) Since it seems to have a lot more traction And Im not going to have time to properly catch up before the deadline, Iím happy to move my vote to LaLight.

vote: LaLight

Sorry for disappearing for the final day of the day, but it really couldnít be helped.

I will be in a few hours before the deadline (provided we donít lynch before then.) If Iím on again before that, Iíll probab be three sheets to the wind.
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Re: RMM52: Deep Space Nine Mafia Redux (Day 1)
« Reply #760 on: March 01, 2019, 03:52:48 pm »

I disagree with a decent amount of Spaceís list there. Donít know what that means, but I am interested in what changes (if anything) after 70 pages of reading.

I would probably prefer people catch up before worrying about votes, but that might just be me.

Also it would be bad to lynch me, probably.
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Re: RMM52: Deep Space Nine Mafia Redux (Day 1)
« Reply #761 on: March 01, 2019, 03:53:26 pm »

This is probably right...

Vote count 1. Didds

2.71828..... (3): LaLight, Robz888, Awaclus
shraeye (1): Jimmmmm
MiX (1): SpaceAnemone
chickenwarlord (1): DatSwan
Jimmmmm (1): faust
Awaclus (1): ashersky
Robz888 (1): 2.71828.....
ashersky (1): raerae
raerae (2): ashersky, mcmcsalot
LaLight (6): Uncleeurope, MiX, WestCoastDidds, Umbrage, Shraeye, Glooble

No Lynch (1): chickenwarlord
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Re: RMM52: Deep Space Nine Mafia Redux (Day 1)
« Reply #762 on: March 01, 2019, 04:17:11 pm »

@faust, do you have anything else on jimmmmmm other than the claim question/reason you originally voted?
I did not like the waz he responded to the post by basically saying "look other people do it too" and implicitly accusing me of having ulterior motives without voting for me.
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Re: RMM52: Deep Space Nine Mafia Redux (Day 1)
« Reply #763 on: March 01, 2019, 04:22:33 pm »

@faust, do you have anything else on jimmmmmm other than the claim question/reason you originally voted?
I did not like the waz he responded to the post by basically saying "look other people do it too" and implicitly accusing me of having ulterior motives without voting for me.

Yeah, I noticed that, too. His defense was super weak.
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Re: RMM52: Deep Space Nine Mafia Redux (Day 1)
« Reply #764 on: March 01, 2019, 04:22:37 pm »

The Jimmmmmmmmmmmmmm wagon seems dumb, and I'm only really convinced Awaclus is reading the game of the people on it. Seems very lazy.
You don't think I'm reading the game? Was Awaclus ever voting for Jimmmmm? I am very confused.

Also the LaLight wagon is lazier than Jimmmmm. And LaLight is not around on the weekends, so it's likely that he won't even be able to address it.
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Re: RMM52: Deep Space Nine Mafia Redux (Day 1)
« Reply #765 on: March 01, 2019, 04:27:11 pm »

We should at least have some sort of counterwagon if at all possible. The many single votes don't help (yes I know, I'm one of them, but I don't want to go to e and that's like the only other option right now).
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Re: RMM52: Deep Space Nine Mafia Redux (Day 1)
« Reply #766 on: March 01, 2019, 04:30:12 pm »

We should at least have some sort of counterwagon if at all possible. The many single votes don't help (yes I know, I'm one of them, but I don't want to go to e and that's like the only other option right now).

Robz is an option
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Re: RMM52: Deep Space Nine Mafia Redux (Day 1)
« Reply #767 on: March 01, 2019, 04:32:37 pm »

The Jimmmmmmmmmmmmmm wagon seems dumb, and I'm only really convinced Awaclus is reading the game of the people on it. Seems very lazy.
You don't think I'm reading the game? Was Awaclus ever voting for Jimmmmm? I am very confused.

Also the LaLight wagon is lazier than Jimmmmm. And LaLight is not around on the weekends, so it's likely that he won't even be able to address it.

Ah, you're right...damn, I forgot about weekend thing. But why is it lazy? It has the best case of everyone around here...unless the Jimmmm case is better? I don't think it is...

I would swap to Jimmmmm if necessary but I think we need EVERYONE on LL, that's really the only way this is happening.

PPE 2?; I guess also Robz? I don't get the Robz part...
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Re: RMM52: Deep Space Nine Mafia Redux (Day 1)
« Reply #768 on: March 01, 2019, 04:33:20 pm »

We should at least have some sort of counterwagon if at all possible. The many single votes don't help (yes I know, I'm one of them, but I don't want to go to e and that's like the only other option right now).

Agree... and I am concerned that lots of the single vote folks are not generally around or have been active.

I just saw that there is a mistake in the VC, Ashersky is listed twice.
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Re: RMM52: Deep Space Nine Mafia Redux (Day 1)
« Reply #769 on: March 01, 2019, 04:37:43 pm »

What we need is the single voters to consolidate....not the LL people to just switch, is that right?
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Re: RMM52: Deep Space Nine Mafia Redux (Day 1)
« Reply #770 on: March 01, 2019, 04:43:10 pm »

What we need is the single voters to consolidate....not the LL people to just switch, is that right?

both need to happen actually
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Re: RMM52: Deep Space Nine Mafia Redux (Day 1)
« Reply #771 on: March 01, 2019, 04:48:49 pm »

Why are we moving away from LL? How is Jimmmmmm or Robz a better lynch? I don't get it.

Can someone explain?
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Re: RMM52: Deep Space Nine Mafia Redux (Day 1)
« Reply #772 on: March 01, 2019, 04:51:44 pm »

I could Vote: Jimmm if that helps. I would prefer LL to die but I would prefer second place to also be someone I am fine with killing, and Jimmm is definitely one of those people.

Also, what makes the LL wagon lazy?

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Re: RMM52: Deep Space Nine Mafia Redux (Day 1)
« Reply #773 on: March 01, 2019, 04:54:58 pm »

@faust, do you have anything else on jimmmmmm other than the claim question/reason you originally voted?
I did not like the waz he responded to the post by basically saying "look other people do it too" and implicitly accusing me of having ulterior motives without voting for me.

Sold.

Vote: Jimmmmmm

The Jimmmmmmmmmmmmmm wagon seems dumb, and I'm only really convinced Awaclus is reading the game of the people on it. Seems very lazy.
You don't think I'm reading the game? Was Awaclus ever voting for Jimmmmm? I am very confused.

Also the LaLight wagon is lazier than Jimmmmm. And LaLight is not around on the weekends, so it's likely that he won't even be able to address it.

Ah, you're right...damn, I forgot about weekend thing. But why is it lazy? It has the best case of everyone around here...unless the Jimmmm case is better? I don't think it is...

I would swap to Jimmmmm if necessary but I think we need EVERYONE on LL, that's really the only way this is happening.

PPE 2?; I guess also Robz? I don't get the Robz part...

"Best" is subjective, remember that.  Is there anybody you WON'T vote for?
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Re: RMM52: Deep Space Nine Mafia Redux (Day 1)
« Reply #774 on: March 01, 2019, 04:56:16 pm »

The Jimmmmmmmmmmmmmm wagon seems dumb, and I'm only really convinced Awaclus is reading the game of the people on it. Seems very lazy.
You don't think I'm reading the game? Was Awaclus ever voting for Jimmmmm? I am very confused.

Also the LaLight wagon is lazier than Jimmmmm. And LaLight is not around on the weekends, so it's likely that he won't even be able to address it.

To make my previous post have context, why does the LL wagon not make sense to you? I was under the assumption that you could just as easily be voting LL?
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