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[faust]

2 hours to hammer.

[silverspawn]

Now I know what UoS means wrt votes in the middle of text being easier to miss. Replace 'vote' with 'intent to hammer'

So, everyone who is not on ariship yet (debate, mail-mi) should consider going on there. Everyone who is on the datswan wagon should consider switching.

Based on what?

based on ari having the better case on him

[shraeye]

So, everyone who is not on ariship yet (debate, mail-mi) should consider going on there. Everyone who is on the datswan wagon should consider switching.

There's no need to vote for ari unless you think Ari is scum (pretty sure he's not).  Also, I think anybody following this post would make an oopsy-hammer that you failed to pull off earlier.  Sooooo, still scummy as heck.

[faust]

Where is ari anyway? I thought he said he has time for this today.

[EFHW]

Now I know what UoS means wrt votes in the middle of text being easier to miss. Replace 'vote' with 'intent to hammer'

So, everyone who is not on ariship yet (debate, mail-mi) should consider going on there. Everyone who is on the datswan wagon should consider switching.

Based on what?

based on ari having the better case on him

I haven't heard any case on ari since he was described as displaying fake emotionality. Is that still the heart of your case?

[shraeye]

ArisHipShape emotion does not read fake to me.  Nopity nope nope.

[shraeye]

So DebatePro, haven't seen you around too much since the LaLight/shraeye summary.  What are your thoughts on the recent occurrences?

My Day2 updates?  the great mail-mi debate?  EFHW's info?  votes on DatSwan?

Weird for you to pop in and worry only about what Joseph was saying about you.

I had to change my vote because you said we can't vote for Mail-mi. My initial vote there was a pressure him to get into the game kind of vote, then faust came in and made a case, so I left my vote there, until you said thou shall not vote for MM. There was a vote count request by EFHW and i didn't want to be on mail-me in that vote. If my count was right and i voted for DS, that would have been the hammer. So I also have to announce my intent to hammer and while that is the way I am leaning between ARI and DS... im gun-shy. 

Hypothetical, I hammer and DS is town, how easy is it for scum to make a case against me. I would have voted for MiX and been the hammer on DS. That seems like a bad position for a newb.me to be in when some people are doubting my towniness. If you want me to prove my towniness and the only way to do that is to hammer DS, i'll do it.

Joseph was also on your list of suspects, i found his analysis of me to be narrowed on my first post in day 2, despite what i think was a pretty well thought out and researched defense of my read on rae (#1132), who you've also pegged as town. Some might argue your explicate inclusion of rae on your team happened after that post.

Ari - he's getting a "my daughter who is his age could have made the the same plays" pass for day 1 and 2 sans the "kill yourself comment"

EFHW - seems like a legit town claim, not sure how we know for sure unless DS is lynched (see above why i'm hesitant).

As far as my play, i kind of took my lead from you with your questions to players about there reads on certain players to flush out info and get them on the record, for example:
SS - what are your reads besides debatepro and ari. Don't think we've seen an answer. #1285
Joseph - why did you vote for debate & what do you think about mail-mi, ari, debate, and ss. #1259
Joseph - #1169 which i think is some pretty deft analysis on why joseph's story should be considered suspect.



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This is great info, definitely helps me see a town-DebatePro narrative

[shraeye]

Hypothetical, I hammer and DS is town, how easy is it for scum to make a case against me. I would have voted for MiX and been the hammer on DS. That seems like a bad position for a newb.me to be in when some people are doubting my towniness. If you want me to prove my towniness and the only way to do that is to hammer DS, i'll do it.

Straight VoteCountAnalysis like this always seems shortsighted and more or less lazy. I'm all about the narrative.  Did your vote line up with your analysis? Was it derpy ( a la silver's)?  Was it pure sheeping?  Does that fit your character? 

No need to do something unusual to "prove towniness", more posts about thoughts like the one of yours that I just quoted are what helps honest townies check narratives against one another.

[Uncleeurope]

Now I know what UoS means wrt votes in the middle of text being easier to miss. Replace 'vote' with 'intent to hammer'

So, everyone who is not on ariship yet (debate, mail-mi) should consider going on there. Everyone who is on the datswan wagon should consider switching.

Based on what?

based on ari having the better case on him

I haven't heard any case on ari since he was described as displaying fake emotionality. Is that still the heart of your case?

No, his abandonment of all wagons day one was bad, and him attempting to push MiXes reads on the rest of us for all of day 2 is also less than optimal (I had no idea it was possible for someone to buddy a dead person). I also found him to be wishy washy on logic early.

And yes, he seems extremely disingenuous.

Silver made a case on him early day 2 that may have mentioned more.

That being said I am a bit bummed that Silver had to go and derp on all of everything over the last chunk of activity, that makes me suspect that—(careful, Eddie, shade has to be in a longer format or else it makes you look bad) shush, you. Makes me suspect that he might be less genuine. Though if I were scum, I would assume I would pay more attention to votes than I am now, but that might not be the case.

For those of you with more experience in this area, do you pay more or less attention to votes as either side?

I think I will lean scummy over there for now, anti-town behavior is anti-town behavior.

That makes the people I would have preferred to lynch today Arishipshape, mail-mi, joseph, and silver.

Not that it matters.

[Swowl]

If we do not hear from DatSwan, I will hammer 2 hours before the deadline.

i am here.

I am a 2-shot Cop.

Night 1 I ran my VCA that i ended up sharing today. It brought me to my EFHW conclusion, so i targeted EFHW. I never received a result, so speculate on that as you will.

I’ll be here until DL.

[faust]

Cool. Vote: DatSwan

[Swowl]

Welp bummer I’m town.

Good luck all.

[Swowl]

Faust jammer 45 minutes ahead of inteades after a cop claim could be skummy. Weird at the minimum.

[silverspawn]

So, everyone who is not on ariship yet (debate, mail-mi) should consider going on there. Everyone who is on the datswan wagon should consider switching.

There's no need to vote for ari unless you think Ari is scum (pretty sure he's not).  Also, I think anybody following this post would make an oopsy-hammer that you failed to pull off earlier.  Sooooo, still scummy as heck.

Of course I think ari is scum. I also have to say that I am fairly annoyed by you right now, especially given that you completely ignored answering the relevant question of why being sloppy should be alignment indicative. Let me just provide the answer for you: it's not. It is a fairly independent property and as a vet you should know better than to put everything that's not good play into the scummy category.

Furthermore, mail-mi is not the only one who's allowed to be busy with university stuff. I'm doing a 39 LP semester and am trying to get perfect grades in everything. This game is not number one, two, three, four, or five on my list of priorities. But I guess he gets a town pass for no reason you can or want to share and I don't.

DatSwan has claimed can we lynch ari now?

PPE What the fuck?

[faust]

Faust jammer 45 minutes ahead of inteades after a cop claim could be skummy. Weird at the minimum.

I said I will hammer then if you don't show up. You did show up.

[silverspawn]

Faust jammer 45 minutes ahead of inteades after a cop claim could be skummy. Weird at the minimum.

That's not "could be scummy" that's auto lynch material. You don't hammer a CLAIMED COP when there is an alternative lynch available and no-one has even had the chance to unvote.

[Swowl]

You guys are in a really rough spot. I would look into claimsville tomorrow

[silverspawn]

faust-ariship-mailmi. Calling the team right now.

[faust]

39 LP semester

The acronym you are looking for is ECTS.

[Swowl]

was kinda baiting the quick hammer - surprised it came from where it did tho

[faust]

Faust jammer 45 minutes ahead of inteades after a cop claim could be skummy. Weird at the minimum.

That's not "could be scummy" that's auto lynch material. You don't hammer a CLAIMED COP when there is an alternative lynch available and no-one has even had the chance to unvote.

I hammered so noone would be stupid and unvote yes. That claim was the scummiest thing that ever happened.

[faust]

was kinda baiting the quick hammer - surprised it came from where it did tho

Right, a 2-shot Cop with 1 shot left is baiting a quickhammer 

[silverspawn]

was kinda baiting the quick hammer - surprised it came from where it did tho

Right, a 2-shot Cop with 1 shot left is baiting a quickhammer 

Well despite how anti town it is to hammer a claimed cop, I have to admit that this sounds unlikely.

[Swowl]

was kinda baiting the quick hammer - surprised it came from where it did tho

Right, a 2-shot Cop with 1 shot left is baiting a quickhammer 

You are arguing with a conf!town about my approach man. Lol there is no “i might be skum” here anymore. If i say i did it for a reason, that’s the reason i did it.

[faust]

was kinda baiting the quick hammer - surprised it came from where it did tho

Right, a 2-shot Cop with 1 shot left is baiting a quickhammer 

You are arguing with a conf!town about my approach man. Lol there is no “i might be skum” here anymore. If i say i did it for a reason, that’s the reason i did it.

Have you flipped? I didn't think so. You are just playing this out to prevent further discussion here. Which is of course the smart move for scum here because the mods have announced limited availability and it might be a long twilight.